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tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

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Post by amohsen » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:12 am

How can someone take a decision on such a short notice?? .. I was preparing the documents in order to apply on the 27th and my new passport did not come in yet .. it is so unfair !!!
.. is there any way we can ask them to extend till the end of the year ??

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Re: tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

Post by guaravd » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:32 am

ajitpahuja wrote:Guys,

This is bullshit................I had requested for an appointment on 23rd but they gave me for 29th. I have all the papers ready.

I am planning to barge in tomorrow morning at the earliest. Just wanted to know a few questions.

How does the system work. How long will it take me if I don't have an appointment.

Which centre in mumbai is Less Crowded. North Mumbai or South Mumbai.

Do they accept credit cards.

Do I need to take the stuff in Cash. Demand draft is not possible now at least.

Please advice ASAP.

Thanks.

Dont worry...........You can directly walkin as well. I suggest you go to VFS which is in Grant Road as it will be less corwded. The only difference between walk-in and appointment is that one without the appointment will have to wait for a longer time for the process to be completed....so HURRY UP!!!
etrade wrote:tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

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Re: tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

Post by durgaprasad » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:35 am

Some one explain this...


When the temporary cap itself is deemed unlawful, how can they close on the below reason.

*****This is to ensure that we do not exceed the limit set by the government for issued Tier 1 (General) applications between 19 July 2010 and April 2011*****


I was about to apply tomorrow, but got shattered by the decision

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Post by amohsen » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:45 am

whom can we contact to ask of an extension?

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Re: tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

Post by wunder » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:00 am

durgaprasad wrote:When the temporary cap itself is deemed unlawful, how can they close on the below reason.
The cap itself was not deemed unlawful, only the way it was introduced was declared unlawful.

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Re: tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

Post by mulderpf » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:08 am

wunder wrote:
durgaprasad wrote:When the temporary cap itself is deemed unlawful, how can they close on the below reason.
The cap itself was not deemed unlawful, only the way it was introduced was declared unlawful.
Further to this, my understanding is as follows:

Because of the way the cap was introduced, the cap was unlawful. They did not re-introduce the cap for Tier 1, but instead closed it because it would exceed the limit that government had set. They could have closed it because Damian Green felt like it too - the fact is that they have legally closed it this time - the reason is not what is of importance.

In fact, I do believe that based on this, if they were to exceed the actual limit (which I doubt they will because the stats they based it on was a bit skewed), they would have to process regardless.

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Re: tier 1 general closeure for oversease from 23 dec 2010

Post by durgaprasad » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:43 am

does any see any change of re-opening

atleast for one day... :( :( :(

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Post by adityaisukapalli » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:46 am

sushdmehta wrote: This statement refers to new applicants whose applications to switch to Tier 1 may remain undecided when Tier 1 (General) closes permanently on 05-Apr-11. And I believe so because:
I agree with Sushdmehta. The Transitional arrangements will be for Tier-1 General Initial Inside UK applicants whose applications are not decided by 5th April 2011.

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Post by bradm110 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:25 pm

so if they haven't met the cap they set earlier in the year how can they just close off any more applications with about a days notice... surely there is some sort of avenue for appeal, these guys are constantly moving the goal posts on us... and we're carrying this country...! (kind of)

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Post by *FC* » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:57 pm

It had to happen sometime in the future, based on the sentiment of govt, but the short notice surprises me !

FC

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:59 pm

Since the cap was deemed unlawful, the only way government could keep the number of Tier 1 (General) migrants from overseas in line with those announced at the time of introducing the cap in July (5100) was by closing the scheme altogether.
Written ministerial statement wrote:We should not continue to accept applications under the existing route if they cannot be granted once the current interim limit is reached. We expect, taking into account current trends in applications and refusal rates, the interim limit to be reached imminently. The Statement of Changes to the Immigration Rules therefore removes existing provision for the granting of entry clearance in the Tier 1 (General) category.
Just an alternate "lawful" way to achieve what they had hoped to achieve through interim cap (which was deemed unlawful on a technicality).


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Does this affects Tier 1 General Dependants?

Post by il_breeze » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:20 pm

Hi Experts,

Is it possible to apply for a NEW Tier 1 General Dependant visa from UK?

Thanks

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:34 pm

The closure has no affect on dependant applications made by dependants of existing Tier 1 (General) migrants.

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Re: Does this affects Tier 1 General Dependants?

Post by gregshukla » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:34 pm

il_breeze wrote:Hi Experts,

Is it possible to apply for a NEW Tier 1 General Dependant visa from UK?

Thanks
Only if current category in UK is *partner or child of*

* an innovator;
* a participant in the Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland Scheme;
* a participant in the International Graduates Scheme (or the previous Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme);
* a postgraduate doctor or dentist,
* a student;
* a student nurse;
* a student re-sitting an examination;
* a student writing up a thesis; or
* a work permit holder.


http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workin ... dantroute/

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Post by rajaram20 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:55 pm

I do not agree with sushdmehta. There is no indication of "some" in Damien Green's statement. This is another interpretation of how individual see it. Need to wait until all the details are announced.

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Re: Does this affects Tier 1 General Dependants?

Post by mulderpf » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:09 pm

gregshukla wrote:
il_breeze wrote:Hi Experts,

Is it possible to apply for a NEW Tier 1 General Dependant visa from UK?

Thanks
Only if current category in UK is *partner or child of*

* an innovator;
* a participant in the Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland Scheme;
* a participant in the International Graduates Scheme (or the previous Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme);
* a postgraduate doctor or dentist,
* a student;
* a student nurse;
* a student re-sitting an examination;
* a student writing up a thesis; or
* a work permit holder.


http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workin ... dantroute/
The question asked is to apply for a NEW application for dependent route and you quote something from SWITCHING into the dependent route. That is not a correct quote.

AFAIK new applicants into the Tier 1 dependent route will not be affected and application can take place as per usual.

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:23 pm

rajaram20 wrote: Need to wait until all the details are announced.
I second that, with all the emphasis I can muster!


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Post by MattDell » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:46 pm

This is terrible news and a terrible way of announcing it. Only giving ONE DAYS NOTICE??


I'm glad I got my application in a few weeks ago, but I cannot even imagine how terrible this is for a lot of you guys here!


What happens if my application is denied at this point? I'm basically screwed?

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:50 pm

MattDell wrote:What happens if my application is denied at this point? I'm basically screwed?
Assuming a refusal:

If you believe the refusal is due to a mistake at caseworker end, then you may apply for administrative review. If AR is also refused or the initial refusal itself was for valid reasons, then yes, you are (as you said) "screwed".


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Re: Does this affects Tier 1 General Dependants?

Post by gregshukla » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:58 pm

mulderpf wrote:
gregshukla wrote:
il_breeze wrote:Hi Experts,

Is it possible to apply for a NEW Tier 1 General Dependant visa from UK?

Thanks
Only if current category in UK is *partner or child of*

* an innovator;
* a participant in the Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland Scheme;
* a participant in the International Graduates Scheme (or the previous Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme);
* a postgraduate doctor or dentist,
* a student;
* a student nurse;
* a student re-sitting an examination;
* a student writing up a thesis; or
* a work permit holder.


http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workin ... dantroute/
The question asked is to apply for a NEW application for dependent route and you quote something from SWITCHING into the dependent route. That is not a correct quote.

AFAIK new applicants into the Tier 1 dependent route will not be affected and application can take place as per usual.
Hi mulderpf,

il_breeze post says new application for dependent *from UK*. So I am assuming the dependent is already in UK under some other category. Hence I quoted the switching rules. Do you think this is an incorrect quote?

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Re: Does this affects Tier 1 General Dependants?

Post by mulderpf » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:00 am

My bad, I just read what I wanted to read!!!
gregshukla wrote:
mulderpf wrote:
gregshukla wrote:
il_breeze wrote:Hi Experts,

Is it possible to apply for a NEW Tier 1 General Dependant visa from UK?

Thanks
Only if current category in UK is *partner or child of*

* an innovator;
* a participant in the Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland Scheme;
* a participant in the International Graduates Scheme (or the previous Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme);
* a postgraduate doctor or dentist,
* a student;
* a student nurse;
* a student re-sitting an examination;
* a student writing up a thesis; or
* a work permit holder.


http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workin ... dantroute/
The question asked is to apply for a NEW application for dependent route and you quote something from SWITCHING into the dependent route. That is not a correct quote.

AFAIK new applicants into the Tier 1 dependent route will not be affected and application can take place as per usual.
Hi mulderpf,

il_breeze post says new application for dependent *from UK*. So I am assuming the dependent is already in UK under some other category. Hence I quoted the switching rules. Do you think this is an incorrect quote?

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T1(G)- I applied on 22-December via online. am I elgible ??

Post by bsgupta9 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:56 am

I applied on 22-Dec via online and the system is given for inperson documents on 8th jan. I am confused with this. Still can we submit our docs in india on 8th Jan.

Pls carify ?

Thanks
Gupta
Blore.

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Re: T1(G)- I applied on 22-December via online. am I elgible

Post by mulderpf » Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:02 am

bsgupta9 wrote:I applied on 22-Dec via online and the system is given for inperson documents on 8th jan. I am confused with this. Still can we submit our docs in india on 8th Jan.

Pls carify ?

Thanks
Gupta
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Have you paid yet?

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Re: T1(G)- I applied on 22-December via online. am I elgible

Post by BDUTT » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:02 am

bsgupta9 wrote:I applied on 22-Dec via online and the system is given for inperson documents on 8th jan. I am confused with this. Still can we submit our docs in india on 8th Jan.

Pls carify ?

Thanks
Gupta
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Yes you will be OK because you have already applied before 23rd Dec.

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Post by jad152 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:52 pm

The UK dream is all over!! should we be looking to Canada now? Canada is the second best choice.

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