Updates on Zambrano applications

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:56 am

thanks Babz for sharing

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:09 pm

i have also been refused pple. my lawyer told me today

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:19 pm

Seriously? Don't know what to say again.
Do you have a right of appeal? What was/were reasons for refusal?

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:22 pm

yes. 10 working day. what is going on with home office

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:25 pm

what should i do? a live hearing or just a normal appeal. i need help with this guys

Babz · Post by **Babz** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:57 pm

kiss300 wrote:i have also been refused pple. my lawyer told me today

Sorry to hear that.What were the reasons?

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:37 pm

i havent had the letter yet. will have it tomorrow and will update you about everything. but for some funny reason i am so relax and not really bothered.
How long does it that to appeal?

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:45 pm

Kiss300
I can understand why you feel relaxed now. The waiting itself is a torture so more like a big stone rolled off your head.It is well.
Hope someone can share with us the appeal timeline.

Babz · Post by **Babz** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:03 pm

kiss300 wrote:i havent had the letter yet. will have it tomorrow and will update you about everything. but for some funny reason i am so relax and not really bothered.
How long does it that to appeal?

Not later than 10 working days after deemed/actual date of service, which normally is day you receive the notice

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:21 pm

HOW LONG DOES APPEAL TAKES?

Babz · Post by **Babz** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:42 pm

kiss300 wrote:HOW LONG DOES APPEAL TAKES?

2-3 months

kofi75 · Post by **kofi75** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:01 pm

[quote="kiss300"]HOW LONG DOES APPEAL TAKES?[/quote
Its taking a bit longer now cos they got backlog.I submitted my appeal on the 27th of March and sent a request for expedited appeal hearing on compassionate grounds.I got a letter from the tribunal granting my request for an early hearing.29th July was the earliest they could get for me.I called them to request if they could bring it earlier than that but they said that was the best they could offer.
I will write another letter to push my luck and see if they could change it to an earlier date.Where you live could also be determining factor(guessing)

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:17 am

Im really sorry to read the bad news there too. Really building up now...

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http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

perhaps people should consider this and write a covering letter tailored to this guidance also?

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:32 pm

all my refusal was that his dad is there and can take care of him so that was it. nothing else. now i have gotten a letter from his dad and some payslips and passport. i dont know if i shd make a fresh application or still go on with the appeal

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:36 pm

kiss300 wrote:all my refusal was that his dad is there and can take care of him so that was it. nothing else. now i have gotten a letter from his dad and some payslips and passport. i dont know if i shd make a fresh application or still go on with the appeal

What is his dad's letter about and what will you use his dad's passport for?

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:08 pm

his dad's letter is to explain that he has less time to spend with the child and his day to day up keep and the mother is the best person to do that. also that he is working and he has no time to be with the child

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:47 pm

In their guidelines, they stated that unwillingness to take care of the child will not be considered. So the father writing that letter will mean you have contact with him and therfore the child too. My thoughts. If its for the appeal, then I think its ok. But for fresh application, he should be out of the scene.

mikilo2008 · Post by **mikilo2008** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:21 pm

[quote="mam2"]In their guidelines, they stated that unwillingness to take care of the child will not be considered. So the father writing that letter will mean you have contact with him and therfore the child too. My thoughts. If its for the appeal, then I think its ok. But for fresh application, he should be out of the scene.[/quote

Exactly that's the mistake my solicitor did he included the photocopy of my daughters dad passport. You have to insist u dnt know were her dad is. My lawyer mentioned gettn something from the court can't remember what he called it. It gives u full ownership of the child. Never mention that u even know his we're about that was one of the reasons for my refusal. Wat did ur solicitor say. I advise go for the oral appeal. If u reapply they will still give u the same story. We have to fight for our right. All the best

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:51 pm

Mikilo, I can't understand why your solicitor added the photocopy of the passport. It was unnecessary. Anyway,that is over and done now. I believe you will be successful with your EEA2.
One thing is that a lot of solicitors did trial and error with the interim guidelines and never advised anyone when the rules were amended. We wouldnt have been left
in limbo now.
Successful appeals will eventually change their interpretation of zambrano. I hope it happens with their intended amendment in July 2013.
That would be fab.

mikilo2008 · Post by **mikilo2008** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:39 pm

mam2 wrote:Mikilo, I can't understand why your solicitor added the photocopy of the passport. It was unnecessary. Anyway,that is over and done now. I believe you will be successful with your EEA2.
One thing is that a lot of solicitors did trial and error with the interim guidelines and never advised anyone when the rules were amended. We wouldnt have been left
in limbo now.
Successful appeals will eventually change their interpretation of zambrano. I hope it happens with their intended amendment in July 2013.
That would be fab.

I was shocked when I saw the refusal letter that he included his passport originally we wanted to fill in the FLR o form n compassionate ground and family life that month the zambrano case was won and then that was an option but all the documents he prepared for the Dlr was included in zambrano. Those were the things pointed out for the bases of refusal. I believe we were used as scape goats

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:04 pm

Any news friends?

sarahassy · Post by **sarahassy** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:33 pm

mam2 wrote:Any news friends?

still waiting,sent an e-mail on saturday,then called them on Wed and the secretary told me to give them one week.

evie233 · Post by **evie233** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:43 am

sarahassy wrote:
mam2 wrote:Any news friends?
still waiting,sent an e-mail on saturday,then called them on Wed and the secretary told me to give them one week.

I pray it good news..

mam2 · Post by **mam2** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:04 am

Me too.

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:18 am

i would advice anyone applying or still waiting if it is not too late to allow friends and family who have stay or visas in the country and where they say to write a letter as evidence that they are the sole carers of the British child. i was refused because i couldnt prove enough that i am the sole carer. so when i went to see my MP he told me to get letters from frds and family to state that i am the sole carer of the child. which i am doing now before i send my appeal. that way i filled where i failed. i hope this help

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