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Post by IQU » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:32 pm

[quote="waitingcitizen"][quote="IQU"]is anybody got his/her approval today[/quote]

Hi IQU, did you ring citizenship division today. Its tuesday, equiries are dealt today.[/quote] no i didnot ring them today ?i looking forward for thursday ?

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Post by starbuck » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:37 pm

corksev wrote:. My friend applied in May 11 and his number was 5000 something. So there would be above 10000 application only in 2011. And half of the 2010 still waiting so how come people waiting over 6 month is 8500. It doesnt add up. IF the figures are correct it means lots of people got result applied in 2011. IT is totally rediculous.
corksev --> Yes the wait is rediculous and so are the inconsistent answers. Regarding the number of applications . i dont think its right logic. I applied in aug-2011 and i am in some 10*** so do u think that in 2 months there are 5000 applications ? i dont think the numbering system is consecutive ..
i hope we all get results :-)

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Post by mvk » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:10 pm

^^^^ Did you apply in August or you received your acknowledgement letter in August?

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Post by Irishsoon » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:33 pm

I hope that some participants would keep those kids a little bit more quite or at least arrange a babysitter for just few hours. It's a solemn event and sometimes kids shouting became too much. Minister mentioned it as well.

The other suggestion is that it would have been much better if more people could have say the Irish National Anthem. I know it's in Gaelic, but worth memorising it as an Irish Citizen.

Below is the link to the lyrics for whom might be interested for the upcoming ceremonies.


Good ceremony and well done Minister Shatter. He & Fine Gael are clearly showing what speeding up the process means and how the other departments should learn a lesson how to clear a backlog and keep their promises!

Well done again Minister Shatter and Good luck for those who are still waiting.

Just under 8,500 waiting more than 6 months in the system. This progress is truly remarkable.


Irish National Anthem with Lyrics and pronunciations in Green bits:
http://irishnationalanthem.net/lyrics.html

Irish National Anthem:
http://www.nationalanthems.me/ireland-a ... a-bhfiann/

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amhr%C3%A1n_na_bhFiann

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Post by Irishsoon » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:35 pm

Irishsoon wrote:I hope that some participants would keep those kids a little bit more quite or at least arrange a babysitter for just few hours. It's a solemn event and sometimes kids shouting became too much. Minister mentioned it as well.

The other suggestion is that it would have been much better if more people could have say the Irish National Anthem. I know it's in Gaelic, but worth memorising it as an Irish Citizen.

Below is the link to the lyrics for whom might be interested for the upcoming ceremonies.


Good ceremony and well done Minister Shatter. He & Fine Gael are clearly showing what speeding up the process means and how the other departments should learn a lesson how to clear a backlog and keep their promises!

Well done again Minister Shatter and Good luck for those who are still waiting.

Just under 8,500 waiting more than 6 months in the system. This progress is truly remarkable.


Irish National Anthem with Lyrics and pronunciations in Green bits:
http://irishnationalanthem.net/lyrics.html

Irish National Anthem:
http://www.nationalanthems.me/ireland-a ... a-bhfiann/

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amhr%C3%A1n_na_bhFiann
Did anybody who managed to call INIS today get a definite date for the next ceremony or even a definite reply that the next ceremony will be in June? :?:

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Post by starbuck » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:42 pm

mvk wrote:^^^^ Did you apply in August or you received your acknowledgement letter in August?
applied in august -2011 and ack in sept - 2011

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Post by mvk » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:02 pm

[quote="starbuck"][quote="mvk"]^^^^ Did you apply in August or you received your acknowledgement letter in August?[/quote]

applied in august -2011 and ack in sept - 2011[/quote]


Shouldn't your date(month) of application be the date(month) on your acknowledgement and not the date(month) you sent in your application?

September in your case not August. :D

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Post by starbuck » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:31 pm

mvk wrote:
starbuck wrote:
mvk wrote:^^^^ Did you apply in August or you received your acknowledgement letter in August?
applied in august -2011 and ack in sept - 2011

Shouldn't your date(month) of application be the date(month) on your acknowledgement and not the date(month) you sent in your application?

September in your case not August. :D
I really dont understand .. i applied in aug-2011 and got an ack in sept-2011.
whats the issue in this ?

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Post by IQU » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:23 pm

good luck everbody for next approvals ? i hope our will be there ?

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Post by jonny321 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:36 am

Anybody got his/her or friend approval today if yes on what basis and when application was lodge...

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Post by salem66 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:24 am

I am just enquiring if anybody in this forum recently contacted his/ her local TD or the Immigrant Council of Ireland’s (ICI) regard the naturalisation process?
We need to ask the minster of justice what is the difference between the standard application and complicated application?

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ORDER OF APPLICATION

Post by seraph » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:31 am

WHAT I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY EXPERIENCE IS AS FOLLOWS:
THERE ARE 4 TYPES OF APPLICATION FORMS, FORM 8,9,10,11. FORM 9,10 AND 11 IS FOR MINORS. THEIR REF NO. IS DIFFERENT THAN FORM 8. THEY WILL GET CITIZENSHIP WITH IN 6 MONTHS. EVEN AMONG FORM-8 APPLICATIONS, REFUGEES AND THOSE WITH LTR WILL GET DECISIONS SOON. THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING CITIZENSHIP VERY FAST AND THE REST ARE IN THE QUEUE FOR MORE THAN 20 MONTHS.

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Post by gnem » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:36 pm

salem66 wrote:I am just enquiring if anybody in this forum recently contacted his/ her local TD or the Immigrant Council of Ireland’s (ICI) regard the naturalisation process?
We need to ask the minster of justice what is the difference between the standard application and complicated application?
The complicated one's must have brake immigration rules and the refusal is somewhat cumbersome because of the malafidis that lies with Res-judicata which the naturalization department could never use the same reasons that was used by immigration department that did not find it ways, i presume, or maybe they have been looking for jobs or contract for the past 10 years and they couldn't find or get one, or any other complicated reasons ? :lol:
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NO. OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS

Post by seraph » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:02 pm

FIND BELOW THE ANSWER OF ALAN SHATTER REGARDING THE NO. OF APPLICATIONS.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... #g1035.0.r

THERE WERE 26000 APPLICATIONS IN 2010 AND 23000 UP TO 31ST OCT 2011. THAT MEANS AROUND 30000 TOTAL APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE RECEIVED DURING 2011. THIS MEANS STILL A HUGE BACKLOG IS THERE. DO NOT ASSUME 8500 PENDING AS SOMEBODY WROTE PREVIOUSLY.

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Post by gnem » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:08 pm

seraph wrote:FIND BELOW THE ANSWER OF ALAN SHATTER REGARDING THE NO. OF APPLICATIONS.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... #g1035.0.r

THERE WERE 26000 APPLICATIONS IN 2010 AND 23000 UP TO 31ST OCT 2011. THAT MEANS AROUND 30000 TOTAL APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE RECEIVED DURING 2011. THIS MEANS STILL A HUGE BACKLOG IS THERE. DO NOT ASSUME 8500 PENDING AS SOMEBODY WROTE PREVIOUSLY.
But me honest the parents of Irish born ''standard'' application couldn't make up to 30,000 of the applicant i presume guess ?

Mind you there isn't any application called IBC in the naturalization process please bear mind.

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Re: NO. OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS

Post by salem66 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:22 pm

seraph wrote:FIND BELOW THE ANSWER OF ALAN SHATTER REGARDING THE NO. OF APPLICATIONS.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... #g1035.0.r

THERE WERE 26000 APPLICATIONS IN 2010 AND 23000 UP TO 31ST OCT 2011. THAT MEANS AROUND 30000 TOTAL APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE RECEIVED DURING 2011. THIS MEANS STILL A HUGE BACKLOG IS THERE. DO NOT ASSUME 8500 PENDING AS SOMEBODY WROTE PREVIOUSLY.
Year Received Processed Outstanding (Backlog)
2007 7,500 1,500 6,000
2008 11,000 3,000 8,000
2009 28,000 4,500 23,500
2010 26,000 6,500 19,500
2011 (To Oct) 23,000 11,000 12,000
Total 95,500 26,500 69,000

8500 PENDING I do not think SO
:!: :?:

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Post by gnem » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:32 pm

salem66 wrote:
seraph wrote:FIND BELOW THE ANSWER OF ALAN SHATTER REGARDING THE NO. OF APPLICATIONS.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... #g1035.0.r

THERE WERE 26000 APPLICATIONS IN 2010 AND 23000 UP TO 31ST OCT 2011. THAT MEANS AROUND 30000 TOTAL APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE RECEIVED DURING 2011. THIS MEANS STILL A HUGE BACKLOG IS THERE. DO NOT ASSUME 8500 PENDING AS SOMEBODY WROTE PREVIOUSLY.
Year Received Processed Outstanding (Backlog)
2007 7,500 1,500 6,000
2008 11,000 3,000 8,000
2009 28,000 4,500 23,500
2010 26,000 6,500 19,500
2011 (To Oct) 23,000 11,000 12,000
Total 95,500 26,500 69,000

8500 PENDING I do not think SO
:!: :?:
so what's the figure granted and what's the outstanding figures waiting right now ? :lol:

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Post by salem66 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:48 pm

Year Received Processed Outstanding (Backlog)
2007 7,500 1,500 6,000
2008 11,000 3,000 8,000
2009 28,000 4,500 23,500
2010 26,000 6,500 19,500
2011 (To Oct) 23,000 11,000 12,000
Total 95,500 26,500 69,000

8500 PENDING I do not think SO
:!: :?:[/quote]

so what's the figure granted and what's the outstanding figures waiting right now ? :lol:[/quote]

GOD and INIS know exactly what is the the figure granted and outstanding figures waiting to be processed!!
Based on the above table:
TOTAL no. Processed since 2007 is 26,500.
Total no. Outstanding (Backlog) since 2007 is 69,000.

But NOT the 8500 PENDING as the numbers do not addup!! :!: :?: :!:

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Post by gnem » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:05 pm

salem66 wrote:Year Received Processed Outstanding (Backlog)
2007 7,500 1,500 6,000
2008 11,000 3,000 8,000
2009 28,000 4,500 23,500
2010 26,000 6,500 19,500
2011 (To Oct) 23,000 11,000 12,000
Total 95,500 26,500 69,000

8500 PENDING I do not think SO
:!: :?:
so what's the figure granted and what's the outstanding figures waiting right now ? :lol:[/quote]

GOD and INIS know exactly what is the the figure granted and outstanding figures waiting to be processed!!
Based on the above table:
TOTAL no. Processed since 2007 is 26,500.
Total no. Outstanding (Backlog) since 2007 is 69,000.

But NOT the 8500 PENDING as the numbers do not addup!! :!: :?: :!:[/quote]

I personally will dispute the applicant total number of 69,000 outstanding unless they want to slow down again or the type of people left waiting they don't like them, that's why they're trying to inflate the figure, but it's inevitable be honest as demonstrated in the case of pink pok and osheku in the constitutional argument on certificate of naturalization's.

And i wonder those who emigrate out of Ireland, how their credit history will be alright before emigration as criteria for immigration fairy tail.

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Re: NO. OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS

Post by salem66 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:37 pm

Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)

The Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service is currently processing over 16,000 applications for naturalisation. One year ago there was a backlog of approximately 22,000 applications awaiting decision. :!: Since then, as a result of the measures I initiated to deal with the backlog, over 16,000 applications were dealt with in 2011; more than double the number finalised in 2010. This year to date I have made determinations on over 3,000 applications. I expect that the current backlog of standard cases will be cleared over the coming months with the 6 month average processing time for standard applications being reached by June 2012

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... -06.1411.0


Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)
Since November 2011, I have made a decision on over 5,000 applications. I expect to make a final decision on a further 4,000 cases over the coming weeks.
:?: :!: :?:
http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2012-03-13.732.0

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Post by batakooji » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:51 pm

Hello salem66,

I can see how upset you are about the whole issue, and I can understand why. Can you share with us when did you apply, on what grouds, and what did they tell you when you last contacted them

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Post by robby1 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:05 pm

hi ,
Guys come out the controversy of figures and if you don't believe in figures given by minister in recent ceremony then how come you are considering figures given by him in kildarestreet .your mathematical skills won't make any difference on people working in citizenship office .they are rushing through now because they were relaxing in past years.i know people still waiting from 08,09,10and 11 hopefully they will all come through in next 4 to six 6 months.
be positive and pray ..
goodluck

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Re: NO. OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS

Post by jambalap » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:36 pm

salem66 wrote:
seraph wrote:FIND BELOW THE ANSWER OF ALAN SHATTER REGARDING THE NO. OF APPLICATIONS.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... #g1035.0.r

THERE WERE 26000 APPLICATIONS IN 2010 AND 23000 UP TO 31ST OCT 2011. THAT MEANS AROUND 30000 TOTAL APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE RECEIVED DURING 2011. THIS MEANS STILL A HUGE BACKLOG IS THERE. DO NOT ASSUME 8500 PENDING AS SOMEBODY WROTE PREVIOUSLY.
Year Received Processed Outstanding (Backlog)
2007 7,500 1,500 6,000
2008 11,000 3,000 8,000
2009 28,000 4,500 23,500
2010 26,000 6,500 19,500
2011 (To Oct) 23,000 11,000 12,000
Total 95,500 26,500 69,000

8500 PENDING I do not think SO
:!: :?:
Is it just me who is seeing the minister said Nearly 15,000 valid applications have been decided so far this year (compared to 7,785 for the full year in 2010) where as 6,500 and 11,000 (to end Oct) certificates of naturalisation issued respectively. Can you see the difference even though in 2010 there are 6,500 certificates issued but 7,785 processed, I have no idea what happened to the difference rejected may be. In 2011 until oct 11,000 issued but 15,000 applications processed. They count all the applications recived and some of them are invalid which they return or reject hope the numbers will add up if this number is taken in to account.

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Re: NO. OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS

Post by gnem » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:01 pm

salem66 wrote:Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)

The Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service is currently processing over 16,000 applications for naturalisation. One year ago there was a backlog of approximately 22,000 applications awaiting decision. :!: Since then, as a result of the measures I initiated to deal with the backlog, over 16,000 applications were dealt with in 2011; more than double the number finalised in 2010. This year to date I have made determinations on over 3,000 applications. I expect that the current backlog of standard cases will be cleared over the coming months with the 6 month average processing time for standard applications being reached by June 2012

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... -06.1411.0


Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)
Since November 2011, I have made a decision on over 5,000 applications. I expect to make a final decision on a further 4,000 cases over the coming weeks.
:?: :!: :?:
http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2012-03-13.732.0
But Alan Shatter Rock as the leader of hope of a new life mate, we promise you deserve a takeover Alan!!! :D

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Re: NO. OF CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONS

Post by jambalap » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:04 pm

gnem wrote:
salem66 wrote:Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)

The Citizenship Division of the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service is currently processing over 16,000 applications for naturalisation. One year ago there was a backlog of approximately 22,000 applications awaiting decision. :!: Since then, as a result of the measures I initiated to deal with the backlog, over 16,000 applications were dealt with in 2011; more than double the number finalised in 2010. This year to date I have made determinations on over 3,000 applications. I expect that the current backlog of standard cases will be cleared over the coming months with the 6 month average processing time for standard applications being reached by June 2012

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id= ... -06.1411.0


Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)
Since November 2011, I have made a decision on over 5,000 applications. I expect to make a final decision on a further 4,000 cases over the coming weeks.
:?: :!: :?:
http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2012-03-13.732.0
But Alan Shatter Rock as the leader of hope of a new life mate, we promise you deserve a takeover Alan!!! :D
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