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Post by Keisha » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:34 pm

@Kukuwife...thanks.I googled the procedure and they said usually they do PAP before JR!I pray that all goes well!

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Post by Kukuwife » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:41 pm

Keisha wrote:@Kukuwife...thanks.I googled the procedure and they said usually they do PAP before JR!I pray that all goes well!
Amen
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Post by nilemarques » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:15 pm

[quote="Kukuwife"][quote="Keisha"]@Kukuwife...thanks.
Does anyone know if solicitor need to file PAP 1st before submitting the JR??My caseworker at the law firm is starting to make pluck out my eye-lashes now!I googled and read about it but still not sure.I pray that all is according to plan.Only God knows how He will deal with these people at court and HO![/quote]

I don't think is a must that PAP should be sent before JR but it is advisable to do PAP because it might do the trick and it also help when you face the judge.[/quote]

Hi Kukuwife and everybody else! Thanks for the reassurance. Just wanted to add a comment with regards to Keisha's question. The answer is yes, a letter before claim or PAP precedes the JR. Basically, it just letting the HO that you are going to apply for a JR. In the old days they would be scared out of their skin would reconsider a decision but nowadays they don't even bat an eyelid.@ Keisha,I posted a link a few pages back about a PAP. Can't remember page number but think its 362.

Congrats to those that have been granted
@Verbina, you continue to crack me up.

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Post by hatchsead » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:14 am

nilemarques wrote:
Kukuwife wrote:
Keisha wrote:@Kukuwife...thanks.
Does anyone know if solicitor need to file PAP 1st before submitting the JR??My caseworker at the law firm is starting to make pluck out my eye-lashes now!I googled and read about it but still not sure.I pray that all is according to plan.Only God knows how He will deal with these people at court and HO!
I don't think is a must that PAP should be sent before JR but it is advisable to do PAP because it might do the trick and it also help when you face the judge.
Hi Kukuwife and everybody else! Thanks for the reassurance. Just wanted to add a comment with regards to Keisha's question. The answer is yes, a letter before claim or PAP precedes the JR. Basically, it just letting the HO that you are going to apply for a JR. In the old days they would be scared out of their skin would reconsider a decision but nowadays they don't even bat an eyelid.@ Keisha,I posted a link a few pages back about a PAP. Can't remember page number but think its 362.

Congrats to those that have been granted
@Verbina, you continue to crack me up.
I suppose you are referring to this

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/proced ... v#IDAGJKCC
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Post by Call me dude » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:59 am

hanenyo wrote:Good afternoon everyone. I have been following this thread for sometime and it is my time to testify to the goodness of God.
My FLR(O) was considered three and half weeks ago and this afternoon I received my BRP.
To those who are waiting for decisions, please keep the faith and those that have been refused, it's too late for you to just give up, You will overcome.
Congratulations to those that have granted.


Congrat!enjoy ur freedom
It is well

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Re: BRP Card received

Post by Call me dude » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:07 am

Don2004 wrote:Hello everybody,
I have received today my BRP card only for myself and for both my girls they still are with DX, since HO as always made mistake and sent the BRP cards to my old address. I just wanted to let everybody know that there is hope for everyone I have been in UK for only 5 years and nobody in my family is British citizen and after 14 months wait for extension I got the good news today. I still haven't received my documents but once I get them I will let everyone know what was on my decision document. :P

Application sent 04/09/12
BRP arrived: 28/10/13 issued 18/10/13

Congrats Don2004...
It is well

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Post by tina18 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:14 am

Kukuwife wrote:
Keisha wrote:@Kukuwife..all shall be well doll.I know how it feels but never give up.Keep faith and roll all the tribulations unto the Lord.The battles are for the Lord and we shall prevail by Fire by Force!!!Please provide me with the details of the Civil Legal Aid contacts,so to pass it on to a friend who's applications has been chilling for more than 4yrs now.Yep...and they're not doing anything about it.Thanks
Keisha and tina18
Getting legal aid also depend on where you live. Am using duncan Lewis solicitors they are good and considerate. Check if they are in your area where you live. they are very busy try and book an appointment with them on this number 02079234020. They are big and they work on quota ,and sometime they are fully booked.

How do you apply for the legal aid though? Where do I go to apply for it? Would you know how much financial assistance they provide? Application under 7 yeat rule was refused on October 4, amd my solicitor contacted me on the 24th to break the news (almost 3 weekss delayed). No right of appeal too. Please give me some advice on what to do next? To those who have been refused with no right of appeal, please kindly share the step you did afterwards. I am going to a non-profit registered OISC today for free immigration advice, as I felt like our solicitor is only up for the money and neglecting us. Thanks.

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Post by Keisha » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:15 am

Morning All,

@Marques&Hatchsead....thanks,I read about that yesterday.Feel neglected by the solicitor and I'm gonna right them every nice hot letter.I'm busy hustling for £2000 needed for JR,yet they can't even update.But,I believe God will speak for and conquer every evil plan of the enemy!

@Tina...I also was denied an appeal and the solicitor suggested JR.So,I'm busy hustling by the grace of God to raise it!Don't despair as God will meet you at the point of need and provide for you.I pray that they grant you a free legal aid in Jesus name!

There's one blogger who went for a JR and the HO wants him to not continue with it,as they realised the mess they did.IT seems like he's about to be granted a stay.Where are you at my brother,as we are asking for an update.Hope you've been granted your visa in Jesus name!

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Post by Keisha » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:17 am

@Tina...Kukuwife posted contact details of solicitors who may take your case on pro-bono.Check Kukuwife's posts and call them to hear what they may say.All the best!

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Re: Re applying

Post by naba » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:34 pm

MRLAOLU wrote:
naba wrote:
MRLAOLU wrote:
Hadassah wrote:Hello ladies and gentlemen. I ll like to congratulate all those that had their visas granted and to us dt were refused that the good God will have mercy on us and make a way. And to those waiting to hear for a reply,I wish dem all d very best according to their heart desires.
I have a quick question, pls aw does reapplying after refusal with right to peal works? My lawyer advices I reapply that they r responding faster now. I ll appreciate to read a reply soon. Thanks
Hi

The problem about reapplying and not appealing is that if you are later refused again you will not be granted an appeal right the second time. My advice is that you complete an appeal form. It may take longer for the appeal to be heard but your chances of been granted are far greater as HO can simply refuse you again. Good Luck
Dear MRLAOLU, I heard you applied for the appeal right and got it. Please let me know how long did it take to get the permission? Thanks so much, god bless you.
Hi Naba

I put in an appeal and attached a letter requesting for permission to appeal in June 2013 and was advised of my right to appeal in August 2013. It took a little over 8 weeks for the appeal hearing date to come through.

In your case, did your solicitor actually completed the appeal form or just sent a letter requesting permission to appeal? In my view they ought to have sent an appeal form as well as permission requesting appeal as the tribunal are very strict with appeal deadline.

Interestingly, HO sent me a letter last week admitting they were wrong to deny me appeal in the first instance and confirming my appeal date stands. (Horrible people).
Dear MRLAOLU, Thank you for the information. Sorry for the late as I was not getting access to the site- wondering why! Good to know eventually the HO admitted their fault. Wish same happened with my case.
Yeah my solicitor completed the appeal form where I had to put my Bank detail for the payment. They also sent a request letter. Is that ok?
Thank you again. God bless you.

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Re: advice

Post by naba » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:47 pm

elastep wrote:
east579new wrote:
naba wrote:Dear mates,

Hope all you are well. Please do advise me on a few things; my visa expired in last month, I have been refused no appeal right but my solicitor applied for a appeal permission. Do I have any chance to face immigration police? If so what should I do? Does HO know my legal process? I am totally in dark.
highly appreciate your advice and suggestions. God bless you all.
Naba it must be a good 7-8 months since my partner was refused and still no sign of the UKBully agency, certainly dont expect them around anytime soon.

But of course that’s not to say you shouldn’t still be cautious always try and be aware of your surroundings etc
@Naba I know a person who was refused 6 years ago and still waitng for removal notice. So don't be expecting yours anytime soon. Do what you have to do to get your case rolling and don't listen to the lawyer.
@ elastep, thank you hun for the information. This gives me hope. God bless you.

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Re: advice

Post by elastep » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:04 pm

Hello guys I found this and thought that it might be of help to those who needs it.
Going to Court
Before taking a complaint as far as court you should always seek legal advice. You can obtain free legal advice from organisations such as Law Centres or from solicitors who offer a free initial first interview, usually lasting 30 minutes.

If you cannot afford to pay a solicitor, you may be eligible for Public Funding (formerly known as Legal Aid). The Community Legal Services Fund is the scheme for providing public funding to financially eligible people with legal problems other than criminal matters. The Legal Services Commission, which took over from the Legal Aid Board, is in charge of administering the Community Legal Services Fund.

Solicitors and advisers who can provide publicly funded advice will have a Community Legal Services Quality Mark that shows they have reached an approved standard. You can obtain details of all Community Legal Services advisers, including areas of specialisation, from their helpline on 0845 608 1122 or by using the CLS website: www.clsdirect.org.uk

You may be entitled to Public Funding just to obtain advice from a solicitor and to have a solicitor write letters on your behalf. This is known as 'Legal Help'. You may also be entitled to Public Funding for your solicitor and/or a barrister to represent you in court. For this you will need a 'Legal Representation Certificate'. Your solicitor will need to apply for this on your behalf.

All applications for Public Funding are tested according to your income, so if you are on a low income with little capital, you will probably be entitled to Public Funding. In some cases, even if you are financially eligible, the Legal Services Commission may decide that you should make a contribution (usually paid monthly) toward the costs of your case. The Community Legal Services website has an online calculator that will help you work out whether you are eligible or not. The value of your home can be taken into account in some situations.

Even if you qualify financially for Public Funding, you will also need to satisfy the merits test. In other words, the Legal Services Commission needs to be satisfied that your case has a good chance of success before it will grant Public Funding. Sometimes your solicitor can make this assessment or he or she may need to obtain specialist advice from a barrister to support your application.

If you are successful with a case funded by the Community Legal Service, you may be asked to pay some or all of the money back. This is called the Statutory Charge. You should make sure your solicitor has explained this to you. You may be able to come to a No Win - No Fee agreement with your solicitor. This means that you will not be charged for services unless a minimum agreed result is achieved in your case. Obviously it is important that you are both clear on what has been agreed between you. You may also be able to take out insurance to cover your legal costs in the result of an unsuccessful action.

If you have difficulty obtaining representation some organisations such as the Bar Pro Bono Unit or the Free Representation Unit do provide free representation in some cases.

The Bar Pro Bono Unit can be contacted at:

Bar Pro Bono Unit
6 Gray’s Inn Square
Gray’s Inn
London WC1R 5AZ
Tel: 0207 831 9711
enquiries@barprobono.org.uk
You cannot approach the Free Representation Unit directly but you can ask your local Citizen’s Advice Bureau to do this on your behalf.
Application: flro ECHR article 8
applied: 12/12/2012.
Bio done: April 2013
Refused dated: 22 May 2013
PAP: 18/09/2013
JR: 03/10/2013
Outcome:

Only God knows what tomorrow may give birth to.

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Post by nilemarques » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:27 pm

[quote="hatchsead"][quote="nilemarques"][quote="Kukuwife"][quote="Keisha"]@Kukuwife...thanks.
Does anyone know if solicitor need to file PAP 1st before submitting the JR??My caseworker at the law firm is starting to make pluck out my eye-lashes now!I googled and read about it but still not sure.I pray that all is according to plan.Only God knows how He will deal with these people at court and HO![/quote]

I don't think is a must that PAP should be sent before JR but it is advisable to do PAP because it might do the trick and it also help when you face the judge.[/quote]

Hi Kukuwife and everybody else! Thanks for the reassurance. Just wanted to add a comment with regards to Keisha's question. The answer is yes, a letter before claim or PAP precedes the JR. Basically, it just letting the HO that you are going to apply for a JR. In the old days they would be scared out of their skin would reconsider a decision but nowadays they don't even bat an eyelid.@ Keisha,I posted a link a few pages back about a PAP. Can't remember page number but think its 362.

Congrats to those that have been granted
@Verbina, you continue to crack me up.[/quote]

I suppose you are referring to this

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/proced ... v#IDAGJKCC[/quote]

Yeah, that's the one Hatchsead!

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Re: advice

Post by naba » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:10 pm

elastep wrote:Hello guys I found this and thought that it might be of help to those who needs it.
Going to Court
Before taking a complaint as far as court you should always seek legal advice. You can obtain free legal advice from organisations such as Law Centres or from solicitors who offer a free initial first interview, usually lasting 30 minutes.

If you cannot afford to pay a solicitor, you may be eligible for Public Funding (formerly known as Legal Aid). The Community Legal Services Fund is the scheme for providing public funding to financially eligible people with legal problems other than criminal matters. The Legal Services Commission, which took over from the Legal Aid Board, is in charge of administering the Community Legal Services Fund.

Solicitors and advisers who can provide publicly funded advice will have a Community Legal Services Quality Mark that shows they have reached an approved standard. You can obtain details of all Community Legal Services advisers, including areas of specialisation, from their helpline on 0845 608 1122 or by using the CLS website: www.clsdirect.org.uk

You may be entitled to Public Funding just to obtain advice from a solicitor and to have a solicitor write letters on your behalf. This is known as 'Legal Help'. You may also be entitled to Public Funding for your solicitor and/or a barrister to represent you in court. For this you will need a 'Legal Representation Certificate'. Your solicitor will need to apply for this on your behalf.

All applications for Public Funding are tested according to your income, so if you are on a low income with little capital, you will probably be entitled to Public Funding. In some cases, even if you are financially eligible, the Legal Services Commission may decide that you should make a contribution (usually paid monthly) toward the costs of your case. The Community Legal Services website has an online calculator that will help you work out whether you are eligible or not. The value of your home can be taken into account in some situations.

Even if you qualify financially for Public Funding, you will also need to satisfy the merits test. In other words, the Legal Services Commission needs to be satisfied that your case has a good chance of success before it will grant Public Funding. Sometimes your solicitor can make this assessment or he or she may need to obtain specialist advice from a barrister to support your application.

If you are successful with a case funded by the Community Legal Service, you may be asked to pay some or all of the money back. This is called the Statutory Charge. You should make sure your solicitor has explained this to you. You may be able to come to a No Win - No Fee agreement with your solicitor. This means that you will not be charged for services unless a minimum agreed result is achieved in your case. Obviously it is important that you are both clear on what has been agreed between you. You may also be able to take out insurance to cover your legal costs in the result of an unsuccessful action.

If you have difficulty obtaining representation some organisations such as the Bar Pro Bono Unit or the Free Representation Unit do provide free representation in some cases.

The Bar Pro Bono Unit can be contacted at:

Bar Pro Bono Unit
6 Gray’s Inn Square
Gray’s Inn
London WC1R 5AZ
Tel: 0207 831 9711
enquiries@barprobono.org.uk
You cannot approach the Free Representation Unit directly but you can ask your local Citizen’s Advice Bureau to do this on your behalf.
@elastep, this sounds great! Thank you very much for posting such an useful information. God bless you.

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Post by winners » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:39 pm

My family application refused base on 7 YEARS RULES,
Applied 05/10/12
Refused 23/10/13
My solicitor informed me today ,though he received decision 28th/10/13.
God will make away, He made impossibility
possible.
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Post by verbina » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:50 pm

winners wrote:My family application refused base on 7 YEARS RULES,
Applied 05/10/12
Refused 23/10/13
My solicitor informed me today ,though he received decision 28th/10/13.
God will make away, He made impossibility
possible.
Oh my gosh! Really sorry to hear this hun! Have you been given a right to appeal?
"You need chaos in your soul to give birth to a dancing star."

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Post by winners » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:52 pm

verbina wrote:
winners wrote:My family application refused base on 7 YEARS RULES,
Applied 05/10/12
Refused 23/10/13
My solicitor informed me today ,though he received decision 28th/10/13.
God will make away, He made impossibility
possible.
Oh my gosh! Really sorry to hear this hun! Have you been given a right to appeal?
No right of appeal.
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Post by Shondra Sharma » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:53 pm

@winners ! So sorry to hear this news, everyone refused under this rules, need to fight in court, what your solicitor saying? god bless.

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Post by Call me dude » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:56 pm

winners wrote:My family application refused base on 7 YEARS RULES,
Applied 05/10/12
Refused 23/10/13
My solicitor informed me today ,though he received decision 28th/10/13.
God will make away, He made impossibility
possible.
Sorry about your refusal...don't give up.Struggle continues
It is well

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Post by CrystalNewbie » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:57 pm

winners wrote:
verbina wrote:
winners wrote:My family application refused base on 7 YEARS RULES,
Applied 05/10/12
Refused 23/10/13
My solicitor informed me today ,though he received decision 28th/10/13.
God will make away, He made impossibility
possible.
Oh my gosh! Really sorry to hear this hun! Have you been given a right to appeal?
No right of appeal.
I am sorry for the bad news....I also applied based on the seven year rule....talked to my solicitor most people that used this route were refused so am not expecting good news....I am just annoyed that it is taking long. I applied before my previous visa expired so they should give me right of appeal...atleast I hope so....otherwise I dont know why they brought this rule when they are going to refuse all applications..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Post by winners » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:59 pm

Shondra Sharma wrote:@winners ! So sorry to hear this news, everyone refused under this rules, need to fight in court, what your solicitor saying? god bless.

Judicial review, I asked him about reconsideration ,he said HO would still not change and advised me strongly to do JR, though we are meeting this Friday.
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Post by Shondra Sharma » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:06 pm

@winners my solicitor saying the same, just send reconsideration letter, no point going straight away for JR.

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Post by Shondra Sharma » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:09 pm

Guys one thing I can't understand why HO refusing all the family life under 7 year applications, probably HO have good reason to refuse for that even in the court HO have confident they will win the case, please guys study on this matter.

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Post by winners » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:12 pm

Shondra Sharma wrote:@winners my solicitor saying the same, just send reconsideration letter, no point going straight away for JR.
My solicitor seems not interested in reconsideration though if i ask him to do it won't decline but saying JR is the best way to going about it, My solicitor told there is a lots of queue now in the court .
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Winners

Post by God's Authority » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:19 pm

Hi Winners

I sure know how you feel, please do not be dismayed. I think the home office is refusing quite a lot of applications not just on the 7 years rule but family related cases generally. Please just be calm and try to focus on the next course of action. I wish you the best.

Shondra, I hope you are ok too? I believe all will end well for you, just keep the spirit.

Crystal dear, I love your spirit but please just stay positive. God bless you

Callmedude, Hatchshead, Verbina,believe,elastep, naba,hatsuku,kukuwife,keisha,rina, and every wonderful person I missed out I hope we are all doing well God bless.

Sorry, got the memory of a fish now so if I missed out your name, sincere apologies but God bless you.

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