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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by nikkig » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:27 am

nikkig wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:24 am
nikkig wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:42 pm
Application Timeline (update 1)
update 2
Eligibility criteria: 5yr + 1yr ILR (ILR gained in 2013; living in UK 10 years)
Nationality: South African
Language Criteria: UK Degree, Life in the UK test, Trinity College, Cambridge
Method of application: online with DRS and JCAP (Aberdeen City Council)
Date of online submission: 11/02/18
Date of DRS and JCAP: 12/02/18
Date of biometrics: 12/02/18
Date documents posted: 13/02/18 (secure post)
Date of receipt by UKBA: 11/02/18
Date of debit of fees: 11/02/18
Date of receipt of acknowledgement: 12/02/18
Date Documents Received: Royal Mail tracking shows receipt on 14/02/18
Date of receipt of approval: 31st March 2018 (received 13th April 2018)
Date of Ceremony: 18th April 2018 (private ceremony)
Date of passport application: 12/02/18
Date passport received: TBC

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Selkirk » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:08 pm

Selkirk wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:50 pm
Eligibility criteria: 9 Years Ancestry + 1 year ILR
Application Type: Single
Language criteria met: Native Speaker
Method of application: Online
Date of application: 15/02/2018
Payment method: Credit Card
Date of receipt by UKV&I: 16/02/2018
Date of debit of fees: 15/02/2018
Date of acknowledgement letter (via email) received: 16/02/2018
Biometric enrolled at the post office: 18/02/2018
Date of approval: 16/03/2018
Date of approval letter received: 21/03/2018
Date of ceremony: 11/04/2018
All done! A lot faster than I expected, possibly due to the new online system. Good luck everyone :)

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by ariskar » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:13 pm

Eligibility criteria: 5 years Residence + 1 year (EEA)PR.
Language criteria met: Trinity College London B1.
Nationality: EEA (NWEURO8)
Method of application: NCS Dagenham - paper form
Date of application: 23/10/17
Payment method: Debit Card. Passport paid by postal order.
Date of receipt by HO/UKVI: 25/10/17
Date of acknowledgement (email): 01/11/17
Date of acknowledgement letter : Dated: 31/10/17, Received: 02/11/17.
Date money gone off account: 31/10/17 For Passport : (paid by postal order - JCAP)
Date of letter requesting biometrics: Dated : 14/11/17, Received: 21/11/17.
First biometric enrollment letter not received by 16/11/2017, emailed nationalitybiometrics@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk on 9/11/2017 - autoresponse promised reply within 10 working days, they replied on 14/11/17 that the first letter was posted on 31/10/17 and that a second letter would be posted on the same day 14/11/17. Second letter: 14/11/17 giving 15 working days deadline, received on 21/11/17
Biometrics done: 01/12/17.
Online Application Status: not available
1) Awaiting Decision - Emails from 20/12/2017 and 06/02/2018 mention case had not been yet decided.
2) Decided - .
3) Updated Online - .
Changed address to different council area (City of Westminster) using online form: 27/12/2017

Date of approval: 19/02/18.
Letter of Approval: 28/02/18.(Dated- 19/02/18)
Letter of Ceremony: .joint approval and ceremony invitation letter
Date of ceremony: 13/03/18 (public - Westminster council). Council booked
Date applied for passport: 23/10/2017 (JCAP)
Date HMPO acknowledgment SMS received: 04/11/17
Date passport received: HMPO acknowledged DX delivered the Passport to WRONG ADDRESS on 24/03/2018 :evil: :evil: :evil:
HMPO issued replacement passport free of charge and was picked up in person by the applicant at Collections of HMPO office in London Victoria: 12/04/2018

Certainly not the smoothest of applications if one reads the above. Nonetheless successful in the end. I appreciate this forum and its members' help. Best wishes to everyone waiting on citizenship and immigration applications! :D

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by shn1 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:43 am

Application Timeline
Eligibility criteria: 6 yrs ILR
Language criteria met: Trinity College London B1
Nationality: Zimbabwean
Method of application: NCS Haringey - single application
Date of application: 21/11/2017
Date of receipt by UKBA: 07/12/2017 via email
Biometric enrolment : post office on 11/12/2017
Date of debit of fees: 20/12/2017
Date of receipt of approval:31/01/2018 letter received 10/02/2018
Date of Ceremony: 21/03/2017 at local council Kingston
Date of passport application: 28/03/2018 via post office
Date application received by HMPO: 05/04/2018 received via text "we'll contact you by 26/04 if more info or interview is required.
Date passport received: 16/04/2018

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by shn1 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:44 am

Application Timeline
Eligibility criteria: 6 yrs ILR
Language criteria met: Trinity College London B1
Nationality: Zimbabwean
Method of application: NCS Haringey - single application
Date of application: 21/11/2017
Date of receipt by UKBA: 07/12/2017 via email
Biometric enrolment : post office on 11/12/2017
Date of debit of fees: 20/12/2017
Date of receipt of approval:31/01/2018 letter received 10/02/2018
Date of Ceremony: 21/03/2017 at local council Kingston
Date of passport application: 28/03/2018 via post office
Date application received by HMPO: 05/04/2018 received via text "we'll contact you by 26/04 if more info or interview is required.
Date passport received: 16/04/2018

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Jonny31t » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:10 pm

Eligibility criteria: Long residence + 3 years ILR
Language Criteria: Degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: Online + NDRS + JCAP
Date of application: 8 Mar 2018
Payment method: Credit card
Date of acknowledgement: 9 Mar 2018
Date of debit of fees: 9 Mar 2018
Date of Biometric letter issued: 9 Mar 2018
Date of biometric letter received: 9 Mar 2018
Date Biometrics enrolled: 9 Mar 2018
Date of documents received at the HO: 16 Mar 2018
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application: 16 Mar 2018
Date of debit of fees: 05 Apr 2018
Date Passport to be received:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by vilsonrjunior » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:37 am

Eligibility criteria: 5 years + 1 year with EEA BPR
Language Criteria: IELTS B1 Life Skills
Nationality : Non-EU married to an EU national
Method of application: Online + NDRS + JCAP
Date of application: 17 Apr 2018
Payment method: Credit card
Date of acknowledgement:
Date of debit of fees: 17 Apr 2018
Date of Biometric letter issued: 17 Apr 2018
Date of biometric letter received: N/A
Date Biometrics enrolled: 18 Apr 2018
Date of documents received at the HO: Hopefully tomorrow, 19 Apr 2018
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application: 18 Apr 2018
Date of debit of fees:
Date Passport to be received:

Let the waiting game begin!

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by adfalkiewicz » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:48 pm

Eligibility criteria: 10 years + 1year EEA BPR
Language Criteria: Exemption due to deafness
Nationality : Polish
Method of application: NCS King's Lynn, paper form
Date of application: 16/04/2018
Payment method: Debit card
Date of acknowledgement:
Date of debit of fees:
Date of Biometric letter issued:
Date of biometric letter received:
Date Biometrics enrolled:
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application:
Date of debit of fees:
Date Passport to be received:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by virk1 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:44 pm

Application Timeline
Eligibility criteria: 5 years plus 1 year PR
Method of application: Postal
Date of receipt by UKBA: 17-04-2018
Payment method: Debit card
Date of acknowledgement:
Date of debit of fees:
Date of Biometric letter issued:
Date of biometric letter received:
Date Biometrics enrolled:
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application:
Date of debit of fees:
Date Passport to be received:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Samsara » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:05 am

Eligibility criterie: 8years BRP+ 6years ILR
Language criterie: Trinity exam+ Life in the UK
Nationality: Russian
Method of application: JCAP NCS Telford
Date of application: 30/01/2018 online
Date of acknowledgement: 31/01/2018 email
Date of debit fees: 30/01/2018
Date of supporting documents sent: 06/02/2018
Date of biometric letter received: 24/04/2018 (said I have ignored the first letter :shock: which I have never received)
Biometric enrolled: 26/02/2018
Date of approval letter received: 29/03/2018
Date of ceremony: 18/04/2018
Date passport received: waiting

Good luck everyone ! :D

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by DeeDee2 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:17 pm

Eligibility criteria: 5 years + 1 year with EEA BPR
Language Criteria: UK Degree
Nationality : EU
Method of application: NCAS Islington
Date of application: 4 April 2018
Payment method: Credit card
Date of acknowledgement:
Date of debit of fees:
Date of Biometric letter issued:
Date of biometric letter received:
Date Biometrics enrolled:
Date of documents received at the HO: 5 April 2018
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application:
Date of debit of fees:
Date Passport to be received:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Chindekha » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:21 pm

Chindekha wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:56 pm
Eligibility criteria: 5yrs Tier 2 + 1 year on PR
Language criteria met: UK Degree
Nationality: Malawian
Payment method: Debit card
Method of application- NCS Westminster(JCAP)
Date of application: 26/03/2018
Payment method: Debit card
Date of receipt by HO/UKVI: 27/03/2018(confirmed on Royalmail tracker)
Date of acknowledgement: 19/04/2018
Date of fees debited: TBA
Date of letter requesting biometrics: TBA
Biometrics done: TBA
Date of documents sent: TBA
Date of approval: TBA
Date of approval letter received: TBA
Date of ceremony: TBA
Date applied for passports: TBA
Date passports received: TBA

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by mach1 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:47 pm

Eligibility criteria: Long residence + Three years permanent residence
Language Criteria: UK Master's degree
Nationality : Non-EU
Method of application: NCS Aberdeen
Date of application: 07-03-2018
Payment method: Credit Card
Date of acknowledgement: 20-03-2018
Date of debit of fees: 20-03-2018
Date of Biometric letter issued: 20-03-2018
Date of biometric letter received: 24-03-2018
Date Biometrics enrolled: 28-03-2018
Date on Approval letter: 16-04-2018
Date of receipt of approval: 20-04-2018
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Not booked yet
Date of Ceremony: NA
Date of Passport Application: NA
Date of debit of fees: NA
Date Passport to be received: NA

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Chindekha » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:50 am

Chindekha wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:21 pm
Chindekha wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:56 pm
Eligibility criteria: 5yrs Tier 2 + 1 year on PR
Language criteria met: UK Degree
Nationality: Malawian
Payment method: Debit card
Method of application- NCS Westminster(JCAP)
Date of application: 26/03/2018
Payment method: Debit card
Date of receipt by HO/UKVI: 27/03/2018(confirmed on Royalmail tracker)
Date of acknowledgement: 19/04/2018(email)
Date of fees debited: 18/04/2018
Received letter requesting biometrics:21/04/2018
Biometrics done: 21/04/2018
Date of approval: TBA
Date of approval letter received: TBA
Date of ceremony: TBA
Date applied for passports: TBA
Date passports received: TBA

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by blankusernamehere » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:46 am

Eligibility criteria: Tier 2 + 12 months ILR
Language Criteria: National of a majority English speaking country
Nationality : Australian
Method of application: Online + NDRS + JCAP
Date of application: 12 April 2018
Payment method: Credit card
Date of acknowledgement: 13 April 2018
Date of debit of fees: 12 April 2018
Date of Biometric letter issued: 12 April 2018
Date of biometric letter received: 12 April 2018
Date Biometrics enrolled: 13 April 2018
Date of documents received at the HO:
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application: 21 April 2018
Date of debit of fees:
Date Passport to be received:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Chindekha » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:55 pm

Chindekha wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:21 pm
Chindekha wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:56 pm
Eligibility criteria: 5yrs Tier 2 + 1 year on PR
Language criteria met: UK Degree
Nationality: Malawian
Payment method: Debit card
Method of application- NCS Westminster(JCAP)
Date of application: 26/03/2018
Payment method: Debit card
Date of receipt by HO/UKVI: 27/03/2018(confirmed on Royalmail tracker)
Date of acknowledgement: 19/04/2018
Date of fees debited:19/04/2018
Date of letter requesting biometrics: 21/04/2018
Biometrics done: 21/04/2018
Date of approval: TBA
Date of approval letter received: TBA
Date of ceremony: TBA
Date applied for passports: TBA
Date passports received: TBA

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Nomslan » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:58 am

Eligibility criteria: ILR 10+
Language Criteria: Trinity English test
Nationality : Zim
Method of application: NCS
Date of application: 27/03/18
Payment method: Credit card
Date of acknowledgement: 19/4/18
Date of debit of fees: 18/4/18
Date of Biometric letter issued: 18/4/18
Date of biometric letter received: 21/4/18
Date Biometrics enrolled:
Date of documents received at the HO:
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application:
Date of debit of fees:
Date Passport to be received:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by imi121 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:18 pm

Eligibility criteria: ILR 10+1
Language Criteria: UK PhD Degree
Nationality : Pakistani
Method of application: NCS Derby
Date of application: 08/03/18
Payment method: Credit card
Date of acknowledgement: 12/3/18 (Email)
Date of debit of fees: 28/03/18 (Payment didnt went through twice had to send two letters)
Date of Biometric letter issued: 12/3/18
Date of biometric letter received: 15/03/2018
Date Biometrics enrolled: 16/03/2018 (BRP done without payment successful)
Date of documents received at the HO: 12/03/2018
Date on Approval letter: 14/04/2018
Date of receipt of approval: 21/04/2018
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: (Council has not yet received the Certificate, will check later in the week)
Date of Ceremony: TBC
Date of Passport Application: Not Done yet
Date of debit of fees: TBC
Date Passport to be received:TBC
It was really quick on NCS appointment and with late payment.
One for info, i had 9 points on my license, and 6 points in the year following so waited for the last 2 FPN to be over 1 year before applying and it is successful, i think this rule works

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Breev » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:29 pm

Application Timeline
Eligibility criteria: 3 years EEA(PR) - marriage to UK citizen
Language criteria: degree from UK university
Nationality: EEA
Method of application: Online + NDRS
Date of application: 20/04/2018
Payment method: credit card
Date of acknowledgement: 23/04/2018
Date of debit of fees: <pending>
Date of biometric letter issued & received: 20/04/2018
Date biometrics enrolled: 23/04/2018
Date of documents sent: 23/04/2018
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Nomslan » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:54 pm

Eligibility criteria: ILR 10+
Language Criteria: Trinity English test
Nationality : Zim
Method of application: NCS
Date of application: 27/03/18
Payment method: Debit card
Date of acknowledgement: 19/4/18
Date of debit of fees: 18/4/18
Date of Biometric letter issued: 18/4/18
Date of biometric letter received: 21/4/18
Date Biometrics enrolled: 23/04/18
Date of documents received at the HO: 28/3/18 Royal Mail tracking..
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application:
Date of debit of fees:

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Post by BeesNees » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:22 pm

Eligibility criteria: ILR 8 + Married to BC
Language Criteria: Masters Degree
Nationality : Zambian
Method of application: Used A Lawyer
Date of application: 29/03/18
Payment method: Debit card
Date of acknowledgement:
Date of debit of fees:
Date of Biometric letter issued:
Date of biometric letter received:
Date Biometrics enrolled:
Date of documents received at the HO:
Date on Approval letter:
Date of receipt of approval:
Date of receipt of ceremony letter:
Date of Ceremony:
Date of Passport Application:
Date of debit of fees:

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Post by An0nym75 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:00 pm

Eligibility criteria: EU 5yrs + 1yr EEA PR
Language Criteria: IELTS Life Skills B1 + Life in the UK
Nationality: Hungarian
Method of application: Online + NDRS
Date of application: 05/03/2018
Payment method: Card
Date of acknowledgment: 06/03/2018
Date of debit of fees: 06/03/2018
Date of Biometric letter issued: 05/03/2018
Date of biometric letter received: 05/03/2018
Date Biometrics enrolled: 07/03/2018
Date on Approval letter: 16/04/2018
Date of receipt of approval: 20/04/2018
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: 20/04/2018
Date of Ceremony: 14/05/2018
Date of Passport Application: -
Date of debit of fees: -
Date Passport to be received: -

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by PincoPallino » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:07 pm

Eligibility Criteria: EU Citizen 5YR permanent residence +1.5y
Language Criteria: Degree
Nationality : EU
Method of application: Online + NDRS + JCAP
Date of application: 19 Feb 2018
Payment method: Debit card
Date of acknowledgement: 20 Feb 2018
Date of debit of fees: 19 Feb 2018
Date Biometrics enrolled: 21 Feb 2018
Date on Approval letter: 10 April 2018
Date of receipt of approval: 18 April 2018
Date of Ceremony: 5 June 2018
Date of Passport Application: 19 Feb 2018
Date of debit of fees: 9 Mar 2018
Good luck fellow Brits!

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by DocMartin » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:42 am

Application Timeline
Eligibility criteria: EEA 5yr + 1yr ILR, Life in UK, UK post-grad Uni degree
Method of application: Online
Date of receipt by Immigration: 7/3/2018
Date of debit of fees: 8/3/2018
Date of receipt of acknowledgement: 9/3/2018
Date of receipt of approval: 18/4/2018
Date of Ceremony: 30/4/18 private (impossible to find suitable group dates within 3 months)

Problems:
-Immigration/ Royal Mail lost my German ID card whilst returning my documents (special delivery). Causing a nightmare to contact them urgently (almost impossible) to enquire about the whereabouts of it.
-Wrong council location for ceremony on approval letter.

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Re: Naturalisation application processing timelines (only)

Post by Jim_Clark » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:11 am

Thank you to everyone tbat take their time to answer questions on this forum. That was very helpful. Please find below my timeline :

Eligibility criteria: 13 years + 11year ILR + married to British citizen
Language Criteria: Trinity B1+ Life in the UK 
Nationality: Congo
Method of application: online NCS + JCAP
Date of application: 27/02/2018
Receive by Liverpool 02/03/18
Payment method: Debit Card
Date of debit of fees: 27/02/2018
Date of Acknowledgement: E Mail Received on 03/03/2018 with Case Reference No
Bio-metric Letter : Received on 27/02/2018 online
Date Bio-metrics Enrolled: 28/02/2018
Date of Passport Application:01/03/2018
Date of debit of Passport fees: 22/03/2018
Date on Approval letter received:23/4/2018 Dated: 12/03/2018
Date of receipt of ceremony letter: Not booked yet
Date of Ceremony: TBC
Date Passport to be received: TBC

Good luck for those that are still waiting ..

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