Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

[Zaza mum]

Hi Zazamum,
Did you get a call or email from the homeoffice?

No Prettymum I didn't get and email or call from the HO. I called them a lot after the 4th month though. And even wrote them a letter on the 17th of this month which they received on the 20th. But I don't know if they had the time to read it b4 making the decision.

[Zaza mum]

Thank you very much family for congratulating me. Appreciate it. Thanks

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Hi Zazamum,
Did you get a call or email from the homeoffice?

No Prettymum I didn't get and email or call from the HO. I called them a lot after the 4th month though. And even wrote them a letter on the 17th of this month which they received on the 20th. But I don't know if they had the time to read it b4 making the decision.

For every one person who makes phone calls and gets a response, there are hundreds or thousands of EU, Singh, Zambrano, etc people who made phone calls and are still waiting.

It is dangerous to say that your experience represents others.

[mubashir1981]

Me and my wife had biomatric on 16th jan for drv card application. Wife got coa on 21 jan mine still not arrived. Is it normal or should they come together.

Mubashir my friend

Good to here your partner got COA and you waiting for Yours. Take your time it shall be in. You have made good progress. Within 6 months of posting your Zambrano, you’re gonna get a decision. From the date on your wifes COA, just count 3 months and your decision will be with you.

Good man and tnx for trusting all on this board

It is simply false to say that within 6 months of the application, you definitely get a decision.

Plenty of people applied in May, June, July or August 2019. Plenty of people still do not have a decision.

It is not just Zambrano carers. Some EU citizens have also been waiting for more than 6 months.

The big difference between Zambrano carers and EU citizens is that EU citizens are protected under the Withdrawal Agreement.

Zambrano carers are NOT PROTECTED under the Withdrawal Agreement.

Isn't it interesting that no one has (apparently) made this point before?

Snooky is talking about my drf1 application under eu resolution. Not eu settlement

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Snooky is talking about my drf1 application under eu resolution. Not eu settlement

Mubashir,

You have put in an application for a status that simply does not exist after 31 January 2020.

This Friday is the absolute last day for a Zambrano status.

The Withdrawal Agreement (WA) does not recognise the drf1 status.

Zambrano carers are at the mercy of the Home Office after Friday, 31 January 2020.

Just think about it for a second.

After 31 January 2020, how can the Home Office give you a Zambrano carer status, when that status does not exist?

The EU Settlement Scheme will, however, exist after Friday, 31 January 2020.

(By the way, drf1 applications were often not processed in 6 months when they first started. Although it doesn't even matter at this point.)

[mubashir1981]

Snooky is talking about my drf1 application under eu resolution. Not eu settlement

Mubashir,

You have put in an application for a status that simply does not exist after 31 January 2020.

This Friday is the absolute last day for a Zambrano status.

The Withdrawal Agreement (WA) does not recognise the drf1 status.

Zambrano carers are at the mercy of the Home Office after Friday, 31 January 2020.

Just think about it for a second.

After 31 January 2020, how can the Home Office give you a Zambrano carer status, when that status does not exist?

The EU Settlement Scheme will, however, exist after Friday, 31 January 2020.

(By the way, drf1 applications were often not processed in 6 months when they first started. Although it doesn't even matter at this point.)

During transation period which is untill dec 2020. Uk is obliged to follow all eu rule that is also part of withdrawal agreement. So zambrano is eucj ruling which automatically covers does not have to spicify if its not there only thing is after transaction period it will no.longer recognize uless i have convert to uk law.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Zambrano carers,

Ask yourself, who is going to fight for my right to remain in the UK after 31 January 2020?

Not the EU, because they only negotiate for their citizens.

Not the European Court of Justice, because there is no regulation in place for Zambrano carers after 31 January 2020.

Will the UK courts fight for you? Who knows.

If you don't have hard evidence to show that you tried everything you possibly could to avoid not having a status after 31 Jan 2020, you have to go to Court or rely on the good will of the Home Office.

The same Home Office, that waited 3.5 years to let you apply for EU Settlement, told you that you could not apply if you had limited leave to remain (not true), and made you apply via a paper application.

[mubashir1981]

Zambrano carers,

Ask yourself, who is going to fight for my right to remain in the UK after 31 January 2020?

Not the EU, because they only negotiate for their citizens.

Not the European Court of Justice, because there is no regulation in place for Zambrano carers after 31 January 2020.

Will the UK courts fight for you? Who knows.

If you don't have hard evidence to show that you tried everything you possibly could to avoid not having a status after 31 Jan 2020, you have to go to Court or rely on the good will of the Home Office.

The same Home Office, that waited 3.5 years to let you apply for EU Settlement, told you that you could not apply if you had limited leave to remain (not true), and made you apply via a paper application.

Will it affect daily life in the UK?

There will be minimal effect on daily life in the UK, as the period serves to artificially extend the status quo conditions of life as part of the EU by continuing to see European law applied during the period, and the European Court of Justice still holding jurisdiction.

Citizens rights will remain the same as they were while the UK was part of the EU, while the British would still be part of the Horizon and Erasmus schemes. The Irish protocol will not kick in yet as the UK will continue to participate in the EU Customs Union and the Single Market. However, the UK will no longer be represented in EU institutions and decision-making, so it will not have a direct say on what the club does during this period. But it will have to uphold the obligations of a member state for that period.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

During transation period which is untill dec 2020. Uk is obliged to follow all eu rule that is also part of withdrawal agreement. So zambrano is eucj ruling which automatically covers does not have to spicify if its not there only thing is after transaction period it will no.longer recognize uless i have convert to uk law.

NO. The idea that Zambrano carers are automatically covered is wrong. Have you read the Withdrawal Agreement?

The Withdrawal Agreement is a negotiated document. EU rules around freedom of movement apply to EU citizens.

Do you see Part 2 below? It is called "Citizens' Rights" not "Rights of everyone currently covered".

Structure of the negotiated Withdrawal Agreement

• Part 1 Common Provisions (p 6)

• Part 2 Citizens’ Rights (p 16)

• Part 3 Separation Provisions (p 69)

• Part 4 Transition (p 196)

• Part 5 Financial Provisions (p 210)

• Part 6 institutional and Final Provisions (p 268).

• Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland (p 302) and Annexes to Ireland/N.I. protocol (p 331)

• Protocol on Sovereign Base Areas of UK in Cyprus (p 476)

• Protocol on Gibraltar (p 496)

• Annex I on Social Security Coordination (p 505)

• Annex II on Provisions of EU law referred to in Article 41(4) (animal health) (p 529)

• Annex III on Time limits for situations or customs procedures referred to in Article 49(1) (p 531)

• Annex IV on List of networks, information systems and databases referred to in Articles 50, 53, 99 and 100 (p 533)

• Annex V on Euratom (p 547)

• Annex VI on List of administrative cooperation procedures referred to in Article 98 (p 552)

• Annex VII on List of Acts/Provisions referred to in Article 128(6) (p 555)

• Annex VIII on Rules of Procedure of the Joint Committee and Specialised Committees (p 560)

• Annex IX, Rules of Procedure for dispute settlement (p 569)

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Zambrano carers,

Ask yourself, who is going to fight for my right to remain in the UK after 31 January 2020?

Not the EU, because they only negotiate for their citizens.

Not the European Court of Justice, because there is no regulation in place for Zambrano carers after 31 January 2020.

Will the UK courts fight for you? Who knows.

If you don't have hard evidence to show that you tried everything you possibly could to avoid not having a status after 31 Jan 2020, you have to go to Court or rely on the good will of the Home Office.

The same Home Office, that waited 3.5 years to let you apply for EU Settlement, told you that you could not apply if you had limited leave to remain (not true), and made you apply via a paper application.

Will it affect daily life in the UK?

There will be minimal effect on daily life in the UK, as the period serves to artificially extend the status quo conditions of life as part of the EU by continuing to see European law applied during the period, and the European Court of Justice still holding jurisdiction.

Citizens rights will remain the same as they were while the UK was part of the EU, while the British would still be part of the Horizon and Erasmus schemes. The Irish protocol will not kick in yet as the UK will continue to participate in the EU Customs Union and the Single Market. However, the UK will no longer be represented in EU institutions and decision-making, so it will not have a direct say on what the club does during this period. But it will have to uphold the obligations of a member state for that period.

Mubashir,

You are not a citizen of the EU if you are applying as a Zambrano carer. Your quote refers to EU citizens.

[snooky]

Common questions that keep appearing on this forum:

B4 u gave different email for complaint. Where i sent. Public.enqiries one

Question 3: Will the Home Office be able to ignore EU rules after 31 January 2020 and deny Zambrano carers settlement

Zambrano members, please know 31 January 2020 isnt the final day for UK to leave the EU.

31 January 2020 is when the withdrawal agreement kick starts. Within this period there are 2 different dates also setup.

31 December 2020 is set should UK failes to get a trade deal with EU. Thats why Home Office want everyone apply to eu settlment scheme by then.

30 June 2021 is the actual date that UK will close its curtain or doors on EU fee movement and goods, laws and all EU shenanigans. This is possible when we do have a trade deal with EU.

Please please Please, those who havent done Settlement Scheme should do it asap because Minister for security Brandon Lewis has said that when the door is closed and you failed to apply without good reasons, you will be REMOVED

"B4 u gave different email for complaint. Where i sent. Public.enqiries one" I don't think it matters which address you use. Either one will go to the complaints department.


"Zambrano members, please know 31 January 2020 isnt the final day for UK to leave the EU." Oh yes it is. That is why it is called "Brexit Day."

Zambrano carers are not explicitly covered in the Withdrawal Agreement.

The Withdrawal Agreement is about EU citizens. Zambrano carers are not EU citizens.

If you don't believe me, read the Withdrawal Agreement. Do a search for Zambrano carers, or non EU parents or derivative residence.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/ho ... ns-rights/

Groups not covered by the WA
The WA suggests that people caring for minors who are unable to exercise movement rights without their non-EU national parents (‘Chen’ children) are covered. Third country national carers for minors who have not left their Member State of birth (‘Zambrano’ children) are not.

Zambrano_ombudsman

All what you have said is right. No one is arguing.
The fact is that it does not hold again.

You are still reading the 2018 withdrawal agreement which excluded many people with EU Right.

Bear in mind that Home Office was taken to Court for the protection of peoples right under EU to be secured and they lost.

So there was an amendment to the WA and Immigration EU called (Appendix EU). This amended Act by parliament is called HC1919.

HC1919 came into effect on 31 March 2019. This amendment also paved the way for social security amendment for people with EU Derived Rights to be settled

Since then from April 2019 Chen carers and Surinder Singh and others were able to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme.

Zambrano carers were able to apply from the 1 May 2019.

The Political Declaration and the WA now protect all people who have had status under eu before or about to have.

That is why the caseworkers guidance says continuous residence of 5 years in rule 11 and 14 condition 3 and retain right of residence.

Again the WA, Political Declaration and all the caseworkers guidance on Zambrano, Chen and derivatives made it clear that UKs 31 January 2020 is the start of the EU Exit but there are implementation period which are 31 December 2020 if UK fails to get a deal during the implementation period or 30 June 2021 should UK get a deal with EU 27.

Implementation period means from 31 January 2020 nothing is going to change for all those with EU right. You still protect under Article 20 of TFEU or TFU.

Thanks

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Snooky is talking about my drf1 application under eu resolution. Not eu settlement

Mubashir,

You have put in an application for a status that simply does not exist after 31 January 2020.

This Friday is the absolute last day for a Zambrano status.

The Withdrawal Agreement (WA) does not recognise the drf1 status.

Zambrano carers are at the mercy of the Home Office after Friday, 31 January 2020.

Just think about it for a second.

After 31 January 2020, how can the Home Office give you a Zambrano carer status, when that status does not exist?

The EU Settlement Scheme will, however, exist after Friday, 31 January 2020.

(By the way, drf1 applications were often not processed in 6 months when they first started. Although it doesn't even matter at this point.)

During transation period which is untill dec 2020. Uk is obliged to follow all eu rule that is also part of withdrawal agreement. So zambrano is eucj ruling which automatically covers does not have to spicify if its not there only thing is after transaction period it will no.longer recognize uless i have convert to uk law.

The UK will follow EU rules that apply to EUROPEAN citizens.

Zambrano carers are not European citizens.

Zambrano carers are third party nationals.

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-8453

Structure of the negotiated Withdrawal Agreement

Part 1 Common Provisions (p 6)

Part 2 Citizens’ Rights (p 16)

Part 3 Separation Provisions (p 69)

Part 4 Transition (p 196)

Part 5 Financial Provisions (p 210)

Part 6 institutional and Final Provisions (p 268).

Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland (p 302) and Annexes to Ireland/N.I. protocol (p 331)

Protocol on Sovereign Base Areas of UK in Cyprus (p 476)

Protocol on Gibraltar (p 496)

Annex I on Social Security Coordination (p 505)

Annex II on Provisions of EU law referred to in Article 41(4) (animal health) (p 529)

Annex III on Time limits for situations or customs procedures referred to in Article 49(1) (p 531)

Annex IV on List of networks, information systems and databases referred to in Articles 50, 53, 99 and 100 (p 533)

Annex V on Euratom (p 547)

Annex VI on List of administrative cooperation procedures referred to in Article 98 (p 552)

Annex VII on List of Acts/Provisions referred to in Article 128(6) (p 555)

Annex VIII on Rules of Procedure of the Joint Committee and Specialised Committees (p 560)

Annex IX, Rules of Procedure for dispute settlement (p 569)

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Zambrano_ombudsman

All what you have said is right. No one is arguing.
The fact is that it does not hold again.

You are still reading the 2018 withdrawal agreement which excluded many people with EU Right.

Bear in mind that Home Office was taken to Court for the protection of peoples right under EU to be secured and they lost.

So there was an amendment to the WA and Immigration EU called (Appendix EU). This amended Act by parliament is called HC1919.

HC1919 came into effect on 31 March 2019. This amendment also paved the way for social security amendment for people with EU Derived Rights to be settled

Since then from April 2019 Chen carers and Surinder Singh and others were able to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme.

Zambrano carers were able to apply from the 1 May 2019.

The Political Declaration and the WA now protect all people who have had status under eu before or about to have.

That is why the caseworkers guidance says continuous residence of 5 years in rule 11 and 14 condition 3 and retain right of residence.

Again the WA, Political Declaration and all the caseworkers guidance on Zambrano, Chen and derivatives made it clear that UKs 31 January 2020 is the start of the EU Exit but there are implementation period which are 31 December 2020 if UK fails to get a deal during the implementation period or 30 June 2021 should UK get a deal with EU 27.

Implementation period means from 31 January 2020 nothing is going to change for all those with EU right. You still protect under Article 20 of TFEU or TFU.

Thanks

If you achieve status by 31 January 2020, you retain that status.

Zambrano carers who either

• have not applied by 31 January 2020 or

• have applied but are still waiting

Are not currently protected by anything in the Withdrawal Agreement.

The matter is very simple. Just quote the part of the Withdrawal Agreement that covers Zambrano carers.

The EU never negotiated for Zambrano carers in the WA. The EU negotiated for people who had status before the UK left the EU - before Brexit Day (31 January 2020).

The UK wants to reduce migration. They would not include provision for Zambrano carers in the WA.

This version of the UK's EU Withdrawal Agreement was published Monday, July 8, 2019, months after HC1919
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-8453

[mubashir1981]

Zambrano_ombudsman

All what you have said is right. No one is arguing.
The fact is that it does not hold again.

You are still reading the 2018 withdrawal agreement which excluded many people with EU Right.

Bear in mind that Home Office was taken to Court for the protection of peoples right under EU to be secured and they lost.

So there was an amendment to the WA and Immigration EU called (Appendix EU). This amended Act by parliament is called HC1919.

HC1919 came into effect on 31 March 2019. This amendment also paved the way for social security amendment for people with EU Derived Rights to be settled

Since then from April 2019 Chen carers and Surinder Singh and others were able to apply to the EU Settlement Scheme.

Zambrano carers were able to apply from the 1 May 2019.

The Political Declaration and the WA now protect all people who have had status under eu before or about to have.

That is why the caseworkers guidance says continuous residence of 5 years in rule 11 and 14 condition 3 and retain right of residence.

Again the WA, Political Declaration and all the caseworkers guidance on Zambrano, Chen and derivatives made it clear that UKs 31 January 2020 is the start of the EU Exit but there are implementation period which are 31 December 2020 if UK fails to get a deal during the implementation period or 30 June 2021 should UK get a deal with EU 27.

Implementation period means from 31 January 2020 nothing is going to change for all those with EU right. You still protect under Article 20 of TFEU or TFU.

Thanks

If you achieve status by 31 January 2020, you retain that status.

Zambrano carers who either

• have not applied by 31 January 2020 or

• have applied but are still waiting

Are not currently protected by anything in the Withdrawal Agreement.

The matter is very simple. Just quote the part of the Withdrawal Agreement that covers Zambrano carers.

The EU never negotiated for Zambrano carers in the WA. The EU negotiated for people who had status before the UK left the EU - before Brexit Day (31 January 2020).

The UK wants to reduce migration. They would not include provision for Zambrano carers in the WA.

This version of the UK's EU Withdrawal Agreement was published Monday, July 8, 2019, months after HC1919
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-8453

Well i have applied both. Under eu regulations and eu settlement. Let see. I appied drf1 earlier but came as rejected as i didnt have valid passports took while to renew them. Already made complaint for eu settlement application over 5 month now. Nothing else i can do now can i?

[snooky]

Snooky is talking about my drf1 application under eu resolution. Not eu settlement

Mubashir,

You have put in an application for a status that simply does not exist after 31 January 2020.

This Friday is the absolute last day for a Zambrano status.

The Withdrawal Agreement (WA) does not recognise the drf1 status.

Zambrano carers are at the mercy of the Home Office after Friday, 31 January 2020.

Just think about it for a second.

After 31 January 2020, how can the Home Office give you a Zambrano carer status, when that status does not exist?

The EU Settlement Scheme will, however, exist after Friday, 31 January 2020.

(By the way, drf1 applications were often not processed in 6 months when they first started. Although it doesn't even matter at this point.)

During transation period which is untill dec 2020. Uk is obliged to follow all eu rule that is also part of withdrawal agreement. So zambrano is eucj ruling which automatically covers does not have to spicify if its not there only thing is after transaction period it will no.longer recognize uless i have convert to uk law.

The UK will follow EU rules that apply to EUROPEAN citizens.

Zambrano carers are not European citizens.

Zambrano carers are third party nationals.

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk ... y/CBP-8453

Structure of the negotiated Withdrawal Agreement

Part 1 Common Provisions (p 6)

Part 2 Citizens’ Rights (p 16)

Part 3 Separation Provisions (p 69)

Part 4 Transition (p 196)

Part 5 Financial Provisions (p 210)

Part 6 institutional and Final Provisions (p 268).

Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland (p 302) and Annexes to Ireland/N.I. protocol (p 331)

Protocol on Sovereign Base Areas of UK in Cyprus (p 476)

Protocol on Gibraltar (p 496)

Annex I on Social Security Coordination (p 505)

Annex II on Provisions of EU law referred to in Article 41(4) (animal health) (p 529)

Annex III on Time limits for situations or customs procedures referred to in Article 49(1) (p 531)

Annex IV on List of networks, information systems and databases referred to in Articles 50, 53, 99 and 100 (p 533)

Annex V on Euratom (p 547)

Annex VI on List of administrative cooperation procedures referred to in Article 98 (p 552)

Annex VII on List of Acts/Provisions referred to in Article 128(6) (p 555)

Annex VIII on Rules of Procedure of the Joint Committee and Specialised Committees (p 560)

Annex IX, Rules of Procedure for dispute settlement (p 569)

Please Zambrano ombudsman, understand that there has been amendments on these things and even sex change people have been included during October -November update.

The link you added is a link for reading to 2018 withdrawal agreement to parliament for consideration to make changes

IT IS A DOCUMENTED FACT THAT EEA APPLICATION WILL STILL BE HONOURED BY EU PERMINANT MIGRATION TEAM UNTIL 31 December 2020 or 30 June 2021. No Zambrano right would be abused or invalid during these period. The Home Office has said all people should protect their status by switching to Settlement Scheme.

What the law says is come 30 June 2021 which is the positive Declaration date for UK to close its doors finally, Home Office will never issue any form of EU residence cards again.

Those who already got them will still be protected under the article 1 and 2 of the 2019 withdrawal agreement signed by Boris Johnson.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Well i have applied both. Under eu regulations and eu settlement. Let see. I appied drf1 earlier but came as rejected as i didnt have valid passports took while to renew them. Already made complaint for eu settlement application over 5 month now. Nothing else i can do now can i?

I agree. Nothing else can be done.

Europeans are already being turned away at the UK airports by the Border Agency, in clear violation of EU Freedom of Movement. Not many, but it shouldn't happen.

It is clear that the Home Office should give Zambrano carers settled status. Their actions over the past 8 months suggest they are looking for ways not to grant settled status.

I do not trust any guidance put out by the Home Office. We have seen that it can be wrong. Anyway, Parliament can just change any UK rules overnight.

This Parliament recently rejected a proposed amendment to allow EU citizens to appeal against Home Office decisions on EU settlement.

The only thing to trust is the EU contract. And Zambrano carers are missing from this contract, the Withdrawal Agreement.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

IT IS A DOCUMENTED FACT THAT EEA APPLICATION WILL STILL BE HONOURED BY EU PERMINANT MIGRATION TEAM UNTIL 31 December 2020 or 30 June 2021. No Zambrano right would be abused or invalid during these period. The Home Office has said all people should protect their status by switching to Settlement Scheme.

Snooky,

You appear confident the Home Office will allow Zambrano carers to apply until 31 December 2020 or 30 June 2021.

You are also confident the Home Office will apply the same rules after 31 January 2020 that they apply today.

Where is your evidence? UK Immigration rules? Please be aware that Parliament can update the UK Immigration rules whenever it pleases.

From my research, it appears the Withdrawal Agreement was not updated to include Zambrano carers. And the Withdrawal Agreement is the only reliable agreement after this Friday.

The Home Office should do the right thing after 31 January 2020. But, we shouldn't pretend that the Home Office will do the right thing by each and every Zambrano carer. Some carers may lose and be deported.

For that reason, Zambrano carers should be careful and be aware that things could go wrong after 31 Jan 2020. Hopefully, everything will be fine.

[mubashir1981]

IT IS A DOCUMENTED FACT THAT EEA APPLICATION WILL STILL BE HONOURED BY EU PERMINANT MIGRATION TEAM UNTIL 31 December 2020 or 30 June 2021. No Zambrano right would be abused or invalid during these period. The Home Office has said all people should protect their status by switching to Settlement Scheme.

Snooky,

You appear confident the Home Office will allow Zambrano carers to apply until 31 December 2020 or 30 June 2021.

You are also confident the Home Office will apply the same rules after 31 January 2020 that they apply today.

Where is your evidence? UK Immigration rules? Please be aware that Parliament can update the UK Immigration rules whenever it pleases.

From my research, it appears the Withdrawal Agreement was not updated to include Zambrano carers. And the Withdrawal Agreement is the only reliable agreement after this Friday.

The Home Office should do the right thing after 31 January 2020. But, we shouldn't pretend that the Home Office will do the right thing by each and every Zambrano carer. Some carers may lose and be deported.

For that reason, Zambrano carers should be careful and be aware that things could go wrong after 31 Jan 2020. Hopefully, everything will be fine.

Snooky must be sleeping this time but i am sure he will reply soon.
So if u r correct then after 31st jan home office should remove drf1 application form from there website. Wht u say?

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

19 October 2019 Agreement on the withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ssible.pdf

If you try to search Withdrawal Agreement for

• "Zambrano" = zero results

• "Chen" = zero results

• "Singh" = zero results

• "immigration" = 1 result

• "derivative" = zero results

Clearly, the 19 October 2019 Withdrawal Agreement does not address Zambrano carers or even immigration.

Let's look at the Political Declaration:

Revised text of the Political Declaration setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom as agreed at negotiators’ level on 17 October 2019, to replace the one published in OJ C 66I of 19.2.2019.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/b ... ration.pdf

If you try to search the Political Declaration for:

• "Zambrano" = zero results

• "Chen" = zero results

• "Singh" = zero results

• "immigration" = 1 result

• "derivative" = zero results

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Snooky must be sleeping this time but i am sure he will reply soon.
So if u r correct then after 31st jan home office should remove drf1 application form from there website. Wht u say?

You think Snooky is a guy? Interesting.

The same Home Office that tells people they can't be Zambrano carers and have limited leave to remain? Save your energy.

The Home Office should have issued a press release to answer basic questions.

How are we at this place? It has been almost four years. No one really knows what will happen over the next 11 months. Everyone should hope for the best, but mentally and financially prepare for Court by preparing clear and compelling evidence.

[mubashir1981]

19 October 2019 Agreement on the withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ssible.pdf

If you try to search Withdrawal Agreement for

• "Zambrano" = zero results

• "Chen" = zero results

• "Singh" = zero results

• "immigration" = 1 result

• "derivative" = zero results

Clearly, the 19 October 2019 Withdrawal Agreement does not address Zambrano carers or even immigration.

Let's look at the Political Declaration:

Revised text of the Political Declaration setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom as agreed at negotiators’ level on 17 October 2019, to replace the one published in OJ C 66I of 19.2.2019.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/b ... ration.pdf

If you try to search the Political Declaration for:

• "Zambrano" = zero results

• "Chen" = zero results

• "Singh" = zero results

• "immigration" = 1 result

• "derivative" = zero results

When i say i have master degree then it is obvious that i also pass bachular a levels gcse so similarly whe it says that eu cort court jurisdiction will continue to apply so they dont have to mention each and every thing this eu court rulesing that a member of state csnnot remove primary carer where citizen of that state also have to leave if theey do that will agaist eu court which they r obliged to spply until dec 2020.

[Billyosa]

Snooky must be sleeping this time but i am sure he will reply soon.
So if u r correct then after 31st jan home office should remove drf1 application form from there website. Wht u say?

You think Snooky is a guy? Interesting.

The same Home Office that tells people they can't be Zambrano carers and have limited leave to remain? Save your energy.

The Home Office should have issued a press release to answer basic questions.

How are we at this place? It has been almost four years. No one really knows what will happen over the next 11 months. Everyone should hope for the best, but mentally and financially prepare for Court by preparing clear and compelling evidence.

Why this negativity ? chill man...
Everything will be normal until at least 31/12/20...
Stop discouraging people here, what are you going to achieve with this? This thread is for positivity and and timeliness on Zambrano Settled/presettled applicants..

[Chris90]

I see the point zambrano ombudsman making, scary as it sounds for zambrano carers it's the truth. The withdrawal agreement does not cover us, it's a treaty that do not specify anything about zambrano future, however UK still should be obliged to followed all eu laws and regulations which is where we have some arguments, Nowhere else.

I would encourage everyone who have not had a decision to ring every day and complain how hard it is and complain formally, simple as it sounds there is not much we can do besides that

Once again I refuse to believe it takes 6 months to process an application backlog or not. Mines been 2 months and I think that is excessive..

Best wishes

[mubashir1981]

I see the point zambrano ombudsman making, scary as it sounds for zambrano carers it's the truth. The withdrawal agreement does not cover us, it's a treaty that do not specify anything about zambrano future, however UK still should be obliged to followed all eu laws and regulations which is where we have some arguments, Nowhere else.

I would encourage everyone who have not had a decision to ring every day and complain how hard it is and complain formally, simple as it sounds there is not much we can do besides that

Once again I refuse to believe it takes 6 months to process an application backlog or not. Mines been 2 months and I think that is excessive..

Best wishes

We will know it in few days time. Homeoffice should remove drf1 form if that is the case. They update there website very promptly.

[Chris90]

I think they will leave it up on their website however I don't believe they will grant. I do hope you get your decision soon, I'm also waiting.

Safe to say at the end of the transition period, zambrano will be gone for good in the UK,

I have zero trust in home office and I have good reasons, zambrano right is automatic and home office just need to confirm it and issue a bio card, why do they need 6 months for. They been try to hold out on us for sometime and I don't believe they will be easier on us because we in the settlement scheme.. They did not include us initially and when they did they gave us a paper form that is almost identical to the online process. We have 11 months to be up their backs

Best wishes