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They just said 'one of the Borderline jobs'. But I am guessing (speculating actually looking at the examples of job tasks in the UKBA guidance) that they've gone for Personal Assistants/Secretaries. I, on the other hand, think that my job can fit under 'Public Relations Officer/Publicity Assistant'. The trouble is that a specialist job like Equality and Diversity is never going to feature on the UKBA list, so we have to find the job that matches the best!Greenie wrote:Has your employer told you which job they have identified in the relevent code of practice as matching yours?
Here's what they said to me:Greenie wrote:Has your employer told you which job they have identified in the relevent code of practice as matching yours?
Thank you so much for your reply. I am doing that - I have another meeting with HR tomorrow. But judging from their emails, I think it'll be hard to convince them. Even my salary matches NQF Level 4 salary, so it's silly that they are qualifying it as NQF Level3/Borderline. I was just wondering what I should do if I can't get them to agree with me??Greenie wrote:you need to get them to tell you exactly which job they have identified as the one that most closely matches yours. If you disagree with them and have identified one that is more appropriate then suggest this to them and see what they say.
Yes - do you think that should be my next step?? I am not a member of the union yet but yes we do have one.Greenie wrote:do you have a union?
asiyaislam wrote:Yes - do you think that should be my next step?? I am not a member of the union yet but yes we do have one.Greenie wrote:do you have a union?
Shamino wrote:Where can I find information on NQF levels and SOC details?
I need to have a read over the general requirements for NQF, given that I'm a researcher, I don't know which level I would be in?
Cheers
Yes the description doesn't have to match exactly. Is the real issue that they are not willing to sponsor you? As suggested before you should seek advice from your trade union as this is a dispute between you and your employer.asiyaislam wrote:UPDATE:
My employer has now told me that my job does not match ANY of the SOC codes sufficiently, so they can't sponsor me.
I work as Equality and Diversity Assistant and a lot of my work is around communications, publicity and promotions. I manage a blog and website and write reports and briefings. So I thought I could match SOC code for PR Officers/Publicity Assistants. But HR said that I don't match it 'sufficiently'. I asked them if they had identified another SOC code that matched my job and they said no.
My understanding was that the UKBA expects employers to match jobs to the 'most relevant' or 'most appropriate' SOC code and that a job would not necessarily match UKBA's example job 100%. So if my job matches the example job 70-80%, I should be eligible for sponsorship. Is this right?asiyaislam wrote:Yes - do you think that should be my next step?? I am not a member of the union yet but yes we do have one.Greenie wrote:do you have a union?
Greenie wrote:Yes the description doesn't have to match exactly. Is the real issue that they are not willing to sponsor you? As suggested before you should seek advice from your trade union as this is a dispute between you and your employer.asiyaislam wrote:UPDATE:
My employer has now told me that my job does not match ANY of the SOC codes sufficiently, so they can't sponsor me.
I work as Equality and Diversity Assistant and a lot of my work is around communications, publicity and promotions. I manage a blog and website and write reports and briefings. So I thought I could match SOC code for PR Officers/Publicity Assistants. But HR said that I don't match it 'sufficiently'. I asked them if they had identified another SOC code that matched my job and they said no.
My understanding was that the UKBA expects employers to match jobs to the 'most relevant' or 'most appropriate' SOC code and that a job would not necessarily match UKBA's example job 100%. So if my job matches the example job 70-80%, I should be eligible for sponsorship. Is this right?asiyaislam wrote:Yes - do you think that should be my next step?? I am not a member of the union yet but yes we do have one.Greenie wrote:do you have a union?
If Asiyaislam has current leave in the PSW category when he applies for leave in the T2G category then the sponsor is exempt from carrying out a RLMT. (see paragraph 86 in the T2 policy guidance)johnjkjk wrote:Has a rlmt for your job been carried out yet?
If it has, the job centre assigns an soc code automatically. You could use this to argue that a particular code is applicable.
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My job is definitely above graduate level. It's quite specialist too, it requires the postholder to have understanding of equality and diversity legislation.johnjkjk wrote:The suitable soc has to be selected. In my case, my code is professionals not elsewhere classified: there is always a code one can apply.
Working on the premise that your employer is claiming it to be difficult to find a suitable code, is an excuse for being reluctant to sponsor in the first place, you must examine why they don't want to sponsor you.
It seems that this is because they are not fully certain of the job level and are hiding behind soc. Could you please share your job description for us to comment? You can pm me.