Another HSMP Rejection Plz Advice

sherlypk · Post by **sherlypk** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:05 pm

Hi to all !

I Applied from : Pakistan
Qualification : BCS+MCS
Profession : IT(Software Development)
Work Expereice : 4.3 yrs (1 yr as Project Manager-from Jan2003 to todate)
Date Applied : March 18 2004

After long wait, finally got the letter from HO but unfortunately it was not what everyone wishes.

They rejected my application on the basis that

"We are not satisified that your previous work experience involved 1 yr senior level work as described in the published guidance. From the evidence provided we cannot confirm what duties and responsibilities were carried out in the position of Project Manager and thus we cannot fully asses that it was of a senior / specialist level."

On the other hand I have mentioned clearly in my Expereince Letter about the responsibilities I carried out as a Project Manager and start and end date of this designation.

One thing more they gave 15 points in qualification and wrote Master Of Arts is not equivalent to British Masters although I mentioned Masters in Computers Science.

Please suggest what to do .? Should I appeal against it and how can one appeal.

I am looking forward for all of the senior members precious advice.

Regards ,

Sherly

Maira · Post by **Maira** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:54 pm

Hello Sherly,
Seems that u case is quite strong and but they still rejected,
Strange..........Have u claim points for the salary ...?

Also its seems that u got letter from them today, can u tell
us at what date they have posted the letter, so that we can analyze what date of application they are now processing.

Thanks,
Maira

simar · Post by **simar** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:57 am

sherlypk,
I wonder how can u become a program manager in 3 years?? I am also in IT field. Deals with customers & travel abroad in Europe /America at onsite. Have 6 years of IT experience, as currently role is of technical leader to lead small team size of 4-5 people. (Claim only 25 points in exp) .
Program manager in my company takes care of 30-40 people & do all sort of proposal writing/ people management/ man month estimations (cocomo /Delphi wide band style). Did you already start doing such things?

simar

elzeem · Post by **elzeem** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:01 am

hi
im afraied
because im not determine im senior or specialist position
im work 6 years in IT field as an
operator
technical support
LAN manager
network manager
computer instractor
IT instractor
and letter from bill gates acknowldge me as an leader expert in windows 2000 technology
can i get reject that im not determine im senior or specialist position even i have this experince and 18 certificates from microsoft and cisco and auc and liunix
plz tell me

raoms · Post by **raoms** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:29 am

yes I think simar is right. For a project manager you have to show that at least a dozen people work under you. I think you should have quoted your post as project leader saying that you were senior prog before and later promoted to project leader to lead a team of 4-5 people. Also it is seen that the salary also plays its part while defining a senior level.

ajilani · Post by **ajilani** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:09 am

Did the check the reference no. on a rejection letter? Is this is the same which they allot you on receipt of your application? I think they sent you a wrong letter. You already MCS and they are telling that you have Master degree in Arts, which is totally different. I suggest you to send an email to HSMP peoples and talk them with the reference to your reference no. and clarify your qualification and experience points.

Regards,
Azher

sherlypk · Post by **sherlypk** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:08 am

The Reference # is correct Ajilani but they did a mistake in letter I guess.

Simar, you are right that it is too early to become a Project Manager but it depends on company to company and moreover I got the oppurtunity early in my career.

I was just short of few hundred pounds that's why didn't claim the Salary Point and totally bank upon the Experience to qualify.

I am right now managing ten people teams and involved in making project proposal, time lines and effort estimates.

Please advice what to do next .?

raoms · Post by **raoms** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:34 am

did you apply on your own / through consultant ?

please let us know your ref. no.[you can tell us the first 4 digits only] this will help us to know where HO team has reached as on today.

raoms · Post by **raoms** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:36 am

did you apply on your own / through consultant ?

please let us know your ref. no.[you can tell us the first 4 digits only] this will help us to know where HO team has reached as on today.

sherlypk · Post by **sherlypk** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:21 am

I applied my self. My Application Ref# is 01492X. I recieved a reply on
July 10 2004.

I am still waiting to recieve a reply from senior members regarding Appeal.

Please suggest. I am desparately waiting .

Regards ,

Sherly

Maira · Post by **Maira** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:49 am

You received a reply on 10 March.Can u tell u what was posted
date of your reply.

Thanks,
Maira

Mini · Post by **Mini** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 3:11 pm

sherlypk,
HO is very finicky about giving senior/specialist level points. To prove your senior level exp one should ideally send specially prepared reference letters from all companies worked for during the senior level exp period stating designation, reporting to, company hierarchy(so that they can determine your level), role & responsibilities wherein you should mention the no of people you were technically/administratively heading and also size of the company (turnover if you like).

This should be on company letter head and signed by appropriate signatory with all contact info for the signatory to allow them to take confirmations if they like.

You may need to get this done and put up the application again. I do not think that the info in your reference letter is enough hence appeal does not make sense for you.

sherlypk · Post by **sherlypk** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:05 pm

Mini ,

I am working with the same company for last 3 yrs and as mentioned earlier I was promoted to Project Manager Designation in Jan 2003.

I have mentioned in my Experience Letter, strength of company in terms of number of people, the person I am reporting to , my responsibilities and and when I started working on this designation. All this in company letter head and letter was signed by HR Manager.

Please inform whether I missed something in my letter and what other information should have included in the letter.

Sherly

fomar · Post by **fomar** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:58 am

sherlypk,

It is better for us to send the contents of your work experience letter in order to give a wide chance for judging

Mini · Post by **Mini** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:27 am

sherlypk,
maybe you should do as fomar says.

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