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stupid geographic UK question with simple law enquriy.

Post by 2uk » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:37 am

UK is England , Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland . Does it mean that all Immigration rules that apply to the UK - such as info at workingintheuk.gov.uk - actually apply for all these countries.

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Post by ppron747 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:39 am

Yes...
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Post by antontony » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:25 pm

Exceprt for Channel Islands and Isle of Man- those have their own immigration rules.

Some do not support the normal UK mainland based immigrationm programmes, such as the Channel Islands do not support HSMP etc.

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Post by 2uk » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:39 pm

thanks :D

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Post by JAJ » Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:39 pm

antontony wrote:Exceprt for Channel Islands and Isle of Man- those have their own immigration rules.
However the Channel Islands and Isle of Man are not constitutionally a part of the United Kingdom, although they are British dependencies.

The immigration rules in the Islands are modelled on those of the UK but are not the same. And residence in the Islands does not always count for UK immigration purposes, and vice versa.

In general UK immigration laws apply across the United Kingdom. However there are some "local" schemes within the UK framework, notably the "Fresh Talent Scotland" initiative.

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Post by Dawie » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:42 am

It would also be very difficult to enforce vastly different immigration laws for each of the home countries (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) without putting up some kind of physical border with immigration controls between them. As you can imagine, this would be highly unpopular with the local populations. Imagine needing your passport to travel from London to Edinburgh.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by JAJ » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:13 pm

Dawie wrote:It would also be very difficult to enforce vastly different immigration laws for each of the home countries (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) without putting up some kind of physical border with immigration controls between them.
That's true, but at the same time regionally based migration schemes are used in Australia or Canada. The basic premise of these schemes is to encourage people to settle in regional areas and for example, criteria for sponsorship by an employer or relatives may be more lenient.

There is no need for "physical border controls" because in the majority of cases, people will be inclined to settle where a job or family support is located. While some may of course move later on, there is a reasonable long term retention factor.

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Post by 2uk » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:50 pm

Does anybody know about any privileges that a person can get for immigrations purposes to UK if that persons was living on a work permit in Bermud a. ?

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Post by ppron747 » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:01 pm

I doubt that there would be any, would there? Although Bermuda is a British Overseas Territory, its immigration legislation is entirely separate from that of the UK.

The only possibility that comes to mind is to naturalise as a British Overseas Territories citizen, and then to follow that up with an application for registration as a British citizen.

But it isn't likely to be a short campaign as the person would need (inter alia) to be free of time limits on their stay in Bermuda in order to apply for naturalisation - something which the Bermudian authorities are not keen on granting, even after many years on a work / residence permit....
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Post by 2uk » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:35 pm

[quote="ppron747"] I doubt that there would be any, would there? Although Bermuda is a British Overseas Territory, its immigration legislation is entirely separate from that of the UK.

The only possibility that comes to mind is to naturalise as a British Overseas Territories citizen, and then to follow that up with an application for registration as a British citizen.

But it isn't likely to be a short campaign as the person would need (inter alia) to be free of time limits on their stay in Bermuda in order to apply for naturalisation - something which the Bermudian authorities are not keen on granting, even after many years on a work / residence permit.... [/quote]

I know , for naturalization u gotta marry a local one. the only way.

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