Getting married and claiming benefits

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:40 am

Hi
This is my first post hear so hi to everyone

First off I am a UK citizen and born and bread in this country

My question is
If I married a girl from Ukraine
1. Can she get a UK passport
2. can she claim benefits

Thanks
James

Post by **Casa** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:03 am

If you meet all the regulations for a spouse visa (including you as the sponsor having a minimum annual salary of £18,600) your wife wouldn't be able to apply for permanent residence (ILR) for 5 years. During this time she wouldn't be entitled to claim Public Funds. In fact in the spouse visa application you have to prove that you will be able to support yourselves for the 5 year probationary period without claiming Public Funds.
She needs to have permanent residence before she can apply for British Citizenship...and then if BC is granted, a British passport.

wiggsy · Post by **wiggsy** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:40 pm

alternatively, look into the EEA Route - where the BC is expected to work in an eu state before returning with the rights of an EEA National ...

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:01 am

Casa wrote:If you meet all the regulations for a spouse visa (including you as the sponsor having a minimum annual salary of £18,600) your wife wouldn't be able to apply for permanent residence (ILR) for 5 years. During this time she wouldn't be entitled to claim Public Funds. In fact in the spouse visa application you have to prove that you will be able to support yourselves for the 5 year probationary period without claiming Public Funds.
She needs to have permanent residence before she can apply for British Citizenship...and then if BC is granted, a British passport.

Thanks for your input

what is a spouse visa?

And what if you earn less then £18,600 pa and how are you supposed to prove it?

If she is not entitled to claim pubic funds could we not claim them together
I mean I know you can claim dole for not just your self but for you and your partner together
But I know very little about this how the JSA works

And with or without this spouse visa thing
could she get an NI number and work in the UK?

Post by **Casa** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:50 am

I suggest you do a bit of research and then come back for clarification.
Here's the link to information on a spouse visa:
http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-imm ... oposed-cp/

If you're not earning at least £18,600 and don't have substantial savings over £16,000, the visa will be refused. How do you prove earnings? With pay slips and bank statements.

Your answer to 'claiming dole for you and your partner'...the answer is no. She wouldn't be included.
Without a spouse visa if she wanted to work in the UK she would need to apply for a Work Visa...assuming that she qualifies for one of the work categories.

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:24 am

Casa wrote: http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-imm ... oposed-cp/
.

that link dose not work

HTTP STATUS 502 - Bad Gateway
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.

Please do post more information on spouse visas

Post by **Greenie** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:43 am

The link works fine for me.

Post by **vinny** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:49 am

Sometimes, the website may be down due to excessive demands.

Post by **Casa** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:26 pm

Just checked the link and it works fine for me too.

Post by **CR001** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:54 pm

Link works fine for me too, UKBA page came up almost instantly

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:51 am

ow yes seams to be working now thanks

The link dose not explain whether or not she can work in the UK

On the page- Financial requirement; quotes
"You will be required to provide documents to show that you can meet the financial requirement"
What documents are these?

A point I would like to make is
It quotes
"you must meet the English language requirement."
The amount of immigrants in the UK that dont speak a word of English is beyond beggars belief
Surely there must be some floors and loop holes in the system that you could get around all this

The first line quotes
"This section explains whether and how you can come to the UK if you are the fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner of a British citizen or a person settled here"
As I know very little about the whole thing
Im going to have to start a new topic about something ells in another part of this forum

Post by **Casa** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:57 am

batista230 wrote:ow yes seams to be working now thanks

The link dose not explain whether or not she can work in the UK
No. Not until you're married and your wife has been granted a spouse visa

On the page- Financial requirement; quotes
"You will be required to provide documents to show that you can meet the financial requirement"
What documents are these? You've already been told - bank statements and payslips/P6o

A point I would like to make is
It quotes
"you must meet the English language requirement."
The amount of immigrants in the UK that dont speak a word of English is beyond beggars belief
Surely there must be some floors and loop holes in the system that you could get around all this - No way to avoid this. The language test is mandatory

The first line quotes
"This section explains whether and how you can come to the UK if you are the fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner of a British citizen or a person settled here" If you're British and resident in the UK, you're settled here
As I know very little about the whole thing
Im going to have to start a new topic about something ells in another part of this forum

As you appear to be completely lost, I suggest you seek advise from a legal advise for help with your application. There's only so much information that can be given on an open forum. Have you actually met in person the girl you're intending to marry?

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:10 pm

Casa wrote:
batista230 wrote:ow yes seams to be working now thanks

The link dose not explain whether or not she can work in the UK
No. Not until you're married and your wife has been granted a spouse visa
So are you saying she can legally work hear in the UK once she has a spouse visa?
And if so how would she obtain an N.I number

On the page- Financial requirement; quotes
"You will be required to provide documents to show that you can meet the financial requirement"
What documents are these? You've already been told - bank statements and payslips/P6o

A point I would like to make is
It quotes
"you must meet the English language requirement."
The amount of immigrants in the UK that dont speak a word of English is beyond beggars belief
Surely there must be some floors and loop holes in the system that you could get around all this - No way to avoid this. The language test is mandatory

The first line quotes
"This section explains whether and how you can come to the UK if you are the fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner of a British citizen or a person settled here" If you're British and resident in the UK, you're settled here
As I know very little about the whole thing
Im going to have to start a new topic about something ells in another part of this forum
As you appear to be completely lost, I suggest you seek advise from a legal advise for help with your application. There's only so much information that can be given on an open forum. Have you actually met in person the girl you're intending to marry?
I just though a forum as impact like this one would be a good place to start
And no we have never met face to face
But if it is not her then it is a good chance it would be someone ells

Thanks
Batista230

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:19 pm

Some of you may or may of not seen my other post
But I have a girl from Ukraine who says she can get a visa into the UK from her travel agents that would last her 2-3 weeks
She says I need to help her with the cost of this hummmm Confused

She said she is going to get a price from the travel agents tomorrow
I cant see it being a lot of money myself but my question is how much should it rely cost; as I have read up on a lot of 'Russian bride' scams

Thanks
Batista230

and it would be better if you continued your discussion in that thread, as this one does not have sufficient information.

Post by **Casa** » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:24 am

There is no 2-3 week visitor visa. You appear to be on the road to disaster.

Jaymac · Post by **Jaymac** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:31 am

Sounds like you're being milked for all you're worth...

Post by **Greenie** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:55 am

Either that or he is a bit of a time waster...

Post by **Casa** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:10 pm

Greenie I think this may give us a clue:
"And no we have never met face to face
But if it is not her then it is a good chance it would be someone ells"

batista230 · Post by **batista230** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:53 pm

yes you are probably right
just looked at the UK border agency site and it say short visitors visa are for 6 months
I meet this girl (like a few other) from the Ukraine date web site

looked again at the UBA site and it quotes a 6 month visa for 78 quid

that seam to be much money

ID29 · Post by **ID29** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:46 am

batista

A visitor visa lasts for a maximum of 6 months. Its the same visa someone would obtain if they were coming to the UK for a short holiday. But one of the conditions of these visas is the applicant MUST intend to return home after their visit. If the UKBA even suspects the person is coming here for any reason other than to visit, they will be refused a visa or turned away at the border.

And if you think a visitor visa is expensive, you'll be shocked by the prices for settlement visas... often several hundred pounds each time you apply and sometimes even more than that. To achieve the goal of a British passport will cost you a LOT of money, several applications and several years to see everything through to the end. If you need to use a lawyer, you can double the cost. As the sponsor you'll be expected to meet the minimum income requirement of £18,600 a year, or have considerable savings. There are no loopholes or shortcuts. It's a long, difficult and very expensive process.

Lastly, if you and your girl have never met, its HIGHLY unlikely they will grant her a fiancée visa anyway.

Sorry to be so negative but I'm not sure you realise what trouble awaits you,

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Getting married and claiming benefits

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