British Citizenship - The sequence

[palasmy]

Hi All,

Me and my family are due to apply for our citizenship any time from now.

Me, my wife and our daughter (5) are all on ILR since 6th January 2012. I understand that our daughter can be registered as a BC without having to go through the naturalisation process like us. The questions I have is that,
when I apply for my daughter's registration, should I have to send the original passport of either mine or my wife? I intend to use the NCS service for my joint application with my wife and don't want to get stuck with our application because our passports are with home office for our child's registration processing.

Thanks

[CR001]

they are both the similar processes just different names and children under 18 dont attend ceremony. you can apply for all three at ncs and keep your originals.

[John]

they are both the similar processes just different names and children under 18 dont attend ceremony

I disagree. I think it is better to say that children do not have to attend the Citizenship Ceremony, along with their parents. However they can attend.

My own step-daughter then aged 9 attended the Citizenship Ceremony and even now nearly 9 years later, she still clearly remembers being handed her Certificate of Registration by the Lord Mayor! An important event in her life, one I am very pleased she attended.

[CR001]

agree john, should have phrased it differently in that it is not a requirement to attend but that they can join their family as you state.

[imranb]

Hi All,

Me and my family are due to apply for our citizenship any time from now.

Me, my wife and our daughter (5) are all on ILR since 6th January 2012. I understand that our daughter can be registered as a BC without having to go through the naturalisation process like us. The questions I have is that,
when I apply for my daughter's registration, should I have to send the original passport of either mine or my wife? I intend to use the NCS service for my joint application with my wife and don't want to get stuck with our application because our passports are with home office for our child's registration processing.

Thanks

Forgive me if I am wrong, but how can your daughter (5 yrs old) who was born (I am assuming in UK) before you got ILR bypass the naturalisation process? Won't she have to go through the naturalisation process under section 1(3) using the MN1 form? I was of the understanding that only those children born in UK after their parents have settled (with ILR) qualify to be British by birth. By that interpretation, your daughter is not British by birth, and she has to go through the naturalisation process, won't she?
This is just my understanding and if I am wrong, my apologies in advance.

[CR001]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but how can your daughter (5 yrs old) who was born (I am assuming in UK) before you got ILR bypass the naturalisation process? Won't she have to go through the naturalisation process under section 1(3) using the MN1 form? I was of the understanding that only those children born in UK after their parents have settled (with ILR) qualify to be British by birth. By that interpretation, your daughter is not British by birth, and she has to go through the naturalisation process, won't she?
This is just my understanding and if I am wrong, my apologies in advance.

Children are registered under the relevant section eg 3(1) or 1(3) etc depending where they were born.
If born after parent obtains ILR - they are British by Birth
Adults are naturalised

So yes, doesn't matter where she was born, she needs to be registered on MN1.

[palasmy]

Thanks for the replies, was just thinking to get my daughter's processing started first without having to wait for the NCS appointment which is only available after another 45 days! Moreover, the application and the docs required for this appear to be fairly straight forward than than our application for naturalisation, so why spend another £60 for this, was my thought.

But if this means complication, then I'd rather do all three at one time.

Regards

[boloney]

Thanks for the replies, was just thinking to get my daughter's processing started first without having to wait for the NCS appointment which is only available after another 45 days! Moreover, the application and the docs required for this appear to be fairly straight forward than than our application for naturalisation, so why spend another £60 for this, was my thought.

But if this means complication, then I'd rather do all three at one time.

Regards

after 6 April you will be paying more for all of you. If your app its not straighforward maybe try another NCS to save some money on fees. If it is straightforward maybe worth sending by post. I done so and got approved really quick.

[John]

palasmy, where was your daughter born? In the UK? Or outside the UK?

[palasmy]

she was born in UK, John.

[John]

So OK, the application to register your child will be under section 1(3), an entitlement application, no UKBA discretion involved.

The application could have been made as soon as either/both parent got their ILR.

[palasmy]

Thanks John, but should I have to send either of our passports with her application for registration? this will help me making the decision.

Also how likely is it that new proposed fees will be implemented by the 6th April? does anybody have any idea on this

Thanks

[Vasanthauk]

We applied ilr though post by 18/07/2012.
Ilr received 08/03/2013.
My son born on 09/09/2012
Shall I take directly british passport for son or what I need to do for my son british passport