ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

SET (LR) - ALLEGATION

Only for queries regarding Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR). Please use the EU Settlement Scheme forum for queries about settled status under Appendix EU

Moderators: Casa, Amber, archigabe, batleykhan, ca.funke, ChetanOjha, EUsmileWEallsmile, JAJ, John, Obie, push, geriatrix, vinny, CR001, zimba, meself2

Locked
rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

SET (LR) - ALLEGATION

Post by rmkirfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:47 pm

Dear Guys,

This forum found me as best door for excellent advices.

My First visa granted on 18/08/03 and entry clearance on 06/09/03. I m eligible to apply from 20/08/13(28 days before visa grant) and I will be ready to apply LR in later this month.

Unfortunately my partner complained against me yesterday and I'm on assault allegation and court charge on 24/09/13 (3 weeks time).
If the court proves my allegation and get warning or fine.
Does this effect ILR?

Police said this is lowest level of allegation should not effect any visa,but some said if it proves and could be criminal charge and can effect ILR under general grounds.This is first police complaint against me in 10 years.

I was thinking, Can I apply with period from 30/09/03 to 30/09/13 in early oct ?

Please guys please help... im in deep trouble.

:( :( :( :( :( :(

Many Thanks in Advance
Irfan

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:18 pm

If you are convicted or recieve a police caution, you should expect a refusal for at least 24 months.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:31 pm

D4109125 wrote:If you are convicted or recieve a police caution, you should expect a refusal for at least 24 months.
Hi Amber,

Many thanks for your reply..

Can you please help me with link for the above?
Is it worth applying now or shall I have to wait for 24 months?
I have court hearing on 24/09/13. Does it helps me if I apply before court date?
or if she takes her complaint back does it helps me?

Please help?

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:42 am

The impending prosecution is an issue it'll be on the PNC and the ukba will more than likely wait until you have a court decision. Though, hindsight is a great thing an assault charge at the end of your period wasn't the wisest of moves. It may now be deemed as a material fact that needs declaring, get a good criminal law solicitor to defend you. When does your current leave expire?

See immigration rule 322(1C)(iv)
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:03 am

D4109125 wrote:The impending prosecution is an issue it'll be on the PNC and the ukba will more than likely wait until you have a court decision. Though, hindsight is a great thing an assault charge at the end of your period wasn't the wisest of moves. It may now be deemed as a material fact that needs declaring, get a good criminal law solicitor to defend you. When does your current leave expire?

See immigration rule 322(1C)(iv)
Hi Amber,

Many Thanks for reply.

Current leave till Jun 2016 (Tier1).But I finished 10 years stay just now.

I was wondering about below options.

1)As you said, I have to declare in application.If I declare, Does application considered?
2)I got criminal solicitor who is assigned by police. and they were saying this is lowest level offence and should not effect any visa.
3)Is it worth keep postpone my court date which is on 24/09/13.(Im not sure i can do this).But u said HO wont wait for court decision. :?

Any Ideas much appreciated. Please Advice

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:48 am

Unless your solicitor is also an immigration specialist I would treat what S(he) said with caution. The Home Office will wait until you have a decision regarding your trial. Remember a set(lr) decision will usually take 6+ months so by the time they look at your biometrics you may have a conviction. If you've got valid leave till 2016, you'll be ok to wait the 24 months if you're convicted.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:37 pm

D4109125 wrote:Unless your solicitor is also an immigration specialist I would treat what S(he) said with caution. The Home Office will wait until you have a decision regarding your trial. Remember a set(lr) decision will usually take 6+ months so by the time they look at your biometrics you may have a conviction. If you've got valid leave till 2016, you'll be ok to wait the 24 months if you're convicted.
Many thanks for Reply Amber..

If my partner withdraw case, Does this still effect ILR to apply now?

Please Advice.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:14 am

If the case is dropped with no further action then it shouldn't.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:51 am

D4109125 wrote:If the case is dropped with no further action then it shouldn't.
Many Thanks Amber.

How do you mean?

It sounds like I have to attend the court on 24 Sep. Police not accepting her withdrawal at the moment.

So If she refuse to be witness on court day, If there is no further action,
Is that case will be dropped?

Please Advice??

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:05 pm

Your criminal law solicitor can advise your further regarding your court case.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:06 pm

D4109125 wrote:Your criminal law solicitor can advise your further regarding your court case.
Cheers Amber,

she is trying to withdraw at Magistrate hearing, if not

If Magistrate court(initial hearing) gives warning, Does still effects ILR/ recorded for 24 months?

Please Advice.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:09 pm

Reprimands and warnings are not sentences passed by the court. If you receive a non-custodial sentence at court it will be a mandatory ILR refusal for 24 months.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:37 pm

rmkirfan wrote:
D4109125 wrote:Your criminal law solicitor can advise your further regarding your court case.
Cheers Amber,

she is trying to withdraw at Magistrate hearing, if not

If Magistrate court(initial hearing) gives warning, Does still effects ILR/ recorded for 24 months?

Please Advice.
Hi Amber,

Your advices are much appreciated and priceless.

I had Magistrate court trial today and Plead no guilty.

Though they got written withdraw statement ,Unfortunately they still proceeded to next trial dated Nov 20,And also she is not willing for witnessing on next stage as well.

Rest all ready to apply SET(LR) , Do you think its wise to apply now with out declaring conviction, as there will be no witness and lead to case dismissal Inshallah
I m trying to save these two months.

Please Advice.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:39 pm

You should inform them of the pending prosecution. If you're found not guilty then just write back with proof of such. It'll likely all be over by the time the Home Office look at your case.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

vinny
Moderator
Posts: 32964
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Post by vinny » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:45 pm

If SET(LR) is not possible due to criminality, then consider extending on FLR(LR).
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:02 pm

Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:51 pm

D4109125 wrote:Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
Many Thanks Amber,

SET(LR) is due to apply now and current visa expires in Jun2016. I was wondering to apply now to save 2 months. But I think I should wait for court outcome and then apply with out any criminal record to ensure application in smooth process.

Many Thanks,
Irfan.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:58 pm

rmkirfan wrote:
D4109125 wrote:Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
Many Thanks Amber,

SET(LR) is due to apply now and current visa expires in Jun2016. I was wondering to apply now to save 2 months. But I think I should wait for court outcome and then apply with out any criminal record to ensure application in smooth process.

Many Thanks,
Irfan.
Hi Amber,

What do you think my best option.

My current visa valid till Jun2016, And Im ready to apply SET(LR) Now. But I have court hearing(20 Nov) on assault allegation and hoping case wthdrawl.

1) Is it worth applying now with Pending prosecution to save time? or
2)Is it wise to apply after court conclusion with out charge declaration?

Hope I dont have to declare above charge if the court dismiss the case, is'nt?

Please Advice.

Many Thanks,
Irfan.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by rmkirfan » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:42 am

D4109125 wrote:Or if you have a SET(LR) application in and you're found guilty then perhaps vary the SET(LR) to FLR(LR) before they 'find out'.
.

Hi Amber/Vinny

Many Thanks for your response.

Im hoping to case withdrawl. If not

My Tier 1 valid till Jun 2016. Im still waiting for court trial (20/11/13) with out applying SET(LR) irrespective im eligible from sep 2013.

If I get any conviction, Can I still apply for FLR(LR) and then go for citizenship in an year? Bit confused Please Advice.

Many Thanks,
Irfan.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:10 am

In order to naturalise as British you must have ILR/PR. You may be able to extend if you have a general grounds for refusal.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

rmkirfan
Member of Standing
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re:

Post by rmkirfan » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:31 pm

Amber_ wrote:In order to naturalise as British you must have ILR/PR. You may be able to extend if you have a general grounds for refusal.
Hi ,

Finally my Assault case is dismissed with no conviction. Solicitor said there will be log as arrested, but no conviction.
Im almost ready to apply SET(LR),Do I need to disclose about case on my application? Please Advice.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17475
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: SET (LR) - ALLEGATION

Post by Amber » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:42 pm

No, I wouldn't think so.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

Locked