NEW STUDENT VISA EXTENSION FORM

[London121]

Hey!!! Finally it arrived..... New Student Visa Extension form with National Insurance (NI) number to mention......

[Rozen]

I guess it's IND's way of tracking down students who are working more hours than they should do I wonder what happens if one 'forgets' to mention it on the form , or simply doesn't have one?

[hypegal3]

so guys where can i find these forms you are talking about.

[adindas]

From what I have seen in reality, it is the ingenuine students who work over 20 hours/week sometimes 60 hours/week. The genuine study is too busy with their study. For some subjects which have laboratory work like medicine, science, engineering, the majority of students even do not have time to think about it.

Some people abuse the sytem other people suffer and subject to a more tough measure.

The abuse of immigration system must be discouraged.

Adindas

I guess it's IND's way of tracking down students who are working more hours than they should do I wonder what happens if one 'forgets' to mention it on the form , or simply doesn't have one?

[hypegal3]

Some student work over 20 hr per week, because tuition fees are too expensive and rent, waster, light bills what do you expect, how are students going to pay for these things working only 20 hrs.

[Jeff Albright]

Some student work over 20 hr per week, because tuition fees are too expensive and rent, waster, light bills what do you expect, how are students going to pay for these things working only 20 hrs.

Sorry I disagree with this comment. The condition of student visa is that the holder supports and accommodates himself without recourse to public funds AND employment. You are not allowed to engage into any professional activity while on a student visa. It only allows you to work 20 hours in order to earn some pocket money and in order to be issued with a student visa, there is a requirement that you have enough means to pay for your education and accommodation in the UK, the evidence of which you have to produce to the ECO or you will be refused.

So don't even mention anywhere that you work in order to earn to pay your fees. The purpose of your student visa is to study and not to work.

[Jeff Albright]

I guess it's IND's way of tracking down students who are working more hours than they should do

I don't think the IND are able to obtain the information how many hours a student worked this way, as Inland Revenue itself has no way of knowing this. You can work and earn £20 per hour or £5 per hour - Inland Revenue does not know that. All they know is how much tax you have paid to date and what your tax code is. You can work on two jobs by 20 hours, and they will not know this.

Unless this procedure has been changed recently, there is no available means of tracking down this information.

[adindas]

Agree with this. Remember with DPA (Data protection Act) inthe UK, even people in the same depertmanet can not easily hand in individual personal data ?. They could only browse to data if there is a suspicous of abuse.

Adindas

I guess it's IND's way of tracking down students who are working more hours than they should do

I don't think the IND are able to obtain the information how many hours a student worked this way, as Inland Revenue itself has no way of knowing this. You can work and earn £20 per hour or £5 per hour - Inland Revenue does not know that. All they know is how much tax you have paid to date and what your tax code is. You can work on two jobs by 20 hours, and they will not know this.

Unless this procedure has been changed recently, there is no available means of tracking down this information.

[adindas]

Yes, indeed this is true, and people sign it that they agree with that.

Normarly HO will only grant you a stundet VISA if you have enough funding in your bank account, or somebody who earn enough (scuh as your parents) provide you with gurantee that they will support you during the duration of your study.

There is nothing wrong with students looking for pocket money and this totatlly legal. But in reality some people abuse the system , in fact they never go to school, they never pay tuition fee, enroll in funny course.

Adindas

Some student work over 20 hr per week, because tuition fees are too expensive and rent, waster, light bills what do you expect, how are students going to pay for these things working only 20 hrs.

Sorry I disagree with this comment. The condition of student visa is that the holder supports and accommodates himself without recourse to public funds AND employment. You are not allowed to engage into any professional activity while on a student visa. It only allows you to work 20 hours in order to earn some pocket money and in order to be issued with a student visa, there is a requirement that you have enough means to pay for your education and accommodation in the UK, the evidence of which you have to produce to the ECO or you will be refused.

So don't even mention anywhere that you work in order to earn to pay your fees. The purpose of your student visa is to study and not to work.

[jes2jes]

Below are the details of the changes to the Immigration Rule and a link for the new forms. The name too of the IND changes to BIA (Border & Immigration Authority). Quiet a long reading though!
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This is a consolidated version of the current Immigration Rules. Any changes to this version will be highlighted in italic text from the date of the change being laid before Parliament and until 28 days after the change taking effect

Part 3: Persons seeking to enter or remain in the United Kingdom for studies

Students

Requirements for leave to enter as a student

57. The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom as a student are that he:


(i) has been accepted for a course of study which is to be provided by an organisation which is included on the Department for Education and Skills' Register of Education and Training Providers, and is at either;
(a) a publicly funded institution of further or higher education which maintains satisfactory records of enrolment and attendance of students and supplies these to the Border and Immigration Agency when requested; or

(b) a bona fide private education institution; or

(c) an independent fee paying school outside the maintained sector which maintains satisfactory records of enrolment and attendance of students and supplies these to the Border and Immigration Agency when requested; and
(ii) is able and intends to follow either:
(a) a recognised full time degree course at a publicly funded institution of further or higher education; or

(b) a weekday full time course involving attendance at a single institution for a minimum of 15 hours organised daytime study per week of a single subject, or directly related subjects; or

(c) a full time course of study at an independent fee paying school; and
(iii) if under the age of 16 years is enrolled at an independent fee paying school on a full time course of studies which meets the requirements of the Education Act 1944; and

(iv) if he has been accepted to study externally for a degree at a private education institution, he is also registered as an external student with the UK degree awarding body; and

(v) intends to leave the United Kingdom at the end of his studies; and

(vi) does not intend to engage in business or to take employment, except part-time or vacation work undertaken with the consent of the Secretary of State; and

(vii) is able to meet the costs of his course and accommodation and the maintenance of himself and any dependants without taking employment or engaging in business or having recourse to public funds; and

(viii) holds a valid United Kingdom entry clearance for entry in this capacity.

Leave to enter as a student

58. A person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom as a student may be admitted for an appropriate period depending on the length of his course of study and his means, and with a condition restricting his freedom to take employment, provided he is able to produce to the Immigration Officer on arrival a valid United Kingdom entry clearance for entry in this capacity.

Refusal of leave to enter as a student
59. Leave to enter as a student is to be refused if the Immigration Officer is not satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 57 is met.

Requirements for an extension of stay as a student

60. The requirements for an extension of stay as a student are that the applicant:
(i)(a) was last admitted to the United Kingdom in possession of a valid student entry clearance in accordance with paragraphs 57-62 or valid prospective student entry clearance in accordance with paragraphs 82-87 of these Rules; or

(b) has previously been granted leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom to re-sit an examination in accordance with paragraphs 69A-69F of these Rules; or

(c) if he has been accepted on a course of study atdegree level or above, has previously been granted leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom in accordance with paragraphs 87A-87F, 128-135, 135O-135T and 143A-143F of these Rules; or

(d) has valid leave as a student in accordance with paragraphs 57-62 of these Rules; and.

(e) is a non-visa national who has been accepted for a course of study below degree level, and has valid leave as a student to study below degree level in accordance with paragraphs 57-62 of these Rules, or has valid leave in accordance with paragraphs 69A-69L or 82-87F of these Rules, which was granted on or before 30 September 2004; and
(ii) meets the requirements for admission as a student set out in paragraph 57 (i) - (vi); and

(iii) has produced evidence of his enrolment on a course which meets the requirements of paragraph 57; and

(iv) can produce satisfactory evidence of regular attendance during any course which he has already begun; or any other course for which he has been enrolled in the past; and

(v) can show evidence of satisfactory progress in his course of study including the taking and passing of any relevant examinations; and

(vi) would not, as a result of an extension of stay, spend more than 2 years on short courses below degree level (ie courses of less than 1 years duration, or longer courses broken off before completion); and

(vii) has not come to the end of a period of government or international scholarship agency sponsorship, or has the written consent of his official sponsor for a further period of study in the United Kingdom and satisfactory evidence that sufficient sponsorship funding is available.
Extension of stay as a student

61. An extension of stay as a student may be granted, subject to a restriction on his freedom to take employment, provided the Secretary of State is satisfied that the applicant meets each of the requirements of paragraph 60.

Refusal of extension of stay as a student

62. An extension of stay as a student is to be refused if the Secretary of State is not satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 60 is met.

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawand ... ules/part3
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawand ... ymemohc418
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/6353/1 ... ch2007.pdf (New Form)

[hypegal3]

Do you really think a person will sponsor a person for around £10,000 per year for a course for 3 students over 3yrs each, I dont thinks so. Its like we are paying to live in UK.

[adindas]

Agree with you, that is why they allow student to work up to 20 hours/week. Genuine/Serious students are unlikely to be able to work over 20 hours as they need to concentrate on their study. I believe, the limit of 20 hours is based on research and not only made up. This is especially true if you are studying in subjects which need laboratory works such as Medicine, dentistry, Engineering, Science.

Remember students dependant could work FT, in other countries, do not ever think dependant could work FT, student himself are not allowed to work at all. This is the privilage of beeing students in the UK. But reasonable number of people abuse the system, never go to school, never pay tuititon fee, enroll in a funny course. Another trick, husband on student Visa, wife dependant and then if husband get rejected wife apply for student VISA, keep switching from student to dependant between husband and wife. Some people have already over 40 years old but still with student VISA. Indeed, it is very expensive to stay on students VISA in the UK for over 8 years as, normally international students will pay £10,000 upwards for tuituion feea year, depends on the univerties where they are studying. However, the ingenuine student immune to tuituion fee as in fact they never pay tuitution fee at all if you understand how this scene work.

Some mature students over 40 might be genuine students but now they subject to suspicion. Genuine student suffer as it subjects to tougher measure. Probably someday, genuine students are not allowed to work at all, because too many people abuse the system. Remember it used to be that during the conservative rule the students were not allowed to work. If there are too many people abuse the system they might come back to this era. If you believe in what you preach, really concern to genuine students then you should condemm those who abuse the system.


Adindas

Do you really think a person will sponsor a person for around £10,000 per year for a course for 3 students over 3yrs each, I dont thinks so. Its like we are paying to live in UK.