referees and photograph

[rangeel]

Hi All

I have NCS appointment next week for naturalization. Two referees already signed for me last week, where I attached bit older photograph. I have seen on forum that photograph must be within last six months.

In this case, what I need to do ? Can I take new photograph now and send the form ? Coz, the referees are not in the city until another few weeks. Early signed by referees than photograph will be a problem or not ?

Thanks for your suggestions.
Rangeel

[Damanisshallo]

Hi All

I have NCS appointment next week for naturalization. Two referees already signed for me last week, where I attached bit older photograph. I have seen on forum that photograph must be within last six months.

In this case, what I need to do ? Can I take new photograph now and send the form ? Coz, the referees are not in the city until another few weeks. Early signed by referees than photograph will be a problem or not ?

Thanks for your suggestions.
Rangeel

If you've used those photograph's else where (Related to UKBA) then yes you might need new one. Second most important is make sure that the date your referees have signed is after your signed declaration.

[Tuvoc]

Second most important is make sure that the date your referees have signed is after your signed declaration.

That is a trap !! I don't see that instruction anywhere.

One of my referees is the same date, and the other is after. Should be OK then.

[Amber]

Referees can sign up to 6 months before the Home Office receive the application. It need not be after the applicant has signed.

[Damanisshallo]

That is a trap !! I don't see that instruction anywhere.

One of my referees is the same date, and the other is after. Should be OK then.

This is Cognitive Science, depends from person to person. Though there is no written requirement for such a thing. But to be on a safer side it is advisable to get it signed by the referee either on the same day or after the applicant's signature.

However, the IDI looks if the form was signed within 6 months but from the quote below, it does indicates that the referee is signing the form to confirm the identity, character yela yela yela... What if the referee has signed a form and the applicant gets involved in a mysterious incident?

Again, its the applicant's choice but If I had to, then I'd sign first and then go to the referee for him to say that I had a clean sheet on the date I signed

You must sign the form yourself. If you cannot sign the form you must make a mark or a fingerprint and ask one of your referees to sign saying that it is your mark or fingerprint.

[Amber]

That is a trap !! I don't see that instruction anywhere.

One of my referees is the same date, and the other is after. Should be OK then.

This is Cognitive Science, depends from person to person. Though there is no written requirement for such a thing. But to be on a safer side it is advisable to get it signed by the referee either on the same day or after the applicant's signature.

However, the IDI looks if the form was signed within 6 months but from the quote below, it does indicates that the referee is signing the form to confirm the identity, character yela yela yela... What if the referee has signed a form and the applicant gets involved in a mysterious incident?

Again, its the applicant's choice but If I had to, then I'd sign first and then go to the referee for him to say that I had a clean sheet on the date I signed

You must sign the form yourself. If you cannot sign the form you must make a mark or a fingerprint and ask one of your referees to sign saying that it is your mark or fingerprint.

[Damanisshallo]

That is a trap !! I don't see that instruction anywhere.

One of my referees is the same date, and the other is after. Should be OK then.

This is Cognitive Science, depends from person to person. Though there is no written requirement for such a thing. But to be on a safer side it is advisable to get it signed by the referee either on the same day or after the applicant's signature.

However, the IDI looks if the form was signed within 6 months but from the quote below, it does indicates that the referee is signing the form to confirm the identity, character yela yela yela... What if the referee has signed a form and the applicant gets involved in a mysterious incident?

Again, its the applicant's choice but If I had to, then I'd sign first and then go to the referee for him to say that I had a clean sheet on the date I signed

You must sign the form yourself. If you cannot sign the form you must make a mark or a fingerprint and ask one of your referees to sign saying that it is your mark or fingerprint.

There have been instances where Check & Send have returned the applications to get these dates corrected. Unfortunately, there aren't any written proofs (I wish there were). Again, it is completely to the applicant but is it worth risking????

[Amber]

Yes but check and send is for Passports the OP is asking about naturilisation.

[Damanisshallo]

I am speaking "in general"...which could be any application in general ...it could be anything from Job Application to a School Application...I am not being specific to Naturalization. With the kind of track record UKBA has, it is always better to play safe than assumptions (that this would only apply to Passports and not Naturalization Apps)


Its always good to argue (Constructive Discussion) to come to a conclusion but where we make a conclusion first, we might argue for ever to prove each others point...

[nionlight]

Referees can sign up to 6 months before the Home Office receive the application. It need not be after the applicant has signed.

Please clarify where does it say that applicant needs to sign before the referee? I thought I sign the declaration the day i submit to ncs?

I have just passed it today and ncs didn't say anything about it. I put today date but my referee already signed it few weeks back?

Am In trouble?

[Jambo]

Referees can sign up to 6 months before the Home Office receive the application. It need not be after the applicant has signed.

Please clarify where does it say that applicant needs to sign before the referee? I thought I sign the declaration the day i submit to ncs?

I have just passed it today and ncs didn't say anything about it. I put today date but my referee already signed it few weeks back?

Am In trouble?

I think you missed the negative in D4109125's post. Read it again slowly.

You are fine.

[Damanisshallo]

Referees can sign up to 6 months before the Home Office receive the application. It need not be after the applicant has signed.

Please clarify where does it say that applicant needs to sign before the referee? I thought I sign the declaration the day i submit to ncs?

I have just passed it today and ncs didn't say anything about it. I put today date but my referee already signed it few weeks back?

Am In trouble?

Not really, If they've accepted your application then its well good. At some places, NCS may refuse to accept applications if they aren't convinced. Its only a suggestion though.

[nionlight]

Referees can sign up to 6 months before the Home Office receive the application. It need not be after the applicant has signed.

hahha just realized you said NEED NOT. sorry I was scared

[Amber]

Hi All,

Just would like to do small inquiry of AN form in section 3.

My wife will be applying naturalization in few days. We got small baby and she is not doing any job. What she can write in 3.1, 3.2, 3.3,3.4 and 3.5. These all are about employment. She is not doing any job. So, it would be better to leave the sections blank or anything she need to write ?

Waiting for your response.

Thank you

[Amber]

You can write homemaker and leave the rest blank.