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Post by Mini » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:09 am

Received my decision letter yesterday as rejected. They did not give me any points for earning although my salary has been above GBP 9000 for past 2 years and i had sent enuf proof. They also gave me only 25 points for 5 years graduate level exp although i had claimed 50 points for 5 yrs senior level.
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Post by elzeem » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:21 am

how this

im afraied very much :x

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Post by fomar » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:42 am

Mini,

What was the designation you specified for your senior level experience and was your 5 years experience in different fields or in one field.
Also you may share a sample of the contents of your experience ref letters perhaps we could understand why they did that.

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Post by bugmaster » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:20 am

Sorry to hear this mate.
Are you thinking about appeal? or re-applying?
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Post by Chess » Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:44 am

Mini,

Look through posts by 'hsmphopefull' and you will have a better idea of what to do next
Where there is a will there is a way.

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Post by raj » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:07 am

gosh!!

your case was seen as one of the strong case, enough salary, enough work experience that to be senior level and more over u were having a job offer as well...

its really scary....

btw how much salary did u show in ur offer letter.

I would say u must appeal instead of re-applying.

regds
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Post by Mini » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:10 am

Chess,
Did that early morning cause i remembered his case. Currently going thru the photocopy set of docs sent to HO and trying to figure out what could have been illegible.

As of now i think, there is nothing i can add or explain to clarify senior level exp. I think i added all i could think of. I will put the exp letter formats on the forum as suggested by fomar maybe some of you can help me understand.

The earning points could have proved tricky for the case worker if he was'nt prepared to spend time on the application. As the tax year is Apr-Mar & salary revision period is Oct-Sep the figures in all 3 docs do not match.So currently trying to prepare a summary sheet with data from the 3 sources (tax return, salary slip & salary letters from company). Trying to put data on one sheet with explainations and requesting for review.
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hi

Post by raoms » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:33 am

sorry to hear the news. From your mail, it appears that you have send photocopies of some documents. Try to send the original. The rejection reason in your case (earnings & seniority) happened many times. I am not sure wheather you come under specialist level or seniority. If seniority then you may have to show your organization layout and your position in that chart.
I remember once that you critisized the consultants. But they really know how to present the case. you can contact host if you may need some further assistance and make your case strong this time.

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Post by Mini » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:09 am

Format of exp letter

Start Date
End Date
Designation
Role Description
Reporting To

Role desc included 4-5 points of role and the no of people working under me. This was on company letter head signed by VP HR.

Raj,
My job offer is for GBP 35000 pa
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Post by fomar » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:13 am

Mini,

I think you have a strong case. if you make a review request, I think you will get the approval, so don't be disappointed. Do it as soon as possible.

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Post by raj » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:54 am

mini,

my gutfeeling says that claiming senior level experience and showing the expected salary of 35,000 is wrong.....


in UK 35,000 salary is being earned by fresh greaduates or normal gradute with 2 years experience.....over 28 with senior level should be 50-60k not less than that...

I am under 28 applicant and have also claimed senior level exp. but if at all i will dare sending the job offer it would not be less than 50K for sure...else case worker will not take time rejecting my claim as senior level...

hope it helps!!

regds
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Post by Chess » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:20 pm

Where there is a will there is a way.

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Post by Mini » Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:43 am

Good news is that i finally received my original docs in Uk which were hugely delayed in transit. The bad news is that form-16 is missing from the pack. Its difficult to say if it was misplaced by the HO or missed by me, but i have it as part of the photocopy set of my original document pack I retained after i dispatched my application.

I had prepared my review request yesterday and created a clear sheet using all docs submitted as proof to prove my earning points. I had used the form-16 extensively as that is the document which gives the clearest picture of your taxed earnings.

So now i plan to modify my review request and delete all data pertaining to form-16 and just use my tax return & company salary review letter. As the reviews are free its worth a try. If it does not happen then I re-apply with form-16 included.
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Post by Rajan » Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:17 pm

Mini,

Sorry to hear abt that. For the strong case like yrs, it should not happen.

But now you should concentrate on reply. I don't think it's any way related to Offer letter.
Concentrate more on Past earnings part, 'coz FORM-16, Tax Return, Pay Slips etc, they all tell you different figure. And who's not aware of Indian system may get confused easily.
I am also feeling the same problem.

So, use only one thing, FORM16 or Tax Certificate. And About earnings & deductions, explain them in a short n crispy way...

The way you're showing your earnings, You may share with all to get their comments.

All the Best !!

Rajan
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Post by bkhan » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:57 am

Mini,

I am not trying to discourage you but anyone earning an equivalent of 9000 pounds in India can live very comfortably in India. In my opinion, immigration is for people who cannot make ends meet in their home countries. A person like you can do well in India. You may visit any country if you are making good money.

Khan

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Post by Mini » Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:15 am

bkhan,
I understand ur point of view, and yes to a certain extent i agree with you. Its just that, working culture abroad is much better and we would like to spend a few years to get international exposure. My husband is in the process of completing his MBA and we feel that after spending some time abroad we will be in a better position to decide about where we want to settle.

Rajan,
You are right, its very difficult to re-concile figures from all these documents. I realised that when I tried to do the same for the review letter. Hence it is very natural for the case worker to reject the offer as he would be taking a risk if he approved it and give me the benefit of doubt. As we all know they can be hauled for approving erroneously and not rejecting. So its safer for him to reject.
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how much time appeal processing

Post by 12 March Applicant » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:04 am

any one can tell me about the appeal processing time.
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Post by Mini » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:52 pm

I believe it is 2 weeks. You can watch this post and my update when i get a response.
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