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That is not correct, absolutely not correct, they needn't be married before EU law can be engaged in Ireland, Ireland recognises De facto relationships under their national provisions, and this will equally apply to EU citizens.adelmurray wrote:it looks like your girlfriend may be the subject of a deportation order , which will be a huge obstacle for her to gain a visa to Ireland , i am sorry to say that your only option to apply under the EU rules you will need to be married and you the EU citizen need to show that you are exercising your EU Treaty rights ( free movement of people Directive ) , you can do that by 1st get married , second you travel to Ireland and get a job or register as a student , rent a flat in both your names , then you can approach the immigration department and apply for your new wife's visa . one you do that it should not be a problem even if the British authorities have issued your girlfriend with an intention to remove her from the country .
good luck with everything and hope that did help .
Your understanding is incorrect.adelmurray wrote:i may be wrong , but i don't think the EU free movement of people directive acknowledges de facto relation ships , so here the poster will need to rely on the irish local immigration laws , and when they do of course the irish immigration officials will look at the girlfriends immigration history thus will automatically disqualify the lady from getting the irish visa under local irish immigration laws .
on the other hand the EU directive would be a better option for them because the irish immigration department can not refuse them that visa , and as far as i know in order to qualify under the EU free movement of people directive , the applicant should be married to the EU citizen . unless you can prove that the EU directive clearly states that de facto relationships are also recognised . i urge you not to mix the two immigration laws .
You are mixing it, subject to discretion does not include the powers to refuse on the basis of such things as in her case, even if she was deported for minor crimes in the UK for example, that discretion does not grant the Irish authorities the right to refuse that application.357mag wrote:You are of course right that de facto or durable relationships are to some extent at the discretion of the issuing authority Adelmurray. As in will facilitate rather than will issue.
I'm just hoping they will facilitate on the evidence we provide that we are in a durable relationship.
whichever way best for you and your partner , that is my wish , and hope that you will not be face with any grievances from the irish immigration officials . best of luck with everything man i wish i could help more . just be prepared for the irish immigration officials trust me they will use any loophole they can find to deny your girlfriends visa , so be very careful with them .357mag wrote:Sorry ademurray, I can see some element in what you are saying being correct but its a forum and the best way to use a forum is to select what you think is the most accurate or most usable information. Your input is graciously received but I feel Dales is the most informed response.
One thing I do know is that loads of couples have used the EEA route as unmarried partners. If I had time I would get married before we go.