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health surcharge !!!?

Post by asif_sharif » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:02 am

applying for spouse visa for my wife went to update some info on the VISA4UK site and the first thing i see is this bullcrap about health surcharge :!: :cry: :evil: WTF

so do i need this for my wifes spouse visa application as well then ?
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by CR001 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:14 am

Yes, it needs to be paid at point of application, £200 per year for the duration of the visa payable upfront.

https://www.immigration-health-surcharg ... ment/start.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by asif_sharif » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:34 pm

so £885 plus £200
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by CR001 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:36 pm

It is £200 per year, payable upfront. So if a 2.5 year visa the surcharge will be £500.
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Post by Casa » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:17 pm

....and a further £500 surcharge will be due when the next 2.5 year extension is applied for addition to the visa fee,
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by WR1 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:34 pm

asif_sharif wrote:so £885 plus £200
No, £885 is the old fees. The fees have increased from 6 April 2015, the new fee is now £956 for spouse visa.

So £956 + £500 = £ 1,456 is what you will be paying.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by CR001 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:43 pm

Plus £400 on top of that if applying in person.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by asif_sharif » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:47 pm

WR1 wrote:
asif_sharif wrote:so £885 plus £200
No, £885 is the old fees. The fees have increased from 6 April 2015, the new fee is now £956 for spouse visa.

So £956 + £500 = £ 1,456 is what you will be paying.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by WR1 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:52 pm

Yes, they certainly have taking us for a ride.

Going to be applying for my other half's ILR in a couple of months and fees jumped on 6 April 2015 from £1,093 to £1,500, a £407 increase :evil:
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by Obie » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:15 pm

This surcharge is something i find most troubling and disturbing, especially in the case of tax payers and their family.

If some of these tier 1 and 2 migrant pay huge amount of taxes, and NI contribution, which is designed for the Health services, why should they be expected to pay surcharge as well, when they had already paid it.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by asif_sharif » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:21 pm

so after 2 and half years i have to pay another £1456 :?:
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by Casa » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:37 pm

2.5 year extension current fees = postal £649 + £500 NHS surcharge. In person application an additional £400
ILR = postal £1500. In person application an additional £400
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by drmastoi » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:41 pm

Yes They are taking the Piss.

You Pay taxes
You Pay national Insurance monthly
You pay huge Visa Fees and extension fees every 1-2 years.

but Now take it or leave it

Health surcharge 200 pounds per person per year additional.

I wonder what National Insurance is for

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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by Petaltop » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:13 pm

drmastoi wrote:Yes They are taking the Piss.

You Pay taxes
You Pay national Insurance monthly
You pay huge Visa Fees and extension fees every 1-2 years.

but Now take it or leave it

Health surcharge 200 pounds per person per year additional.

I wonder what National Insurance is for
Towards a UK state pension. To enable you to claim contribution based benefits.

The "N" in the British NHS stands for National. Therefore it is the British National Healthservice, not IHS "International" Health Service.

The British have always been overly generous in letting immigrants use the healthservice for free when they arrive, even if they have arrived with existing medical conditions. Many countries still would not let an immigrant have a visa if they have exisiting medical conditions, to protect their countries healthservice for their own citizens and even if they are healthly, they still wouldn't let them use their healthservice for free until they were PR.

In fact, the British are still being generous in letting people arrive with existing medical problems and only having to pay £200 a year! A basic medical insurance would cost more than that and wouldn't cover any existing conditions! EEA citizens and their dependants will not be offered the chance to buy this cheap £200 per year health surcharge and many will have to buy (and now use) their CSIs of be faced with a bill of 150% the cost of NHS. With all these NHS checks, their own country may not be willing to pay for their NHS treatment on their EHIC if they "reside" in another country as the UK will now be billing other EEA countries.

The high numbers of immigrants wanting to be British over the last 10/15 years, has caused a massive strain on the British NHS as well as other services ie schools, roads, benefits, jobs, housing, social housing, ect.

If you don't like the changes, then move back home or see if another country will take you. If you aren't doing a job on the UK's shortages list, then the UK doesn't need you and that will free that job up for someone else.

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Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:22 pm

And there is the option of claiming NI contributions and some tax back if/when you leave the UK.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by Petaltop » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:32 pm

CR001 wrote:And there is the option of claiming NI contributions and some tax back if/when you leave the UK.

That's their probloem solved then :lol: Next

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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by asif_sharif » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:23 pm

956+600 for my wife !!!
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Post by Casa » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:43 pm

Correct
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by drmastoi » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:08 pm

Petaltop wrote:
drmastoi wrote:Yes They are taking the Piss.


Towards a UK state pension. To enable you to claim contribution based benefits.

The "N" in the British NHS stands for National. Therefore it is the British National Healthservice, not IHS "International" Health Service.

The British have always been overly generous in letting immigrants use the healthservice for free when they arrive, even if they have arrived with existing medical conditions. Many countries still would not let an immigrant have a visa if they have exisiting medical conditions, to protect their countries healthservice for their own citizens and even if they are healthly, they still wouldn't let them use their healthservice for free until they were PR.

In fact, the British are still being generous in letting people arrive with existing medical problems and only having to pay £200 a year! A basic medical insurance would cost more than that and wouldn't cover any existing conditions! EEA citizens and their dependants will not be offered the chance to buy this cheap £200 per year health surcharge and many will have to buy (and now use) their CSIs of be faced with a bill of 150% the cost of NHS. With all these NHS checks, their own country may not be willing to pay for their NHS treatment on their EHIC if they "reside" in another country as the UK will now be billing other EEA countries.

The high numbers of immigrants wanting to be British over the last 10/15 years, has caused a massive strain on the British NHS as well as other services ie schools, roads, benefits, jobs, housing, social housing, ect.

If you don't like the changes, then move back home or see if another country will take you. If you aren't doing a job on the UK's shortages list, then the UK doesn't need you and that will free that job up for someone else.

Fact is part of national insurance is used to fund NHS ,

Immigrants coming from abroad pay taxes ,national insurance contributions and they are not entitled to any state benefits until they are PR.There are people who have not contributed single penny into system and get all entitlements e.g European Nationals and government can not do a thing about this.Immigrants are easy targets . .British government is not generous at all ,They are ripping off immigrants for years by high applications fees and extension fees and now an other surcharge.
Private insurance will cost 15-20 pound a month here in UK and will give better service without long queues for appointments .

Yes I dont like the changes and i will not move back home as you suggested or go to canada, Australia, NZ ,US who offer better opportunities for immigrants ,Its my won choice,
I will still keep criticizing the rip off policies made by opportunists.

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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by chibakun » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:17 pm

Not to mention the fact that you can't make a doctors appointment! No Health Service more like.

My wife is a foreign national from outside the EU and she has work colleagues , say Italian married to Chinese, and they don't have to pay any of these fees because he is from an EU member country. How's that for an epic joke?

In fact I know of a French national on benefits in London and he's married to a Mongolian. If it was UK married to Mongolian it would be bye bye.

And we will never leave the EU.

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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by WR1 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:38 pm

chibakun wrote:My wife is a foreign national from outside the EU and she has work colleagues , say Italian married to Chinese, and they don't have to pay any of these fees because he is from an EU member country. How's that for an epic joke?

In fact I know of a French national on benefits in London and he's married to a Mongolian. If it was UK married to Mongolian it would be bye bye.
Well said.

The same goes for meeting the financial requirements. A British National would have to demonstrate income of at least £18,600 in order to sponsor his/her non-EEA spouse, whereas the EEA National does not have to meet this financial criteria on order to sponsor their non-EEA spouse.

You know the system is messed up when a European Citizen has more rights than a British Citizen in the UK! :roll:
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by physicskate » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:59 pm

Petaltop wrote: If you don't like the changes, then move back home or see if another country will take you. If you aren't doing a job on the UK's shortages list, then the UK doesn't need you and that will free that job up for someone else.
And what, pray tell, about those who are in a shortage occupation and STILL have to pay this ridiculous surcharge!? I have been paying in for a ridiculous amount of years and have only been to the odd GP appointment!

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Post by sherriesmum » Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:18 pm

if your application for a visa is refused as most people know you loose the application fee.is this nhs surcharge refunded if you arnt succesful in applying for a visa to the uk.

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Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:21 pm

sherriesmum wrote:is this nhs surcharge refunded if you arnt succesful in applying for a visa to the uk.
Yes it is.
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Re: health surcharge !!!?

Post by dr_sea » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:30 pm

drmastoi wrote:
Petaltop wrote:
drmastoi wrote:Yes They are taking the Piss.


Towards a UK state pension. To enable you to claim contribution based benefits.

The "N" in the British NHS stands for National. Therefore it is the British National Healthservice, not IHS "International" Health Service.

The British have always been overly generous in letting immigrants use the healthservice for free when they arrive, even if they have arrived with existing medical conditions. Many countries still would not let an immigrant have a visa if they have exisiting medical conditions, to protect their countries healthservice for their own citizens and even if they are healthly, they still wouldn't let them use their healthservice for free until they were PR.

In fact, the British are still being generous in letting people arrive with existing medical problems and only having to pay £200 a year! A basic medical insurance would cost more than that and wouldn't cover any existing conditions! EEA citizens and their dependants will not be offered the chance to buy this cheap £200 per year health surcharge and many will have to buy (and now use) their CSIs of be faced with a bill of 150% the cost of NHS. With all these NHS checks, their own country may not be willing to pay for their NHS treatment on their EHIC if they "reside" in another country as the UK will now be billing other EEA countries.

The high numbers of immigrants wanting to be British over the last 10/15 years, has caused a massive strain on the British NHS as well as other services ie schools, roads, benefits, jobs, housing, social housing, ect.

If you don't like the changes, then move back home or see if another country will take you. If you aren't doing a job on the UK's shortages list, then the UK doesn't need you and that will free that job up for someone else.

Fact is part of national insurance is used to fund NHS ,

Immigrants coming from abroad pay taxes ,national insurance contributions and they are not entitled to any state benefits until they are PR.There are people who have not contributed single penny into system and get all entitlements e.g European Nationals and government can not do a thing about this.Immigrants are easy targets . .British government is not generous at all ,They are ripping off immigrants for years by high applications fees and extension fees and now an other surcharge.
Private insurance will cost 15-20 pound a month here in UK and will give better service without long queues for appointments .

Yes I dont like the changes and i will not move back home as you suggested or go to canada, Australia, NZ ,US who offer better opportunities for immigrants ,Its my won choice,
I will still keep criticizing the rip off policies made by opportunists.

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I agree drmastoi. Also I would like the option to go private. Better yet I demand it. why should I pay £200 a year for the NHS when I can pay about the same amount and get private health insurance with a much better service. This is crap ( excuse the language).
See this link for a very good argument against the surcharge!

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