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chanduck wrote:Dear all,
Am new to this group and am not here to painc you all but one of my mate said HSMP will be closed in near future as they have recived enough applciations and further extention application need to switch WP It seems , My frend recived unreliable message .so , just wondering has any body any clue.
thanks
Chand
MyHSMPApplication wrote:I guess this is one of those 'public pleasing tactic' of selling the old wine in a new bottle.
I guess the process and procedure will more or less remain the same.
I went through the initial draft and found out that it is nothing but re-branding the entire immigration process to the new tier system. Nothing more nothing less
However that was just the initial draft and that the final version is awaited. Hopefully this should be very close to the initial draft
Cheers
PG
MyHSMPApplication wrote:Hi pantaiema
I was referring to the (proposed) points system of the new Tier 1 immigration system.
I am pretty sure you might have checked this link
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/6353/a ... ndpap1.pdf
just in case you haven't page no 22 and 23 describe in detail the point based immigration for tier 1 immigrants...
This is indeed the same as the current HSMP points based system.
This made me believe that this could be the same but with an enitrely different name.
Do you have link to any latest document from the HO with regard to the new tier based immigration system which explains this in detail?
Cheers
PG
(as indicated in March 2006 and reiterated in November 2006: http://press.homeoffice.gov.uk/press-re ... n-advisory)Key elements of the system include:consolidating more than 80 existing work and study routes into five tiers:
tier 1 - highly skilled, e.g. scientists or entrepreneurs;
tier 2 - skilled workers with a job offer, e.g. nurses, teachers, engineers;
tier 3 - low skilled workers filling specific temporary labour shortages, e.g. construction workers for a particular project
tier 4 - students; and
tier 5 - youth mobility and temporary workers, e.g. working holiday makers or musicians coming to play a concert.
The HSMP scheme as we know it, has served as something of a pilot scheme for a broader points-based migration scheme, of which the five-tier system has now been proposed. So it has been proposed that the HSMP path to entry and settlement in the UK will not be eliminated, but rather will constitute tier 1. And while the March 2006 paper may well be considered dated, there is no evidence that the PBS to be implemented will differ materially from what was proposed then.tier 1 - highly skilled, e.g. scientists or entrepreneurs;
tier 2 - skilled workers with a job offer, e.g. nurses, teachers, engineers;
tier 3 - low skilled workers filling specific temporary labour shortages, e.g. construction workers for a particular project
tier 4 - students; and
tier 5 - youth mobility and temporary workers, e.g. working holiday makers or musicians coming to play a concert.
gordon wrote:The plan appears to be that the immigration authority will integrate a number of routes into the UK into five tiers, although it should be noted that not all tiers will provide paths to settlement.The HSMP scheme as we know it, has served as something of a pilot scheme for a broader points-based migration scheme, of which the five-tier system has now been proposed. So it has been proposed that the HSMP path to entry and settlement in the UK will not be eliminated, but rather will constitute tier 1. And while the March 2006 paper may well be considered dated, there is no evidence that the PBS to be implemented will differ materially from what was proposed then.tier 1 - highly skilled, e.g. scientists or entrepreneurs;
tier 2 - skilled workers with a job offer, e.g. nurses, teachers, engineers;
tier 3 - low skilled workers filling specific temporary labour shortages, e.g. construction workers for a particular project
tier 4 - students; and
tier 5 - youth mobility and temporary workers, e.g. working holiday makers or musicians coming to play a concert.
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutu ... sed_system (March 2006)
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutu ... asedsystem (April 2007)
This position has been further confirmed in the meeting of the Migration Impacts Forum (June 2007) and in the Fabian Society policy position paper by Byrne and Kelly (June 2007). The Fabian Society paper suggests some further changes, but no elimination of what would become tier 1.
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawand ... andagendas
http://fabians.org.uk/fsblob/176.pdf
For settlement clocks, those who switch from HSMP to WP will have their clocks reset if their most recent period of leave is on WP. Those who switch from WP to HSMP will not have their settlement clocks reset, since those whose most recent period of leave is HSMP may amalgamate HSMP leave with WP leave or innovator leave in order to meet the five-years residence threshold. Discussions on the PBS have not suggested any material changes to existing policy on this point, although as noted in the Fabian Society paper, there is the possibility of potentially advantageous policy changes for those in tier 1. Otherwise, existing policy:
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawand ... ules/part5
So if you qualify for HSMP (whatever your occupation) and continue to meet the points threshold, then you should be fine. While it's important to continue to monitor the PBS as it is rolled out, beginning next year, there's no reason for people to get jittery at this point.
AG
Then what will be happend to existing HSMP visa holders or how they will be integrated to proposed Tier system who is not scientist or entrepreneurs?gordon wrote:As a point of clarification, the various documents published have referred to tier 1 as comprising the highly skilled, a group, it is suggested, that includes, but is not limited to, scientists and entrepreneurs.
Key elements of the system include:consolidating more than 80 existing work and study routes into five tiers:
tier 1 - highly skilled, e.g. scientists or entrepreneurs;
Tier 1 is designed for migrants with the highest skills and will replace the HSMP. They do not need a job offer or employer sponsorship for the visa and the application can be made from outside the UK. There is also the additional flexibility of being able to change employers, and a doctor can work in several trusts—for example, as a locum. Points are awarded for age, earnings (relative to rates in the country in which it was earned), and qualifications. English language ability is a requirement for tiers 1 and 2. The pass mark is 75 points.
Tiers 1 and 2 are routes to settlement in the UK and allow dependants. A minimum of five years' residence is needed for settlement. Tier 1 is initially granted for two years and after reassessment for a further two to three years.
Reading that, one would wonder what would happen with any prospective highly skilled migrants between the end of HSMP in July 2006 (as indicated in the article) and the roll-out of the tier system in early 2008 !! Then again, I don't suppose that the BMJ ever claimed to be an authoritative source on immigration policy ...cagrawal wrote:http://careerfocus.bmj.com/cgi/reprint/332/7550/191.pdf