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Why are you having problems with the test? What is your first/main language?chocodream wrote:I am an ILR holder, basically, I have lived in the UK for more than 6 years already. I am having a problem with the UK life test, I found it's very difficult to pass.
Anyway, my question is ,if I don't apply the naturalisation , can I still get all types of benefits , especially the pension ?
Apart from the nationality, what are the main differences between ILR and citizenship?
Thank you very much for your help^^
I'd like to hear this one too.sakura wrote:
Why are you having problems with the test? What is your first/main language?
Your pension has got nothing to do with your citizenship or immigration status. Whether or not you will receive your pension depends on the rules of your pension scheme not your citizenship.chocodream wrote:Coz my english is not good...I only can speak a little bit english.Doing the test is a difficult for me. And , These posts are typed by my daughter,not by me...
So, back to the question, will I still get the pension if I have not got the citizenship?
and soemone replied that the citizenship can pass to the children in overseas, Is there any age limit for the children? Can I still pass the citizenship to my daughter who is over 25 years old?
Pensions depend on your job...there is a government (public) pension which (almost) everyone pays into. There is also a private pension. Most people pay into both gov't and private pensions (private = set up by yourself and/or your employers) because the government pension is very small. Are you working?chocodream wrote:Coz my english is not good...I only can speak a little bit english.Doing the test is a difficult for me. And , These posts are typed by my daughter,not by me...
So, back to the question, will I still get the pension if I have not got the citizenship?
and soemone replied that the citizenship can pass to the children in overseas, Is there any age limit for the children? Can I still pass the citizenship to my daughter who is over 25 years old?
I have known people who lived in the US for 30+ years and still couldn't speak English.Dawie wrote:I'm still a bit confused about your inability to pass the Life in the UK test. How have you managed to live in the UK for more than 6 years and obtain ILR and yet still not have a good enough level of English to pass this test?
(No offence, but) are they Spanish speakers?Marco 72 wrote:I have known people who lived in the US for 30+ years and still couldn't speak English.Dawie wrote:I'm still a bit confused about your inability to pass the Life in the UK test. How have you managed to live in the UK for more than 6 years and obtain ILR and yet still not have a good enough level of English to pass this test?
Many are, but you can also find Chinese and Russians and Italians (for examples). It's more age-dependent than nationality. Folks pushing 40 or older never really learn English fluently unless they really apply themselves. AND have the time. Teens & 20-30 year olds have more motivation and "take" to the culture and language better.sakura wrote:(No offence, but) are they Spanish speakers?Marco 72 wrote:I have known people who lived in the US for 30+ years and still couldn't speak English.Dawie wrote:I'm still a bit confused about your inability to pass the Life in the UK test. How have you managed to live in the UK for more than 6 years and obtain ILR and yet still not have a good enough level of English to pass this test?
successfully completing a course of study in ESOL with citizenship. You will need to provide a certificate showing the level you have attained together with a letter from the college certifying that the course had the requisite citizenship content.
Yes, they are Mexican immigrants in California (my wife is of Mexican origin and used to live there). Some of them are in their 50's and have been in the US since their late teens. The ones who were born after their family moved to the US (or who were little kids at the time) now speak English as their first language and only use Spanish to communicate with their older relatives. They also consider themselves American and not Mexican. This difference is probably due to compulsory schooling and to the fact that immigrants to the US don't tend to live in ghettos where the ordinary rules of society don't apply. Regardless of your immigration status you have to send your kinds to school, where they are taught to speak English and to be 'proud Americans'. Something similar probably happens in the UK, at least for the language part.sakura wrote:(No offence, but) are they Spanish speakers?
One of my patients has lived here since 1973 and only speaks/understands Urdu and Hindi. She had no incentive to learn English as she hardly came across people who couldn't speak her languages in her everyday life. I'm sure it's the same with many older generation spanish speaking central/south Americans in the US.Marco 72 wrote:I have known people who lived in the US for 30+ years and still couldn't speak English.Dawie wrote:I'm still a bit confused about your inability to pass the Life in the UK test. How have you managed to live in the UK for more than 6 years and obtain ILR and yet still not have a good enough level of English to pass this test?
Marco 72 wrote:I have known people who lived in the US for 30+ years and still couldn't speak English.Dawie wrote:I'm still a bit confused about your inability to pass the Life in the UK test. How have you managed to live in the UK for more than 6 years and obtain ILR and yet still not have a good enough level of English to pass this test?
Many surgeries have staff who can speak foreign languages. One of the doctors at my local surgery in London speaks Hindi, Urdu and Punjabi. Speaking no English makes things more difficult, but not impossible.pantaiema wrote:- If they need to visit GP how do they explain to the doctor so the GP could priscribethe right medicine.
- How could they read the letter that receive from untility companies, council taxes, etc ?
- How could they communicate with people in the supermarket, post office ?
That's true. And of course, as Judy implies above, it is generally very much easier for children to learn a language than it is for adults, and for many older adults it can be particularly difficult. Children's brains are "wired" in such a way that they are natural learners of language, without really needing to "study" if they are young enough, whereas most adults' are not. (This is natural enough, really, since it is usually as children that we need to learn to speak.)Marco 72 wrote:...Regardless of your immigration status you have to send your kinds to school, where they are taught to speak English and to be 'proud Americans'. Something similar probably happens in the UK, at least for the language part.
You have free medical care all over Europe, plus wouldn't need a visa to work in other European countries etc. No shooting at Universities or schools here in Europe, no junk food you head back to the states on holiday nice and slim. lolchocodream wrote:I am an ILR holder, basically, I have lived in the UK for more than 6 years already. I am having a problem with the UK life test, I found it's very difficult to pass.
Anyway, my question is ,if I don't apply the naturalisation , can I still get all types of benefits , especially the pension ?
Apart from the nationality, what are the main differences between ILR and citizenship?
Thank you very much for your help^^
Yes, but that is only in the most exceptional cases. Criminal convictions would not normally cause revocation of citizenship, although you'd still have to do the jail time.ismangil wrote:Ah, not too sure about this! I believe with the oath etc, if we "break the vow" like becoming a ter---ist, they can strip the citizenship away...JAJ wrote:- you cant be deported
The difference between holding an ILR and Citizenship is:chocodream wrote:I am an ILR holder, basically, I have lived in the UK for more than 6 years already. I am having a problem with the UK life test, I found it's very difficult to pass.
Anyway, my question is ,if I don't apply the naturalisation , can I still get all types of benefits , especially the pension ?
Apart from the nationality, what are the main differences between ILR and citizenship?
Thank you very much for your help^^
Although, if you are a Commonwealth citizen living in the UK (not necessarily one with ILR, either), you can vote in all elections. You can also be called to serve on a jury.remontado wrote: 2. Right of election