deception in previous application

[destination]

Hi everyone,
My visa application was refused on feb 2009 for deception as i applied through Cambridge college. I was not given right to appeal as i still had visa for another 2 months. the letter also stated i could stay for that time and would not have to leave immediately.

so I stayed in the UK, got admission in another college and got visa extension. eventually i completed 10 years and got ILR. I got married back home and brought wife here. now she has got ILR too. we have a son who is 2 years old and got a British passport.

After the refusal i got extension twice and the got ILR.

question is if i want to apply for citizenship do i need to declare this, or it is not in their record? or what is the worst can happen?

[david1955]

Hi everyone,
My visa application was refused on feb 2009 for deception as i applied through Cambridge college. I was not given right to appeal as i still had visa for another 2 months. the letter also stated i could stay for that time and would not have to leave immediately.

so I stayed in the UK, got admission in another college and got visa extension. eventually i completed 10 years and got ILR. I got married back home and brought wife here. now she has got ILR too. we have a son who is 2 years old and got a British passport.

After the refusal i got extension twice and the got ILR.

question is if i want to apply for citizenship do i need to declare this, or it is not in their record? or what is the worst can happen?

you would be eligible to apply for citizenship from feb 2019

The worse that can happen right now is you will lose your application fee. And if you apply now and you dont declare your previous deception then this will form another deception

[destination]

thanks for the response. what worries me is i never mentioned about this in any visa extension application. the intention was not to hide deception, i believed i did not use deception. However, will not mentioning about this be considered as another deception when i apply for citizenship?

[david1955]

thanks for the response. what worries me is i never mentioned about this in any visa extension application. the intention was not to hide deception, i believed i did not use deception. However, will not mentioning about this be considered as another deception when i apply for citizenship?

If in Feb 2009 , home office refused your application based upon deception. Then you will have to declare it. Doesn't matter whether you apply now or in Feb 2019 you will have to declare it..

But applying now will definitely be guaranteeing you a refusal
Applying now and not declaring the deception will ban you for another 10 years from the date of refusal

[destination]

thanks again. yes I got the point. I will apply after Feb 2019 and also will declare the refusal based on deception. My question is, because I did not mention about this refusal on applications I made after that refusal (that includes ILR too), will those be considered as deception too?

[david1955]

thanks again. yes I got the point. I will apply after Feb 2019 and also will declare the refusal based on deception. My question is, because I did not mention about this refusal on applications I made after that refusal (that includes ILR too), will those be considered as deception too?

No, If they were considered as deception you wouldn't have been granted extensions or ILR

[destination]

thank you once again. I will wait till feb 2019 then.