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Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by mj.ryan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:39 pm

My friend passed her A1 English language test in 2013 and got a spouse's visa for 30 months. That visa expires in early 2016. When she applies for Further Leave to Remain, to get a visa for another 30 months, will she have to take the A1 exam again? The exam she took is not one that is on the government's revised list, which came into force in November 2015. Her exam was valid at the time she took it, but would it still be valid now for her FLR application?

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Re: Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by Casa » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:44 pm

No it won't. She will need to take a test that is on the new approved list.
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Re: Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by dmacm01 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:59 pm

FLR M changers 19 nov 2015
hi, I'm currently in the process of checking my wife's application to discover a new form were up dated on the 19/11/2015 version 11/15 which hasn't gave me much time with my premium service appointment booked for 27/11/15, to my discovery there's a change to the form where an approved English test is required called SELT with limited approved centres, what the form don't explain is if its possible to still use the ESOL she passed in February this year,

I was under the impression that any approved English Test taken for the the first spouse settlement visa was acceptable for the second half of the 5 year route..ie..Further Leave to remain..even though it was not recognised now for new applicants....ie..If you had an A1 test for your first spouse visa it was acceptable whatever it was..please can anyone advise if the ESOL can be used or will she need the SELT very quickly.


Yes, this still is the case. You are allowed to use the "old" English Language test pass if it was used as part of a previous successful settlement visa application.

The Immigration Directorate Instructions Appendix FM Section 1.21 English Language Requirement (November 2015) has just been updated following last week's Supreme Court ruling that the English Language requirement is lawful. The Supreme Court did, however, indicate that there were issues with the guidance for this requirement which HM Government has been remarkably swift to address!

The good news is that page 10 of the updated Appendix FM Section 1.21 (November 2015) states:

"2.5. Applicants who already have a test certificate or result

A partner or parent applying for leave to enter or leave to remain is not required to provide evidence of meeting the English language requirement if they have done so as part of a successful previous application as a partner or parent. Paragraph 32D of Appendix FM-SE provides for when this earlier test certificate or result can and cannot be used."

Appendix FM-SE was updated on 20th November 2015, and Paragraph 32D states:

"32D. If an applicant applying for limited leave to enter or remain under Part 8 or Appendix FM submits an English language test certificate or result and the Home Office has already accepted it as part of a successful previous partner or parent application (but not where the application was refused, even if on grounds other than the English language requirement), the decision-maker may accept that certificate or result as valid if it is:


(a) from a provider which is no longer approved, or
(b) from a provider who remains approved but the test the applicant has taken with that provider is no longer approved, or
(c) from a test centre which is no longer approved, or
(d) past its validity date (if a validity date is required under Appendix O), provided that when the subsequent application is made:
(i) the applicant has had continuous leave (disregarding any period of overstaying of no more than 28 days) as a partner or parent since the Home Office accepted the test certificate as valid; and
(ii) the award to the applicant does not fall within the circumstances set out in paragraph 32B of this Appendix."

We just went through this process and I was in the same boat as you. I rang the Home Office and checked. You can use the old test if it was part of a previous application. I know others have also said this but I thought I would give an extra piece of reassurance!

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Re: Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by dmacm01 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:42 pm

I should have posted the under-noted link

http://thailand-uk.com/forums/showthrea ... 9-nov-2015

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Re: Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by mj.ryan » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:04 pm

Thank you dmacm01 for that detailed, helpful answer. Finally, some solid, reliable information. I'm most grateful.

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Re: Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by Ladamcut » Thu May 05, 2016 8:51 pm

Hi all,

Sorry to revive an old thread but I'm having similar doubts to your friend, m.j.ryan. My wife got her initial 30 month visa with an IELTS (8.5!) but this was not from a SELT centre so would not now be valid for a new application. Also, being an IELTS, it has now expired.

The wording in 32D quoted by dmacm01 worries me for a couple of reasons so I'm seeking reassurance that people are not experiencing trouble with this. Firstly, the use of the word "may" is troubling as it implies the immigration officer can simply choose to ignore the provision in 32D. I guess this isn't common in practice? Secondly, the list in 32D says "or" rather than "and/or". My wife's certificate is both "(c) from a test centre which is no longer approved" AND "(d) past its validity date". Does anyone know if this is likely to be a problem?

My wife can take another English test if necessary but we'd like to avoid the hassle and expense if possible!

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Re: Is A1 pass of 2013 valid for FLR 2016?

Post by DavidT » Sun May 08, 2016 11:03 am

I found this on another form

Varaporn, you are applying for FLR(M) in May, so you're fine.

Just to reassure everyone applying for FLR(M) before October 2016, here is the definitive current Home Office guidance.

Appendix FM-SE applies:

"32D. If an applicant applying for limited leave to enter or remain under Part 8 or Appendix FM submits an English language test certificate or result and the Home Office has already accepted it as part of a successful previous partner or parent application (but not where the application was refused, even if on grounds other than the English language requirement), the decision-maker may accept that certificate or result as valid if it is:
(a) from a provider which is no longer approved, or
(b) from a provider who remains approved but the test the applicant has taken with that provider is no longer approved, or
(c) from a test centre which is no longer approved, or
(d) past its validity date (if a validity date is required under Appendix O), provided that when the subsequent application is made:
(i) the applicant has had continuous leave (disregarding any period of overstaying of no more than 28 days) as a partner or parent since the Home Office accepted the test certificate as valid; and
(ii) the award to the applicant does not fall within the circumstances set out in paragraph 32B of this Appendix."



This means that if your previous CEFR level A1 pass was accepted by the Home Office for your initial successful entry clearance application then that pass is still valid for your FLR(M) application. It doesn't matter that it was a Cambridge BULATS or KET exam.

The Home Office has proposed that the English language requirement should be raised from CEFR level A1 to CEFR level A2 for FLR(M) with effect from October 2016 but has yet to publish further details. My guess is that Trinity and Cambridge are busy putting together submissions for a CEFR level A2 secure English language test (SELT) which fits what the Home Office wants

I phoned UKVI and they confirmed above is correct.

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