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Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:43 pm

Hi there

I am a bit confused what to do next! I recently received my PR but i am not sure if i can apply for British citizenship in a year... My first contact with HO was in 2009 and i heard about the 10years rule last week.. Prior to that i was illegally in the UK for 5 years.

Can someone tell me if i have to wait till 2019 or i can apply in a year time??

Thanks

Pablo

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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Casa » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:48 pm

2019 due to your previous period of illegal residence.
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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:10 pm

Casa wrote:2019 due to your previous period of illegal residence.
Thanks for your prompt reply.

Will it start from the date of acknowledging my coa? Or the date on my RC?

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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by noajthan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:33 pm

Pablo1987 wrote:... Prior to that i was illegally in the UK for 5 years.

Can someone tell me if i have to wait till 2019 or i can apply in a year time??

Thanks
Pablo
When did your illegal stay commence :?:
9.5 Illegal Entry
In circumstances where an applicant entered the UK illegally, an application for citizenship should normally be refused for a period of 10 years from the date of entry, if it is known.

If it is not known, the period of 10 years starts from the date on which the person first brought themselves to or came to the attention of the Home Office
Ref HO guidance on this vital matter:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _D_v02.pdf
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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:45 pm

noajthan wrote:
Pablo1987 wrote:... Prior to that i was illegally in the UK for 5 years.

Can someone tell me if i have to wait till 2019 or i can apply in a year time??

Thanks
Pablo
When did your illegal stay commence :?:
9.5 Illegal Entry
In circumstances where an applicant entered the UK illegally, an application for citizenship should normally be refused for a period of 10 years from the date of entry, if it is known.

If it is not known, the period of 10 years starts from the date on which the person first brought themselves to or came to the attention of the Home Office
Ref HO guidance on this vital matter:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _D_v02.pdf
Thanks. I came to UK in 03 January 2004. Why does it matter ? Would they believe me if i put it in the application?

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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by noajthan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:57 pm

Pablo1987 wrote:
noajthan wrote:
9.5 Illegal Entry
In circumstances where an applicant entered the UK illegally, an application for citizenship should normally be refused for a period of 10 years from the date of entry, if it is known.

If it is not known, the period of 10 years starts from the date on which the person first brought themselves to or came to the attention of the Home Office
Ref HO guidance on this vital matter:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _D_v02.pdf
Thanks. I came to UK in 03 January 2004. Why does it matter ? Would they believe me if i put it in the application?
HO won't believe you without supporting evidence.

It matters because any ban will run from entry or from when HO became aware of it - whichever is later.
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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:00 pm

HO will also be very interested to know what you did in the UK for 5 years without any legal status (i.e. did you work and with what proof of residence and right to work)?
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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:26 pm

"It matters because any ban will run from entry or from when HO became aware of it - whichever is later"

Well i entered illegally back in 2004 and never made any contact with HO until 2009 when i applied for COA to get married. So technically from what i understand from you is 2009 the 10 years start???

Thanks

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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:27 pm

CR001 wrote:HO will also be very interested to know what you did in the UK for 5 years without any legal status (i.e. did you work and with what proof of residence and right to work)?
Cash in hand as Barber

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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by noajthan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:29 pm

Pablo1987 wrote:"It matters because any ban will run from entry or from when HO became aware of it - whichever is later"

Well i entered illegally back in 2004 and never made any contact with HO until 2009 when i applied for COA to get married. So technically from what i understand from you is 2009 the 10 years start???

Thanks
Unless it starts in 2011 as you mentioned illegal for (past) 5 years.

So either from 2009 or 2011 based on your outline plus the HO guidance.
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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:35 pm

So likely you paid no tax on your earnings then??

You do realise that you have to declare your employment on the form (as the rules stand now)
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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:46 pm

noajthan wrote:
Pablo1987 wrote:"It matters because any ban will run from entry or from when HO became aware of it - whichever is later"

Well i entered illegally back in 2004 and never made any contact with HO until 2009 when i applied for COA to get married. So technically from what i understand from you is 2009 the 10 years start???

Thanks
Unless it starts in 2011 as you mentioned illegal for (past) 5 years.

So either from 2009 or 2011 based on your outline plus the HO guidance.
2011?? Why? I was illegal between 2004 to mid 2009 (date i got my RC) i been legal since then

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Re: Citizenship after PR

Post by Pablo1987 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:47 pm

CR001 wrote:So likely you paid no tax on your earnings then??

You do realise that you have to declare your employment on the form (as the rules stand now)
Well yes i been paying taxes since 2009 but not before as i did not have an nino

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