Only for the UK Skilled Worker visas, formerly known as Tier 2 visa route
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by nicholasv » Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:05 pm
Hi all,
My employer is currently undertaking the RLMT in order to apply for a Restricted CoS for my new Tier 2 General Visa. We want everything completed ahead of March 5th so we can be considered for the March 11th release of CoS'. The ads all went up 1st February, so this should allow the 28 days to be complete before they apply for the CoS. Only issue is that two of the ads have an 'expiry' date of 2nd March and 14th March. As these expiry dates are technically beyond the 28 days required, will this be an issue?
Also, is there a process my employer needs to undergo after the RLMT is complete other than just applying for the Restricted CoS? Do they need to provide all relevant documents/screenshots/applications somewhere ahead of applying for the Restricted Cos?
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by nicholasv » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:04 pm
sorry to bump this, but would anybody have any guidance?
thanks
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by Frontier Mole » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:16 pm
Two points here
1. RLMT has to be advertised for a minimum of 28 days so regardless of the closing date being beyond 28 days it meets the needs.
2. You are already employed..... Kinda says the RLMT is a nonsense then...... You are obviously a pre selected candidate and by definition the RLMT has not been conducted in a fair and open manner.
Good luck going forward I hear the words sponsor licence revocation......
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by sunny007 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:32 pm
nicholasv wrote:Hi all,
Only issue is that two of the ads have an 'expiry' date of 2nd March and 14th March. As these expiry dates are technically beyond the 28 days required, will this be an issue?
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One of the member on this forum visa was rejected previously , as the JOB advertise date was not closed and company issue a COS, so its mean JOb advertisement expiry is OPen then it is still open for EU/UK applicants, so don't apply in March and wait for April , if you want to keep your-self on safe side. I'm trying to search the link for you but didn't get that. Hope any one share that link or guide
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by daeijan » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:04 am
Hi there, home office has a telephone number which you can call and ask, they have the most updated answer and are really helpful! Frontier Mole's info are really outdated and totally wrong....
the number is: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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by Frontier Mole » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:20 am
daeijan wrote:Hi there, home office has a telephone number which you can call and ask, they have the most updated answer and are really helpful! Frontier Mole's info are really outdated and totally wrong....
the number is: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
good luck
My info is totally outdated and wrong..... Really..... If only you knew what you were talking about.....
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by nicholasv » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:15 pm
Frontier Mole wrote:
2. You are already employed..... Kinda says the RLMT is a nonsense then...... You are obviously a pre selected candidate and by definition the RLMT has not been conducted in a fair and open manner.
Good luck going forward I hear the words sponsor licence revocation......
They need to apply for a Restricted CoS for me - therefore undertake the RLMT.. If I've been a good employee for close to two years on my Tier 5 visa (hence why they want to sponsor me), and they wish to keep me on, how are they meant to do so otherwise..? If the entire process is undertaken correctly then I don't see why it should be an issue if I am currently employed with them or not..
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by Wanderer » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:18 pm
nicholasv wrote:Frontier Mole wrote:
2. You are already employed..... Kinda says the RLMT is a nonsense then...... You are obviously a pre selected candidate and by definition the RLMT has not been conducted in a fair and open manner.
Good luck going forward I hear the words sponsor licence revocation......
They need to apply for a Restricted CoS for me - therefore undertake the RLMT.. If I've been a good employee for close to two years on my Tier 5 visa (hence why they want to sponsor me), and they wish to keep me on, how are they meant to do so otherwise..? If the entire process is undertaken correctly then I don't see why it should be an issue if I am currently employed with them or not..
They can't. It's a catch 22 situation, you've effectively been pre-selected and it would be very difficult to disprove that.
FM knows his stuff believe me, the other guy is talking out of his arse.
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by nicholasv » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:27 pm
Wanderer wrote:nicholasv wrote:Frontier Mole wrote:
2. You are already employed..... Kinda says the RLMT is a nonsense then...... You are obviously a pre selected candidate and by definition the RLMT has not been conducted in a fair and open manner.
Good luck going forward I hear the words sponsor licence revocation......
They need to apply for a Restricted CoS for me - therefore undertake the RLMT.. If I've been a good employee for close to two years on my Tier 5 visa (hence why they want to sponsor me), and they wish to keep me on, how are they meant to do so otherwise..? If the entire process is undertaken correctly then I don't see why it should be an issue if I am currently employed with them or not..
They can't. It's a catch 22 situation, you've effectively been pre-selected and it would be very difficult to disprove that.
FM knows his stuff believe me, the other guy is talking out of his arse.
haha yeah I tried to call the number he left and it definitely wasn't the Home Office.
Right.. I'm really confused now. How are they otherwise meant to sponsor me under a Tier 2 visa? That seems ridiculous. Are you saying I have no chance despite undergoing everything correctly and as outlined in all policy guidelines..?
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by noajthan » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:31 pm
nicholasv wrote:haha yeah I tried to call the number he left and it definitely wasn't the Home Office.
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by Frontier Mole » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:38 pm
It is an issue that can be overcome moving from Tier 5 YMS to Tier 2 but it is not without difficulties.
The tighter rules in regards RLMT have made it easier to refuse a Tier 2 visa in country or out of country.
There is a general shift in the ECO perception on RLMT and any previous employment under another visa type begs the question was the RLMT fair and open. Given your circumstances your employer is going to go a long long way to produce a convincing argument that there was no other UK/EEA resident to fill the role. Even then if the ECO feels that the RLMT was contrived in any way they will still refuse the visa.
If your role is highly specialised and very well paid then there is less to worry about.
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by daeijan » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:54 pm
I apologise if I made a mistake to provide the correct number.
That's strange! because I took the phone number from here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -employers
click on the PDF form and search for:
"Contact point for queries"
OR see page 4 of 160 and you will see the number and email address.
I'm in a similar situation ad tried to help.
Anyway just FYI you can contact HO and ask them directly.
hope it helps,
good luck
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by CR001 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:01 pm
daeijan wrote:I apologise if I made a mistake to provide the correct number.
That's strange! because I took the phone number from here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -employers
click on the PDF form and search for:
"Contact point for queries"
OR see page 4 of 160 and you will see the number and email address.
I'm in a similar situation ad tried to help.
Anyway just FYI you can contact HO and ask them directly.
hope it helps,
good luck
The number you quoted was definitely not the 0345 number that appears in this guidance notes.
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by nicholasv » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:08 pm
Frontier Mole wrote:It is an issue that can be overcome moving from Tier 5 YMS to Tier 2 but it is not without difficulties.
The tighter rules in regards RLMT have made it easier to refuse a Tier 2 visa in country or out of country.
There is a general shift in the ECO perception on RLMT and any previous employment under another visa type begs the question was the RLMT fair and open. Given your circumstances your employer is going to go a long long way to produce a convincing argument that there was no other UK/EEA resident to fill the role. Even then if the ECO feels that the RLMT was contrived in any way they will still refuse the visa.
If your role is highly specialised and very well paid then there is less to worry about.
fingers crossed it won't be an issue. it is quite specialised, and they've received no applications through Job Centre for the position - which says something at least.
if the ECO refuses the visa what happens - will my employer have to put forward a case? I'm just a bit confused as to what point and when they will need to prove the results of the RLMT.
thanks for your help! really appreciate it.
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by Frontier Mole » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:11 am
Have they also met the other requirements for advertising?
Saying there is no interest from Universal Job Match / Job Centre is fairly meaningless. It is rare to recruit from that source. It is a requirement because it can be verified Government to Government department. It is of little value as a measure of job role interest.
The real test is the outcomes from the more commercial job sites, reed, monster, etc etc.
As you require a restricted COS the information they supply to the panel is to a higher standard and gets scrutinised. BUT even if the RCOS is issued it does not prevent the ECO from refusing. The issue of the RCOS only confers the right to issue it, not that the whole process is rubber stamped and approved.
I was not impossible to jump from Tier 5 to Tier 2, it does happen. It will come down to the RLMT evidence and how the ECO feels about your more than probable pre selection.
If the role is highly specialised in reality and not just set up that way to minimise other applications then that is good.