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child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:41 am

Hi I am first time writing ,but readind this forum from long time,Its so much informative.
My question is I got Ilr recently ,I applied for my daudhter born uk mn1 form.My wife and one son born abroad will complete 10 legall years in june 2016,
Now As i will apply for my wife on form set LR ,10 years long residency,
What is best option for my son under 12 born abroad but leaving uk nearly 10 years legall ,to apply for ilr.
2nd question can i book an appointment for them now for june 2016 premier same day
service before increasing fee in march 18, 2016.
Both my wife and son can booked same day appointment togather how?
Both of them use two separate forms set LR? or one.
Is there any other option for my son to apply for british citizen coast less,he has valid discreationary leave untill dec 2016,but he will complete 10 legall years in uk on june 2016.
Kind regards,now waiting for response,Immigration processes make us use to with waiting,So does't matter for another wait for reply.

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:52 am

yasman wrote:What is best option for my son under 12 born abroad but leaving uk nearly 10 years legall ,to apply for ilr. Have a look at form Set(F) for your child.

2nd question can i book an appointment for them now for june 2016 premier same day No, it is too early for June appointments. Appointments are currently only available 4 weeks in advance.

service before increasing fee in march 18, 2016. You will have to pay the new fees.

Both my wife and son can booked same day appointment togather how? 2 Separate appointments.

Both of them use two separate forms set LR? or one. Separate forms. Set(LR) for your wife does not allow dependents.

Is there any other option for my son to apply for british citizen coast less,he has valid discreationary leave untill dec 2016,but he will complete 10 legall years in uk on june 2016. No, he needs ILR before he can apply for citizenship if he was born abroad.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:38 am

Thanks a lot for your quick and full of informations reply.I have checked form F details.
As i am only got ILR my wife and son in quentioned are on discreationary leaves,will complete 10 legall years in june 2016.there leave valid untill dec 2016.
Form F say one of parent settelle and have sole resposibilty,which is confusing because the son is the resposibilty of both of us parents,like we both look after our son,So do you think i can use form F in that case for my son and what documents do i need to submit with it.I want to apply before new fee starts.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:44 am

No, it does not say that. Where of form Set(F) is it saying that?
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:51 am

Thanks a lot for your kind reply.I Just read the guidence of set F, You are write i understood wrong but can i ask you keeping in mind my circumstances stated in my first two mails do my son qualify for applying in form F? or its better to wait 3 more month for completing 10 years of his uk stay?The difference in both cases are in form f i can apply before 18 march raise of fee and in se LR i have to pay New fee which will be little difficult for me ,regards

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:01 pm

Set F when your child reaches 10 years long residence.

On what basis did you get ILR (10 years or 5 years PBS)?
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:44 pm

I got my ilr on 10 years long residency set LR.it mean I can apply form F after he spend 10 legal years .so than why not set le which I used for my self.i want to apply for him before he complete 10 years .so what will your advise can I or not?if yes than how?please help.thanks

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:53 pm

You can't apply for him before he reaches 10 years as he does not hold a valid visa for any other route. You applying for ILR on 10 years long residence means your dependents should switch to FLR(M).

Not sure if he can use Set(LR) but even if he can, he still cannot apply so early before June 2016 when he reaches 10 years residence.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:31 pm

He have discretionary leave valid until Dec 2016,

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:06 pm

You said your wife and son reach 10 years residence in June 2016, they can apply no sooner than 28 days before the 10th anniversary of entering the UK provided they meet the requirement. So no, you cannot apply before 18 March, it is too early.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:13 am

Hi thanks for replying .According to advice Now i am planning to apply for both my wife and son on form set LR 10 years long residency on june 2016.Again questions arise that
1)I will use two separate forms Lr for my wife and son under twelve?
2)Can i get one same day appointement for them ,if yes than how?
3)I have same supporting documents for both applications,so if i use these supporting documents for one set and appointment than what is for other one ,if lukely i got two same day appointment on one date for both of them.tan how can i handle both?
In short as i will travel far for any appointment centre therefore i want to book for same day,and also it will be more worthfull in terms of applications,
So please advise me how can i present two set of form lr of my wife and my son same day
or if possible at same appointment by paying for them separatly.Can i make a one envelop of two diffrent application or any other suggestion please?

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:25 am

Hi need some expert opinion please
I just called home office customer service he said that i need to apply for my wife 10 years bases on form set LR and for my son 12 years on form set F.
they both are in UK legall 9 years and 9 months and i got ILR last month .
Applying for them after completion of 10 years but two different advises from HO and this forum.
HO says set F and this forum says set LR.
Now i request some expert for detail answer of this confusion please.
Set LR or Set F for 12 years son leaving 9 years and 9 month legally in uk having visa untill dec 2016.
Father is ILR and mother on discreationar leave will apply for ILR on june 2016.
Also if set F so can i apply before 10 years of his legall completion before 18 th march because fee increase ? and i think set form F is not for 10 years of long resident catagory.
Please help and reply in details by some experienced person .thanks

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:47 am

I did say Set(F) did I not?

No, even on Set(F) you cannot apply before he qualifies for 10 years long residence.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:07 am

Hi CR001 yes you did advise the same as HO ,thanks for that i was just mentioning about last reply of some other person.Your all replies were excellent and based on truly curent immigration rules ,very helpfull.thanks again.

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:33 am

Vinny's advice is also correct.

However, the main concern you seem to have is applying before the fee increase and the answer is no, you can't.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by vinny » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:56 am

SET(F) is also possible for child only when the requirements under A280(b), 298-299 are met.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by yasman » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:03 pm

Hi croo1 As you said venny's also says right means form set Lr also can be used for my son under 12 years born in pakistan ,living in uk from last 9 years and 9 month all leagal having valid discreationay leave untill dec 2016.
Now once again confused how can i use any one from set LR and SET F.whats the difference between them?
Can some under 18 use form set lr after completing 10 years long residence in different depandent catogies or not?
If your answer is yes than i think set LR is more straight forward form and i already did for my self,so i will use form set LR insted of Set F.
Do you agree with me for using Set LR or not?
Any important point which you want to add please add,because i am doing the application
by my own without help of solictor.
One last question as i am planning two premium appointment for them at same day but have supporting documents all same for both applications ,So what will be the best option to present two different set LR for my wife and son on same day with same supporting documents.
Thanks in advance for all your help.

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:40 am

Either form will probably be ok. Set(F) is only for children under 18 and for when they are applying alone.

2 appointments, one after the other. What supporting documents are you referring to? Very little is needed for long residence applications.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by asimshah » Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:14 am

HI Guys
Please I need some urgent Help
I was reading this post and Spoken with HO And Now I am very confused I dont know what should I do
I am on ILR Jan2015 on long residence basis my wife got ILR May 2015 on long residence basis
My son born in Pakistan he is in UK from 11 Years And 11 Months
I want to apply for his ILR
I am confused I should use Set(LR) or Set(F)
Set(LR) is very straight forward and I used for my self and my wife and "I Think" should be ok to use for ILR

Called Home Office the lady was saying SET(F) but when I said why not set(lR) she did not have any answer and asked me to write public enquiry for detailed information which form I have to use

Set(F) very confusing lot of questions about benefits I am getting Tax credits and Child Benefit will it affect my son application. If you can please help me on these questions and what documents I need with Set(F) will highly appreciate prompt reply on this please

But I booked appointment because want to avoid Fee Increase I chose Set f in the appointment details. So i did right? or wrong? but got appointment for 21 March (But they charged me the old Fee will they charge extra when I go to appointment?)

I know it is confusing but please guide me what should I do specially with Set(F) SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by vinny » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:21 am

If he satisfies the requirements for both options, then it's your choice.
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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by asimshah » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:16 pm

Hi Guys
Thanks to Viny and cr001 for your time and help
Alhumdulilah Got The ILR for my son applied on Set(F)
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My documents are in home office

Post by yasman » Sat May 07, 2016 10:27 am

Hi I am applying for my wife and son Indefinate leave to remain on june 20016 on 10 years long residency.I already got ILR,and one my daughter application for registration is in H.O.
My questions are:
1)As i had applied for my daughter Mni reg form on 29 feb 2016,and attached few supporting documents which we also need to submit with my wife and son's upcoming same day appointment date 6th june 2016.If my daughter mn1 reg not decided before 6th june which is look like than how can tell in appointment about that documents are in home office with another application.
Or i can request home office to send that orignal documents from mn1 application.
2)i had booked the two appointments before 18 march 16 with 1900 fee and keep changing dates if i could managed to changed the required date i.e 6th june 2016 ,will it be fine with old fee or i need to pay difference? and can i pay difference on the date of appointment or not?
Actually i dont want to cancell the booked appointment first and than re booked with new fee ,because by cancelation i will be refunded in couple of weeks ,and i don't have mony to pay nee fee while waiting for refund.
In brief how can i mention that our application with original documents is already in H.O as MN1 form?
and fee which i am keep changing to new dates prebooked before 18 marc?
I know my questions are complecared but hope some expert will comments on it soon.Thanks a lot this helpfull forum.

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Re: child under 12 years for ilr

Post by geriatrix » Sat May 07, 2016 1:09 pm

If you don't have the necessary documents with you that you need to submit in an ILR application then there is no point in applying in-person. The application will be deferred and you will end up wasting money paid for an in-person application.

I believe the application fee effective on the date on in-person appointment will apply.

Do note that MN1 applications are handled by nationality team and immigration application are handled by immigration teams. Both are two different vertical functions within the HO, not the same!

What documents have you sent with MN1 that you need for SET(LR)?
When is the current leave of the people applying for SET(LR) due to expire?
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english test selt unique refernce no

Post by yasman » Wed May 11, 2016 4:45 pm

Hi as i am filling up my wife and son form set lr ,in my wife form there is a column which say english test selt unique no ,Can some body tell me which no is on bi selt certificate.because there are two long no on bi selt certificate,one on bothom roght side of certificate and on in middle.Any advice which one is the asking no .Kind regards

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