Employee Hours Caculation.

[Ahmd_64]

Hi Guys,

I am on Entrepreneur Visa of £50K route. I have an employee who is working 25 hours a week from 18 months. I an confused about hours. Will 25 hours be considered part time equal to 15 hours per week or 25 hours? I thought if one employee does 100 hours a month and he will cover 3000 hours in two and half years and remaing hours i will hire another employee for 15 hours per week for last year.
Is my calculation right or 25 hours will be considered part time employee of 15 hours?

Please give me solid feedback according to the Appendix A.

Regards.

[FKS21177]

as far i know it will be counted 3000 hours but part-time and cant be counted towards second job. it will only cover one job hours (1560), his/her hours beyond 1560 will not be counted towards second job.

thats what i think i might be wrong

[Ahmd_64]

So they will not consider 3000 hours of 2 and half years as a full time employee? Should i hire another full time employee?

[FKS21177]

What i heard is that they will not consider hours of one employee towards 2nd job,means as many hours he/sho does will cover only one job... I might be wrong this is just my view coz i was thinking same that those who got visas before april 2014 only has to complete 3120 hours but recently few guys told me i was wrong.

I would suggest u not to risk it consult a legal expert about this issue.

[Ahmd_64]

I applied visa July 2013 and got visa in June 2014 when HO withdraw from Appeal. I think i am in old policy that one employe can cover two jobs if he work two year as a full time. Let me correct if i am wrong please.

[vfinancials]

Hi Guys,

I am on Entrepreneur Visa of £50K route. I have an employee who is working 25 hours a week from 18 months. I an confused about hours. Will 25 hours be considered part time equal to 15 hours per week or 25 hours? I thought if one employee does 100 hours a month and he will cover 3000 hours in two and half years and remaing hours i will hire another employee for 15 hours per week for last year.
Is my calculation right or 25 hours will be considered part time employee of 15 hours?

Please give me solid feedback according to the Appendix A.

Regards.

Hi, As far as I know, this will not be considered this way. Total number of hours in full tenure of employment should be 3000 hours plus each week you should have 30 hours a week. But you can compensate it with two part time employees.

The job has to be 30 hours. So one Employee is at 25 hours and another employee is on 10 hours. It will sum up and make a full time job. Extra 5 hours will not be counted in 3000 hours.

But if you have 4 employees, all together make 60 hours a week. It will be considered two jobs. and counted towards 3000 hours. In same if these 4 employees makes an aggregate of 59 hours that will be considered only one job and extra 29 hours will not be considered in total 3000 hours. Thats all my understanding. Don't take it as final word.

Pls correct me if I am wrong. I did concluded it after a long study and still I am confuse as I have exact same case. Where I have three employees.
1. 30 hours a week
2. 25 hours a week
3. 15 hours a week

They are my employee for last 18 months and I am still not sure if these will cover my full time employment for 12 full months.

P.S. I applied visa in January 2013 and expiring in January 2017. Feedback is requested pls.

[zimba]

I applied visa July 2013 and got visa in June 2014 when HO withdraw from Appeal. I think i am in old policy that one employe can cover two jobs if he work two year as a full time. Let me correct if i am wrong please.

You are wrong. Transitional arrangements cover only those who entered the route before April 2014 and so it doesn't apply to you as you entered the route in June 2014. The guide is very clear on this. The date you applied is irrelevant.

You must create two full time roles/jobs for 12 months each. Part time hours can be added to reach 30 hours a week ONLY if the part time jobs lasted for at least 12 months. Extra hours over 30 a week are also ignored.

So they will not consider 3000 hours of 2 and half years as a full time employee? Should i hire another full time employee?

No they won't. That is only allowed under transitional arrangements. Even under such arrangement, a part time worker who worked for two years is counted as one year full time job only because any total time over 30 hours a week is ignored.

You didn't even create a single full time job based on what you said.

[vfinancials]

You must create two full time roles/jobs for 12 months each. Part time hours can be added to reach 30 hours a week ONLY if the part time jobs lasted for at least 12 months. Extra hours over 30 a week are also ignored.

What if one employee is part time for 14 month for 25 hours a week. While another part time employee worked as 10 hours a week for 6 months. Can it be considered full time employment for 6 months? As both will add up number of hours to 35 a week for siz months.

[Mahir1108]

A quick question in this thread.

If I payed an employee by cash(all tax + NI declared to HMRC). Will it be a problem during extension.

[moongesture]

A quick question in this thread.

If I payed an employee by cash(all tax + NI declared to HMRC). Will it be a problem during extension.

Paying wages via cash will not be a problem if you are reporting PAYE appropriately to HMRC.

[Ahmd_64]

I applied visa July 2013 and got visa in June 2014 when HO withdraw from Appeal. I think i am in old policy that one employe can cover two jobs if he work two year as a full time. Let me correct if i am wrong please.

You are wrong. Transitional arrangements cover only those who entered the route before April 2014 and so it doesn't apply to you as you entered the route in June 2014. The guide is very clear on this. The date you applied is irrelevant.
Please read Appendix A table 5 or 6. It says those who apply before April 2014 they will not be supposed to have 2 full time or 4 part times employees separate.
I am in pre April 2014 policy when one employee can cover two full time employees job if he work full time for two years. Please read appendix A. This will clear you. My question is about total number of hours and calculation. My employee has done 1854 hours in 18/19 months. How many hours will be considered? Has he completed one full time job after doing 1854 hours in 18/19 months as a 24.5 or 25/week.

You must create two full time roles/jobs for 12 months each. Part time hours can be added to reach 30 hours a week ONLY if the part time jobs lasted for at least 12 months. Extra hours over 30 a week are also ignored.

So they will not consider 3000 hours of 2 and half years as a full time employee? Should i hire another full time employee?

No they won't. That is only allowed under transitional arrangements. Even under such arrangement, a part time worker who worked for two years is counted as one year full time job only because any total time over 30 hours a week is ignored.

You didn't even create a single full time job based on what you said.

[Ahmd_64]

I applied visa July 2013 and got visa in June 2014 when HO withdraw from Appeal. I think i am in old policy that one employe can cover two jobs if he work two year as a full time. Let me correct if i am wrong please.

You are wrong. Transitional arrangements cover only those who entered the route before April 2014 and so it doesn't apply to you as you entered the route in June 2014. The guide is very clear on this. The date you applied is irrelevant.
Please read Appendix A table 5 or 6. It says those who apply before April 2014 they will not be supposed to have 2 full time or 4 part times employees separate.
I am in pre April 2014 policy when one employee can cover two full time employees job if he work full time for two years. Please read appendix A. This will clear you. My question is about total number of hours and calculation. My employee has done 1854 hours in 18/19 months. How many hours will be considered? Has he completed one full time job after doing 1854 hours in 18/19 months as a 24.5 or 25/week.



You must create two full time roles/jobs for 12 months each. Part time hours can be added to reach 30 hours a week ONLY if the part time jobs lasted for at least 12 months. Extra hours over 30 a week are also ignored.

So they will not consider 3000 hours of 2 and half years as a full time employee? Should i hire another full time employee?

No they won't. That is only allowed under transitional arrangements. Even under such arrangement, a part time worker who worked for two years is counted as one year full time job only because any total time over 30 hours a week is ignored.

You didn't even create a single full time job based on what you said.

You are wrong. Transitional arrangements cover only those who entered the route before April 2014 and so it doesn't apply to you as you entered the route in June 2014. The guide is very clear on this. The date you applied is irrelevant.
Please read Appendix A table 5 or 6. It says those who apply before April 2014 they will not be supposed to have 2 full time or 4 part times employees separate.
I am in pre April 2014 policy when one employee can cover two full time employees job if he work full time for two years. Please read appendix A. This will clear you. My question is about total number of hours and calculation. My employee has done 1854 hours in 18/19 months. How many hours will be considered? Has he completed one full time job after doing 1854 hours in 18/19 months as a 24.5 or 25/week.

[zimba]

I misread your application details. Given that you applied for visa before April 2014 and managed to get the successfully, you are covered by transitional arrangements.
According to immigration rules, the part time hours can be added up together to reach 30 hours a week. Given that the rules are not clear enough, you better keep your employee for full 24 months so the hours can be combined to reach full time job of more than 30 hours a week.