Tax doc for past IT contracting

[Human]

Hi,
I came here 6 year ago for work with Tier 1 General visa and got ILR an year ago . My work history is as below

first 1 and 1/2 year - Permanent Employment - PAYE
1/2 year - IT contracting - Director & Employee of my own Ltd company - Company closed 4 years ago.
Last 4 years ( Still continuing) - Permanent Employment - PAYE

I have called HMRC on 01355359022 and asked for my employment history . They said that they can only find my permanent job details & he will send the details to my home address This made me worried.

The friendly person on the phone (HMRC) gave me another HMRC phone number (03002003814 payment enquiry) to check about my Ltd company. The person on the phone (payment enquiry) confirmed verbally that taxes are paid for the Ltd company.

But Can I ask for a documentary proof ? What is that document called ? Which number to call ? Any idea why these details are not recorded as employment history ? Should I be worried ? Please advise?

Regards,
Human

[Wanderer]

Don't you have your P60's and SA302 self-assessments for the contracting period?

[kankerot]

I think the requirement is that you must keep your limited company records for 6 years so the onus is on you to prove your income.

Companies House will have your record for your company or ask the accountant you used. Didn't they email you a copy for your reference?

[Human]

Thanks a lot wanderer & Kankerot.My company was active from Nov 2011 to May 2012 of that I only did IT contracting for initial 3 months . No, There are no P60s. But I can see something called P30 with each payslip. My basic salary as an employee for my limited company was 600 GBP per month . Each of the P30s show tax due to HMRC as zero.

May be my company was setup in a way that I will only pay tax as a director . Am I safe as they have confirmed that corporation tax is paid properly .

I don't have SA302. Can I call HMRC to get it or ? Do I have to call the same HMRC phone number where I asked employment history ?

[Wanderer]

Thanks a lot wanderer & Kankerot.My company was active from Nov 2011 to May 2012 of that I only did IT contracting for initial 3 months . No, There are no P60s. But I can see something called P30 with each payslip. My basic salary as an employee for my limited company was 600 GBP per month . Each of the P30s show tax due to HMRC as zero.

May be my company was setup in a way that I will only pay tax as a director . Am I safe as they have confirmed that corporation tax is paid properly .

I don't have SA302. Can I call HMRC to get it or ? Do I have to call the same HMRC phone number where I asked employment history ?

Did you draw dividends? Do you have the dividend vouchers?

Any Ltd company director has a obligation to fill in self-assessment (SA302) and UKVI are very hot on this now, look at all the tax issues on the forum these last few months.

Have you no P45 from when you stopped contracting? The contracting salary should be reflected in your subsequent employment P60 the following year, the P45 would have to have been given to your next employer after you finished contracting.

[Human]

Thanks Wanderer. You are very helpful.

I have called HMRC and asked for SA302. Unfortunately They can't find any details of my self assessment. It looks like I didn't file self assessment. Google search shows that for low income its not necessary to file self assessment.

For the 2011 - 2012 financial year , I was employee of my Ltd company from Nov to March (5 months). My salary per month was just above 600. My payslips clearly show that There is nothing due to HMRC. May be as I was permanent employee till October , I would have paid more tax than needed to HRMC (credit on my favour) . So I might not need to pay personal tax for the self employment. Anyway , This needs to be looked by an accountant.


Now the worrying part is 2012 - 2013 financial year . I have closed my Ltd company only in May . So I have drawed 2 months salary (600+600) on that financial year from my Ltd company. I joined my current company (I am working here for about 4 years now) in 2012 May. They have asked me for p45 . I gave them the p45 for my earlier permanent job. I was not aware that my own Ltd company has p45 . So 2 months salary with the Ltd company is not included with my 2012-2013 P60. It looks like a mess now.

Can I pay this possible missing tax for 2012-2013 now ? Any idea , I can fix this ? They would have checked this in ILR. right ? HMRC has already clarified that My Ltd company has paid the corporation tax. MY worry is with individual/personal tax . I am fully confused now.

[Human]

Briefly put the problem is ,

1. I haven't done self assessment for 2011 - 2012 period when I did IT contracting through my Ltd company

2. There is no P60 for the 2011-2012 period from my Ltd company

3.PAYE salary from my LTD company is not added to the P60 (generated by my present company) of 2012 -2013.

Given the facts that

1. HMRC has acknowledged that no tax is outstanding and corporation tax is paid properly.

2. My Ltd company was existing only for 5 months (I had contract work only for 2 months in that).

3. I got ILR

Should I be concerned ? Should I involve an accountant to fix this ? Please advise ?

[Human]

Thanks Wanderer and others for helping so far.

I have just received employment history for HMRC. Entries regarding my Ltd company is indeed there. But one of them is in negative and the other one is zero. Does this indicate that I owe some mone for HMRC ? I think I have overpaid tax to HMRC in the other job ? I am no expert in tax . Can somebody please clarify ?

Please see the content of letter for 2011-2013 period (when I did IT contracting) below.

Source Of income for tax year ended 5 apr 2012

Employer Start date End date Pay Tax Tax Code

PermJob1 01/08/2011 14/10/2011 12,564 2,527.60 747L
LtdCompany 08/11/2011 31/03/2012 2,864 (minus)-940.46 747L

Source Of income for tax year ended 5 apr 2013

Employer Start date End date Pay Tax Tax Code

ltdcompany 1,248 0.00 810L
PermJob2 14/05/2012 36,418 5,661.80 810L

Looks like PAYE tax is paid properly. HMRC has confirmed verbally that corporation tax is paid properly for my Ltd company as well. But to be on safer side with HO , Can I ask for some documentary proof for this from HMRC ? What is that document called? Any ideas ?

[kankerot]

The caseworker dealing with your case will not be a Tax specialist, they know laws and regulations pertaining to Naturalisation, if HMRC comes back saying everything is on order then you will be fine. They will go on what information they have on you. If HMRC are happy then so will be the HO.