Visa denied

[markojessa]

can anyone advise me, just got turned down on visa appeal,for my philipne wife,after waitin 18 months,i have an adress in ireland south and work there full time,also have adress in north ireland,we have been married 3yrs,not sure to apply for surrinder sign rout,or just go irish rout,but would rather live in north,please any advise we are goin crazy

[noajthan]

What visa was denied?
Why?
Have you been doing SS?

[markojessa]

uk visa was denied on the reason that because i was paid in cash all wages did not go direct to bank,it was join spouse visa

[markojessa]

sorry wat is ss

[noajthan]

sorry wat is ss

SS = Surinder Singh

[Petaltop]

I'm reading it as the OP saying that he lives in NI and his wife was refused a UK spouse visa. 18 months later, the appeal has now been refused too as he is paid in cash (lack of proof).

Now he is asking if he should use the SS instead as he lives in NI but works in RoI, but lives and wants to continue to live in NI. I assume his wife is still her own country, the Philippines?

Or if he should use the irish citiznership route for his wife as they want to stay in NI?

If you meet the financial requirements to sponosr your wife, can't you just get what the UK needs for that proof and apply again when you have what is reguired?
Have a read of what you must provide.
https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk/eligibility

[markojessa]

Iv heard they have stalled ss since brexit

[noajthan]

Iv heard they have stalled ss since brexit

You heard wrong.
Eire is slow with EU applications and paperwork - that's since before Brexit and not about SS in particular.

SS for Brits is still an option whilst UK is in EU.

Ofcourse, due to laws of space and time, it would now be very hard to acquire PR in the normal way afterwards (back in UK), but still SS is an option.

[markojessa]

Wats pr

[CR001]

Wats pr

PR = Permanent Residence

[markojessa]

Do i need to give up british passport

[noajthan]

Do i need to give up british passport

Your questions in bizarre text speak make very little sense.
What are you trying to achieve here?

For a start get up to speed on free movement, concepts, the basics, terminology & etc, here:
http://ec.europa.eu/justice/citizen/doc ... 013_en.pdf
When you have absorbed that, perform a gap analysis and come back with questions.

[markojessa]

my wife is philipina,i have beed workin in south ireland for 1yr to qualify for irish visa,having been turned down on uk visa for finance,how easy is it and how long will it take to renounce british citizenship to get my wife to uk

[noajthan]

To avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread (this one).

[Casa]

Hello

We are in a similar situation.

Did you renounce your UK citizenship? Can you get it back?

She is the Uk citizen and I am American. She is still in school and does not meet the income requirement for UKBA.

https://www.gov.uk/renounce-british-nat ... ationality

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-form-rs1

[Wanderer]

my wife is philipina,i have beed workin in south ireland for 1yr to qualify for irish visa,having been turned down on uk visa for finance,how easy is it and how long will it take to renounce british citizenship to get my wife to uk

In order for SS to work you need to cut all ties with the North, AIUI. Are you British only, or British and Irish?

[markojessa]

uk visa was denied

[ohara]

uk visa was denied

Rather than drip feeding random bits of information, why don't you just give a proper account of your circumstances? Nobody is going to be able to help you if you just post bits here and there like "uk visa was denied". Do you have any idea how many visa categories there are in the UK

You've also posted this in the EEA route forum, and there are no EEA visas!

[markojessa]

uk join spouse visa denied because,on finance,because i didnt put all cash wage in bank,im living in and working in rep ireland since march this yr,and i want to go back to n ireland with my wife who is still in philipines,does my wife need to be in ireland to apply,how long does it take,do i need to give up uk citizenship to apply for surrender sing rout

[noajthan]

uk join spouse visa denied because,on finance,because i didnt put all cash wage in bank,im living in and working in rep ireland since march this yr,and i want to go back to n ireland with my wife who is still in philipines,does my wife need to be in ireland to apply,how long does it take,do i need to give up uk citizenship to apply for surrender sing rout

Assuming you are dual Irish/British...

No, giving up citizenship is nothing to do with SS route.
SS is a means by which Brits may be considered as proxy EEA nationals despite being British.

Renouncing citizenship is unlikely to help you because even if you were 'only' an EU citizen UK is leaving EU soon anyway.
Irish citizens can always rely on CTA but that doesn't apply to dependents.
In fact if you were to become only Irish its unclear how you could exercise treaty rights in home country of Eire.

You would be able to move to UK if only Irish; however wife would still need to gain entry to UK.
Any/all transitional arrangements for such nationals once UK has left EU are unclear and yet to be put in place.

HO plays hardball and SS rules changed again only this month.
A move from N.Ireland to Eire is likely to be scrutinised.
If in Eire only since March suggest give it longer to truly move your centre of life to Eire.

With Brexit looming you probably only get one shot at this.
And be aware there's unlikely to be time for dependent to acquire PR in 'normal way' even after returning to UK (or if going there as Irish family).

[markojessa]

ok then,if i apply for vaf5 ,join family or spouse visa,will it be straight forward to apply fot that as i have adrees in south ireland with proof of that adress ,and use parents adress in n ireland to bring my wife there?

[noajthan]

ok then,if i apply for vaf5 ,join family or spouse visa,will it be straight forward to apply fot that as i have adrees in south ireland with proof of that adress ,and use parents adress in n ireland to bring my wife there?

Yes, you seem to have addresses covered.