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Late filing for 2011-12 and 2012-13

Post by ilr_applicant_2211 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:41 am

Hello,

I have taken a same day service for my ILR application for 1st week of December.

However, I have some queries. I am self-employed. My personal tax returns weren't filed for 2011-12 and 2012-13(I didn't get a notice from HMRC as well to file my tax returns for these 2 years). I had filed the personal tax returns for 2013-14 and 2014-15.
My Corporation tax from 2011 until date is absolutely fine.

When my accountant did a 5 year review he found that since the personal tax returns for 2011-2012, 2012-13 weren't filed, we sent the personal tax return by post in the month of September 2016 for the year 2011-12 and 2012-13. For 2012-13 I owed a tax of about 1200 GBP and I paid that amount to HMRC before the tax return was sent to HMRC by post. Since I owed money to HMRC, it went to tax compliance and they asked me to pay about 100 GBP for it which I did.

However, for 2011-12, there was no tax(0.00 GBP tax) to be paid. I got a letter from HMRC saying that 'Thank You for your Self Assessment tax return for the tax year 2011 to 2012. The time limit for making a Self Assessment or claiming a repayment for 2011 to 2012 ran out on 5th April 2016. Because of this, I don't intend to take any further action with the information in the tax return.'

My questions are :
1>Would I get a SA302 from HMRC for 2011-12 and 2012-13?
2>If I won't get SA302,since there was late filing,can I take Tax Overview Statement for 2011-12 and 2012-13 when I go for my same day service for ILR. Would the case worker consider the Tax Overview Statement for 2011-12 and 2012-13 if I don't have SA302 with me for 2011-12 and 2012-13 or is SA302 an absolute must for an ILR application. In that case, what are my options?
3>When would the HMRC records be updated so that HO can take a look at my 2011-12 and 2012-13 tax record as well to show that there is no liability to HMRC from my side for these 2 years.
4>Would you see impact of any of the above on my ILR application.

Really would appreciate and grateful for your insightful views on the above.

Thanks.

trunks2k8
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Re: Late filing for 2011-12 and 2012-13

Post by trunks2k8 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:31 am

ilr_applicant_2211 wrote:Hello,

I have taken a same day service for my ILR application for 1st week of December.

However, I have some queries. I am self-employed. My personal tax returns weren't filed for 2011-12 and 2012-13(I didn't get a notice from HMRC as well to file my tax returns for these 2 years). I had filed the personal tax returns for 2013-14 and 2014-15.
My Corporation tax from 2011 until date is absolutely fine.

When my accountant did a 5 year review he found that since the personal tax returns for 2011-2012, 2012-13 weren't filed, we sent the personal tax return by post in the month of September 2016 for the year 2011-12 and 2012-13. For 2012-13 I owed a tax of about 1200 GBP and I paid that amount to HMRC before the tax return was sent to HMRC by post. Since I owed money to HMRC, it went to tax compliance and they asked me to pay about 100 GBP for it which I did.

However, for 2011-12, there was no tax(0.00 GBP tax) to be paid. I got a letter from HMRC saying that 'Thank You for your Self Assessment tax return for the tax year 2011 to 2012. The time limit for making a Self Assessment or claiming a repayment for 2011 to 2012 ran out on 5th April 2016. Because of this, I don't intend to take any further action with the information in the tax return.'

My questions are :
1>Would I get a SA302 from HMRC for 2011-12 and 2012-13?
2>If I won't get SA302,since there was late filing,can I take Tax Overview Statement for 2011-12 and 2012-13 when I go for my same day service for ILR. Would the case worker consider the Tax Overview Statement for 2011-12 and 2012-13 if I don't have SA302 with me for 2011-12 and 2012-13 or is SA302 an absolute must for an ILR application. In that case, what are my options?
3>When would the HMRC records be updated so that HO can take a look at my 2011-12 and 2012-13 tax record as well to show that there is no liability to HMRC from my side for these 2 years.
4>Would you see impact of any of the above on my ILR application.

Really would appreciate and grateful for your insightful views on the above.

Thanks.


I am in the same position. I havent filed any sa as there was no tax liability for any year. Submitted paper returns for 2010 AND 2011 and the rest online. Had to pay £200 sa tax due to PAYE ( 2 JOBS -BR CODE .. SOME CRAP NOTHING TO DO WITH DIVIDENDS).Paper returns wont get processed and wont show online on your record which most case workers at peo look for. If you have manual tax calculations then there is a chance they might consider if you explain that there was no tax due. If you are a director of a ltd company then according to acca rules if there is no tax due, there isnt a need to submit sa but its sad HO looks for sa regardless. See below and may be use it as a refernce if asked in interview
http://www.accaglobal.com/uk/en/technic ... turns.html
I was advised to do a postal application due to my situation regarding sa's as this would give time for cw to verify with hmrc if needed. I posted first week of june and still waiting. Hoping for reply by 1st week of december.

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