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End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:12 am

Hi all

I need some advice.

I got married in October 2016 in Pakistan, my husband came over to UK in April 2017 on a spouse visa.

However we have not been living together for over 6 months and he has moved to a extended family members house. The relationship has ended there has been no contact whatsoever.

I would like to report this to Home Office and get him deported back as I do not want him to be a dependent on me in the eyes of the law when I have nothing to do with him, also I do not want him to be staying here as him and his family have basically just used me as an excuse to get in to UK, he has never fulfilled any rights of a husband.

What do I need to do for this to happen asap?

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:34 am

You need to inform HO on the prescribed form, link below.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... nsent-form

HO will curtail his visa but it can take a few months. You won't necessarily be informed of every process that takes place.

You should start divorce proceedings.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:35 am

will I not get any updates on the status?

also do I just fill the form or write anything else?

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:43 am

will I not get any updates on the status?
I believe you won't no.
also do I just fill the form or write anything else?
Follow the form in the link I have provided. You can write an additional letter if you wish to.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:46 am

thank you

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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:06 am

If I have had a Islamic marriage done in Pakistan and he has come over on a Spouse Visa, is that classed as a British marriage or not?

Also can he get married again in UK without divorcing me?

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:22 am

If I have had a Islamic marriage done in Pakistan and he has come over on a Spouse Visa, is that classed as a British marriage or not?

No, it is not a 'British marriage'. Your marriage is however recognised in the UK.
Also can he get married again in UK without divorcing me?
No he cannot. The UK does not allow polygamy.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:31 am

what is the difference in being a British marriage and being recognised by UK Law?

sorry for the question but I am not sure of the law side.

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:41 am

A British marriage is one conducted per the rules here, i.e. not islamic.

A marriage conducted abroad legally is recognised by the UK as valid as it has been conducted within the rules/laws/practices/customs of the said country.

I got married in a different country (home country) and my marriage was recognised for my visa etc and I am processing my divorce in the UK as my marriage is valid and legal.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:48 am

Thank you for you help, its very helpful.

Due to being a girl I cannot initiate the divorce but can I do anything that means he cannot get married until he divorce?

Also with it being recognised in the UK does he have any rights on my assets? even though his name is not on anything?

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:52 am

Due to being a girl I cannot initiate the divorce but can I do anything that means he cannot get married until he divorce?
Why do you believe you cannot initiate divorce? You certainly can in the UK, it is not only me who can. The UK does not permit multiple marriages at the same time. In order for him to marry in the UK (not islamic), he and his partner have to give 28 days notice to an HO approved Registry office, who then inform HO and this notice period could get extended by up to 70 days before they will be given the ok to marry. HO will check his record and see that he is married and in the UK on a spouse visa and he won't be permitted to marry unless he provides evidence of a divorce.
Also with it being recognised in the UK does he have any rights on my assets? even though his name is not on anything?
He could yes.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:05 am

An Islamic divorce can only be done through the husband.

So he could do a Islamic marriage without divorcing me

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:09 am

An Islamic divorce can only be done through the husband.

You can likely divorce through the UK courts.
So he could do a Islamic marriage without divorcing me
Technically yes but if this is done in the UK, it will not be recognised by HO.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:11 am

thank you

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Re: End of relationship

Post by New on forum » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:02 pm

Bia4eva wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:05 am
An Islamic divorce can only be done through the husband.

So he could do a Islamic marriage without divorcing me
incorrect .
Islam gives women’s the right to divorce.
You have an option of Khulla in Pakistani law.
Which will probably take a lot less time than divorce in the uk.

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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:03 pm

Can i do that without his permission? As i am not in touch.

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Re: End of relationship

Post by CMOSUK » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:19 pm

Bia4eva wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:03 pm
Can i do that without his permission? As i am not in touch.
You do not need his permission to divorce him, you will however need to start proceedings in Pakistan through a court, they will and should send him notice of divorce, it should be straightforward but a bit of time consuming from my understanding.
These are my 'views' and 'opinions'.
If in doubt always seek professional advice, or at least do a search for the relevant information. :P

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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:29 pm

Can i not do that from UK?

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Re: End of relationship

Post by secret.simon » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:41 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:22 am
Also can he get married again in UK without divorcing me?
No he cannot. The UK does not allow polygamy.
A second marriage by him in the UK will not be recognised by the UK unless he is divorced from you in either Pakistan or the UK before the second marriage takes place.
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So he could do a Islamic marriage without divorcing me
Technically yes but if this is done in the UK, it will not be recognised by HO.
He can do an Islamic marriage without divorcing you, but...
If his second Islamic marriage is done in Pakistan, the second marriage will be recognised in Pakistan, but not the UK.
If his second Islamic marriage is done in the UK, it will not be recognised as a legal marriage in either Pakistan or the UK.

Go through this similar thread. Be aware that this is an immigration forum and divorce is not one of our core features, except as regards its impact on immigration (both UK and EU based).

The long and short of it is that you can divorce him through the UK courts under British law, if that is what you would wish to do, and Islamic law would be irrelevant if you choose to divorce him through the UK courts. Go through the links in the other thread about the concept of "domicile" and how that affects where you can divorce, as per British law. Be aware that there are procedural differences between English law (which also applies to Wales) and Scottish and Northern Irish law when it comes to marriage and divorce.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:46 pm

Thank you so much for your help.

My main issue at the moment is getting him deported back

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Re: End of relationship

Post by ouflak1 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:04 pm

Bia4eva wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:46 pm
Thank you so much for your help.

My main issue at the moment is getting him deported back
Once it is obvious to the UK that the relationship has broken down and he no longer meets the requirement of his visa, the UK government will handle the rest. It's probably best to stay out of it from that point.

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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:12 pm

I have written to the Home Office explaining everything but have not had anything back.

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Re: End of relationship

Post by Casa » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:20 pm

Bia4eva wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:12 pm
I have written to the Home Office explaining everything but have not had anything back.
You are unlikely to receive any notification from the Home Office. Did you submit the official online form?
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Londoner007 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:20 pm

There is no guarantee that he will be deported. If you no longer wish to sponsor him and you have notified HO, they will decide whether to cancel his visa or not and will most likely cancel it. He may have sought other entitlements to remain in UK but you will never really know.

Like many others you feel betrayed etc. but HO see these cases everyday and they wont be so eager to deport him as much as you do.

Best thing for you just move on and learn from this. Do the Khula in Pakistan and also if you want let courts in UK know too, especially if you plan to re-marry again and sponsor someone else.
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Re: End of relationship

Post by Bia4eva » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:04 pm

Casa wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:20 pm
Bia4eva wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:12 pm
I have written to the Home Office explaining everything but have not had anything back.
You are unlikely to receive any notification from the Home Office. Did you submit the official online form?
Are you referring to the public statement for relationship no longer existing?

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