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Spouse visa advice needed

Post by K4Y » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:09 am

Hi All,

really need some advice. I have been working for 2 years on a zero hour contract, with the same employer.I do vaires jobs in different departments and my hourly pay rate and monthly vaires. I also get paid twice a month.

I have looked at the appendix 2 forum. But no where can i find non-salaried employment. Now do I tick category A or B.

So far my payments are

April - £1700 - May - £1600 + ££1,100 + £1,300 - June -£1,500 + £2,000 + July £1,400 + £1400

The payment for July I already know what it will be. Also the 1st payment of April fall under the end of
financial year of 2019 which I made £18,650.

for Auguest it will be around £1,000 or more and september be around £1,000 or more.

In appendix fm 1.7 it states that the calculation would be total gross income thoughout the 6 months.
So for me it would be £14,000 when I apply in October. But how would they know it's non-salaried employment.

Also can someone help me how the letter should be from empolyer.


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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by seagul » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:59 am

Not sure as how the online appendix II form looks like but previously the one which you suppose to print and manually fill it doesnt had pacifically any section for none-salaried category A. But it used to be easily be answered by simply taking the average annual income. If the figures of monthly wages are varying then its non-salaried where the average annual income have to be calculated by: total of last six month income/6*12 and usually if the aggregation of last 6 month is at least £9300 then it can meet the requirement easily.
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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by THO » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:11 am

Isn't a zero hours contract effectively the same as being self employed? Do you do your own tax return each year? If so, then you would need to provide your up to date tax return.

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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:27 am

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Isn't a zero hours contract effectively the same as being self employed? Do you do your own tax return each year? If so, then you would need to provide your up to date tax return.
No it is not. Zero hour contract means a person has no fixed hours and only work when there is work but are PAYE. No entitlement to holiday pay etc either.

Common form of employment in the Event/hospitality industry.
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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by seagul » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:49 pm

THO wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:11 am
Isn't a zero hours contract effectively the same as being self employed? Do you do your own tax return each year? If so, then you would need to provide your up to date tax return.
A zero hour contract can be a self employment but only if you pay your tax instead your employer.
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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by K4Y » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:24 pm

seagul wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:59 am
Not sure as how the online appendix II form looks like but previously the one which you suppose to print and manually fill it doesnt had pacifically any section for none-salaried category A. But it used to be easily be answered by simply taking the average annual income. If the figures of monthly wages are varying then its non-salaried where the average annual income have to be calculated by: total of last six month income/6*12 and usually if the aggregation of last 6 month is at least £9300 then it can meet the requirement easily.
Thanks for your reply seagull. I just downloaded the forum and have not looked at the online forum yet.

Another thing is if I was to start from April, for 6 months payslip. would that mean I will have to give the payslip that came in begin of April. That went towards the end of financial year 2019. That payslip made £18,650 and then I got my p60. Or start with the second payslip that came in April. Not sure which is better.

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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by K4Y » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:06 am

Will whatapp be enough as i have only been using this and taking screenshorts of chart and call histroy.
If so should i put all of it from march to october cause it will be a big pile of pages.

Also how many pictures would you say is enough for wedding and after wedding pictures before i came back to uk.

One thing am really confuse about is how should the letter be from my empolyer. As i work in different jobs with this one employer and my pay varies hourly. So he cant just put one right or should he put varies or the one job I work the most. And for annual income he wont know until end of financial year 2020. or should he do total gross from 6 months, dived by 6 times by 12 to work it out like that. Also not sure what to put as contract. As its seen as zero hour, Casual contract, but its like a rolling contract that gets renewed yearly. Also should he put that I get paid fortnightly. Don't want to confuse the case worker.

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Re: Spouse visa advice needed

Post by seagul » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:36 pm

If you are not self employed then you shouldn't bother about financial year rather whenever you get the required amount of payslips and bank statements and employer letters you should apply. If you working on zero hour contract where you and your employer don't know annual income then as stated above that your employer can give the average annual income by using the total wages earned in the last 6 months.
Screenshots of whatsapp chat & call should be fine but must cover the period from the beginning of relationship till date of application. Attach the wedding pictures as much as you can as there is no limit for it.
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Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:56 pm

Hi all,

I am about to apply for spouse visa. I got the employer letter that says

contract: indefinite time.

His hourly pay rate is variable and receives non-salaried payment. He has been employed with us since jan 2017. He is paid on a fortnight basis.

So far i have made £16,000 in 6 months.

Will this be ok, or will this get rejected.

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by seagul » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:35 pm

K4Y wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:56 pm
Hi all,

I am about to apply for spouse visa. I got the employer letter that says

contract: indefinite time.

His hourly pay rate is variable and receives non-salaried payment. He has been employed with us since jan 2017. He is paid on a fortnight basis.

So far i have made £16,000 in 6 months.

Will this be ok, or will this get rejected.

Thanks
Employment letter should also state the gross annual income but since he is earning variable income so employer can state the total of last 6/12 months of wages. Moreover, if he is doing any overtime then it should also be mentioned.
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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:06 pm

Last year i made £18,650 should this be mention and should i also include my p60 from last year.

Last 6 month wages would be from april 2019 to september 2019 end of this month. that i will have made £16,000

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by seagul » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:15 pm

K4Y wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:06 pm
Last year i made £18,650 should this be mention and should i also include my p60 from last year.
No. Its totally irrelevant
K4Y wrote:
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Last 6 month wages would be from april 2019 to september 2019 end of this month. that i will have made £16,000
get it included in employer letter
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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:27 pm

Thanks seagul.

From my payslip of 6 months they should see i have made £16,000 and this will be on my employer letter like you said.

Also from whatsapp calls and messages that i have taken screen shot. Should i include say 1st to 30th each month. Or just a few would do, say 4 screen shots of each week.

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by seagul » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:15 pm

K4Y wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:27 pm
Thanks seagul.

From my payslip of 6 months they should see i have made £16,000 and this will be on my employer letter like you said.
(b) A letter from the employer(s) who issued the payslips at paragraph 2(a) confirming:
(i) the person's employment and gross annual salary;
(ii) the length of their employment;
(iii) the period over which they have been or were paid the level of salary relied upon in
the application; and
(iv) the type of employment (permanent, fixed-term contract or agency).
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Also from whatsapp calls and messages that i have taken screen shot. Should i include say 1st to 30th each month. Or just a few would do, say 4 screen shots of each week.
There is no guideline over it but it should be as much as possible.
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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:23 pm

Thanks seagul

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:37 pm

For gross annual salary. Can my employer put £16,000 divide by 6 x 12 = £32,000 in employer letter. As this is how they calculate non-salaried like this from my 6 months pay slip. Or would you say up till now in 6months he has made £16,00

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by seagul » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:44 pm

K4Y wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:37 pm
Can my employer put £16,000 divide by 6 x 12 = £32,000 in employer letter.
Yes its average annualized wages which a non-salaried person earns for visa purpose. And same figure you can write on the application form where it asks that how much you earn annually.
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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:48 pm

Thanks seagul

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:58 pm

Hi All,

I just noticed that I get holiday pay on my payslip. but I am on a zero hour contract.

I get paid hourly and with my normal pay and holiday pay it adds up to £14.

Now on appendix fm 1.7 it say's

Example (c) The applicant’s partner is in non-salaried employment in the UK. He works on a weekly rota basis and does not receive any paid holidays. He has earned £450 each week in the same job for the last 7 calendar months, except for the week prior to the date of application when he earned £150 owing to a holiday. Non-salaried income = (gross earnings from employment held throughout the 6 month period, divided by 6) x 12 = ((25 weeks x 450 + 1 week x 150) ÷ 6) x 12 = (11,400 ÷ 6) x 12 = £22,800 So the financial requirement is met through Category A non-salaried employment.

But holiday pay is when your taking a week off and you get paid for that week. I get paid my normal hourly rate plus holiday pay to get my hourly pay rate to £14.

Can I not use non-salaried route.

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by seagul » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:10 pm

K4Y wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:58 pm

Can I not use non-salaried route.

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In previous posts you have already been advised to use none-salaried person approach due to being on zero hour. Any paid holiday will be counted in similar way like you have worked and earned along with normal wages.
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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:44 pm

Thanks seagull.

will apply by non-salaried route. As my work messed up one of my payslip now, and I only got £400 rather then £860 for 2 weeks payment.

Also my last payslip and payment for last 2 weeks for September comes in first week of October. Now do I wait for that payslip and should I get first weeks of Octobers bank statement as well. As I want to apply end of September. That would give me April to September for 6months.

Just stressed out.

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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by seagul » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:52 pm

K4Y wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:44 pm
Thanks seagull.

will apply by non-salaried route. As my work messed up one of my payslip now, and I only got £400 rather then £860 for 2 weeks payment.

Also my last payslip and payment for last 2 weeks for September comes in first week of October. Now do I wait for that payslip and should I get first weeks of Octobers bank statement as well. As I want to apply end of September. That would give me April to September for 6months.

Just stressed out.

Thanks
Only apply onces you get your latest payslips and bank statements. If your postal bank statements are not aligned with your pay day then simply go to branch after getting your wages to get the latest bank statement.
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Re: Spouse visa employer letter

Post by K4Y » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:34 pm

Thanks seagull

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