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FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Wed May 13, 2020 6:37 pm

Hi,

Just a quick question, am I allowed to download bills / letters from e.g. United Utilities / British Gas website to upload with the application or do these need to physical copies sent to the address.

As you can imagine a lot of them are online based.

Really appreciate your help on this.

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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by seagul » Wed May 13, 2020 6:46 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 6:37 pm
Hi,

Just a quick question, am I allowed to download bills / letters from e.g. United Utilities / British Gas website to upload with the application or do these need to physical copies sent to the address.

As you can imagine a lot of them are online based.

Really appreciate your help on this.
Online copies can be downloaded & uploaded provided in acceptable format & size such in pdf with size lesser than 6MB each.
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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:20 pm

Thank you very much for clarifying this.

It's a little confusing due to 'FLR(M) GUIDANCE NOTES' advising that "Copies of any kind are not acceptable unless there are valid reasons for not being able to provide the original document"

Kind of a grey area with e-billing as they have the same information and format as any physical bill sent to the address. I have completely understood your reply but was wondering if you could you shed a little more light on this?

Regards,

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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by CR001 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:24 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:20 pm
Thank you very much for clarifying this.

It's a little confusing due to 'FLR(M) GUIDANCE NOTES' advising that "Copies of any kind are not acceptable unless there are valid reasons for not being able to provide the original document"

Kind of a grey area with e-billing as they have the same information and format as any physical bill sent to the address. I have completely understood your reply but was wondering if you could you shed a little more light on this?

Regards,
It is not a 'grey area'. The guidance hasn't fully been updated for the online process and still refers to originals for when postal and PSC applications were made.
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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by klite12 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:37 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:24 pm
ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:20 pm
Thank you very much for clarifying this.

It's a little confusing due to 'FLR(M) GUIDANCE NOTES' advising that "Copies of any kind are not acceptable unless there are valid reasons for not being able to provide the original document"

Kind of a grey area with e-billing as they have the same information and format as any physical bill sent to the address. I have completely understood your reply but was wondering if you could you shed a little more light on this?

Regards,
It is not a 'grey area'. The guidance hasn't fully been updated for the online process and still refers to originals for when postal and PSC applications were made.
So currently, digital equivalents/e-billing would be acceptable forms of evidence for correspondence I.E Utility bills, bank statements, etc?

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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:46 pm

Thank you for putting my mind as well as so many others at ease. :D
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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by CR001 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:49 pm

klite12 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:37 pm
So currently, digital equivalents/e-billing would be acceptable forms of evidence for correspondence I.E Utility bills, bank statements, etc?
Yes.
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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:53 pm

Apologies if this is slightly off topic.

Can online bank statements be used to show evidence for earnings or are physical copies/stamped versions needed?

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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by CR001 » Thu May 14, 2020 12:53 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:53 pm
Apologies if this is slightly off topic.

Can online bank statements be used to show evidence for earnings or are physical copies/stamped versions needed?
If they look the same in pdf as the ones you would receive by post, then yes.
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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Thu May 14, 2020 1:10 pm

Understood, thanks again. :wink:

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Re: FLR (m) Cohabitation Letters

Post by seagul » Thu May 14, 2020 4:15 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:20 pm
Thank you very much for clarifying this.

It's a little confusing due to 'FLR(M) GUIDANCE NOTES' advising that "Copies of any kind are not acceptable unless there are valid reasons for not being able to provide the original document"

Kind of a grey area with e-billing as they have the same information and format as any physical bill sent to the address. I have completely understood your reply but was wondering if you could you shed a little more light on this?

Regards,
Also see

https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/help-support/o ... eDocuments
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FLR (m)

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:25 pm

Hi,

I wanted to know what the 28 day rule applies to, is it just the financial documents i.e. payslips, letter confirming employment etc, or does this apply to any other documents?

Secondly, as I live with others, I need to complete a housing inspection report, however the local council is not currently offering this due to COVID-19. A local surveying company is willing to this remotely without a home-visit again due to the pandemic. Do you think this will be accepted?

Thanks for your time and expertise in answering this.

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Re: FLR (m)

Post by seagul » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:08 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:25 pm
Hi,

I wanted to know what the 28 day rule applies to, is it just the financial documents i.e. payslips, letter confirming employment etc, or does this apply to any other documents?
It strictly applies to latest payslip & bank statement, employer letter whereas ideally to noc letter, inspection report etc.
ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:25 pm
Secondly, as I live with others, I need to complete a housing inspection report, however the local council is not currently offering this due to COVID-19. A local surveying company is willing to this remotely without a home-visit again due to the pandemic. Do you think this will be accepted?
Estate agencies activities including viewings, renting, inspections all have been fully restarted on condition of observing the 2 meter distance rule , thus you can easily find another one who can perform it in person. But still if the surveyor perform same job distantly without pacifically mentioning about that then it may not even be known and gets accepted.
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Re: FLR (m)

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:08 pm

Thanks for clarifying this seagul.

Just another question, I'm also having issues with the employer not being able to provide a wet signature only an electronic one (name typed at the bottom of a company headed letter).

Do you know if this will be okay, they are willing to write a separate letter confirming they can't do this at the moment due to working from home?

Thanks again for reviewing my question, I'm really grateful for the advice.

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Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:31 pm

If needed I could get them to do digital signatures via Docusign, which could be a possible alternative.

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Re: FLR (m)

Post by seagul » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:10 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:31 pm
If needed I could get them to do digital signatures via Docusign, which could be a possible alternative.
Yes that would be acceptable.
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Re: FLR (m)

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:45 pm

That makes me feel so much better. :)

Is there any further information or guidance regarding signatures for use in visa applications? I understand the legality aspect of it and its acceptability in law within the UK.

(https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... idance.pdf)

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Re: FLR (m)

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:50 pm

Just regarding the cohabitation letters, could you let me know if the below would suffice?
Visa ends 02 Aug and considering applying on the 15 of July. Many many thanks. :D

Applicant:

Can't find anything for July 2018 - the closest available is April, should I attach this?
Aug 2018 - NHS
Dec 2018 - Internet Provider (Joint)
Mar 2019 - Bank Statement
June 2019 - Other
Sep 2019 - Local Care
Dec 2019 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Feb 2020 - Water Bill (Joint)
May 2020 - Electric / Gas (Joint)
Jul 2020 - Internet Bill (Joint)

Spouse

Jul 2018 - Bank Statement
Sep 2018 - LG
Dec 2018 - HMRC
Mar 2019 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Jun 2019 - SLC
Sep 2019 - Bank Statement
Dec 2019 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Feb 2020 - Water Bill (Joint)
May 2020 - Electric / Gas (joint)
July 2020 - Internet Bill (Joint)

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Re: FLR (m)

Post by seagul » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:25 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:50 pm
Just regarding the cohabitation letters, could you let me know if the below would suffice?
Visa ends 02 Aug and considering applying on the 15 of July. Many many thanks. :D

Applicant:

Can't find anything for July 2018 - the closest available is April, should I attach this?
Aug 2018 - NHS
Dec 2018 - Internet Provider (Joint)
Mar 2019 - Bank Statement
June 2019 - Other
Sep 2019 - Local Care
Dec 2019 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Feb 2020 - Water Bill (Joint)
May 2020 - Electric / Gas (Joint)
Jul 2020 - Internet Bill (Joint)

Spouse

Jul 2018 - Bank Statement
Sep 2018 - LG
Dec 2018 - HMRC
Mar 2019 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Jun 2019 - SLC
Sep 2019 - Bank Statement
Dec 2019 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Feb 2020 - Water Bill (Joint)
May 2020 - Electric / Gas (joint)
July 2020 - Internet Bill (Joint)
Seems satisfactory
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Re: FLR (m)

Post by ahtishamtahir01 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:11 pm

Hi,

A quick question, do I need a housing inspection report for my wife's FLR (m) application if I live with my parents. This is the same address as when we applied for her original application 2.5 years ago.

Or will a NOC from my parents confirming rooms and adequate space be sufficient? If a report is required must it be completed by an Environmental Office or Chartered Surveyor or an a architect company can do this?

Thanks for the help :)

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Re: FLR (m)

Post by seagul » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:18 pm

ahtishamtahir01 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:11 pm
NOC from my parents confirming rooms and adequate space be sufficient?
Yes
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