Help with information about previous applications

[so777]

Hi there!
My wife and I are finally applying to become British citizens.

I'm an EEA national and my wife had applied for a family permit, residence card (5 year) and we then both applied and got permanent residence card in late 2018.

We are asked about my wife temporary 5 years residence card and whether she gave fingerprints for that one. We are almost confident that she didn't have to. Is this possible?

Also, we are asked about EEA family permit for which my wife applied for in 2013. We couldn't find documents for that other than the actual visa in my wife's old passport.
We know the month in which we applied, but again can't remember the actual date or whether she had to give fingerprints.

Do any of you know if it makes sense that she didn't give fingerprints for all applications but the permanent residence one?

(also, do you know if a clinical manager counts as a professional standing for a referee?)

[alterhase58]

Fingerprints are/were not required for EEA applications - so "no" is ok. Also you can use estimated dates (month/year).
For acceptable referee professions refer to page 25:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 1.0EXT.pdf

[obormot]

I believe if she applied for FP in 2013 (outside of UK), then she had to do fingerprints.
But for EEA2 Application (5 years card) in 2013-14, made inside UK, there was no biometrics.
At least this is how it was for my mother who is non-EU.
When we both applied for PR in 2018, she had to do biometrics (at post office), and received BRC; but I did not do biometrics for PR (they only asked it from non- EU)

If you do not remember exact dates, put approximate ones and mention in cover letter that they are approximate.

[so777]

Thank you both!
So Family permit outside the UK she did give fingerprint? We honestly can't remember as it was 7 years ago. My wife *think* she had to at the embassy but can't quite remember.
I also don't have the case reference... hope that's not an issue.
I did find the date though!

[so777]

Fingerprints are/were not required for EEA applications - so "no" is ok. Also you can use estimated dates (month/year).
For acceptable referee professions refer to page 25:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 1.0EXT.pdf

It doesn't state the profession. Are these the only ones accepted?

[alterhase58]

That is the guidance from UKVI.

[so777]

That is the guidance from UKVI.

Yes I get that, and I really appreciate you linking that.
I was just wondering if those are the only professions allowed, or whether this is a guidance.

My wife's referee is a clinical manager at a charity, but she's not a manager of a charity, if that makes sense?

[CR001]

The list is the list and that is what is accepted. It is not a choice of "the professions on the list or someone you believe might qualify/be ok"

[so777]

Thank you all.
I guess we will have to find another referee that fits the list.

One more question if you could kindly help -
I've been asked about convictions. I have had one driving ticket sent to me (from an automatic camera) in 2016 and then a wrong left turn (again from an automatic camera) in 2017.
For the speeding I took a course so didn't pay a fine or had points. The other penalty charge (from my council) I had paid within three days.

I assume that I should include both in my application?

[tudor2020]

Previous applications are the main cause of delay on my application. I left it blank by my mistake and it delayed more than 6 months. I was then checking through copy of my application and found the application history being missing. I sent an email explaining about the mistake and wrote the details of my application history. I sent email and shortly after I was granted.

[so777]

Thank you!
I think I've got it figured out now. I'm hoping it'll be okay. I've got the dates, I just don't have the reference number for EEA family permit. Is that a problem?

[so777]

The list is the list and that is what is accepted. It is not a choice of "the professions on the list or someone you believe might qualify/be ok"

Thank you madam.