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Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:51 am

We are both on ILR for past 2 years now,. Our baby is now 20 days old and we wish to take British citizenship for him.

I happen to read gov.uk and all the more confused now.
Which is the visa i need to take?
Is this MNI - £1012
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.uk/product/mn1

Also as we parents are eligible for BC would it be sensible one parent takes BC from this link below and then apply for his citizenship by paying £50 ?
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-eea

ie : Cost - £1,330 for BC for Adult
& £58 for the child BC passport

Please can someone clarify

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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:59 am

If baby was born in the UK, and you have received ILR before his birth then he is already British (not need to register) - you can apply for his passport now. Note citizenship is not a visa!
https://www.gov.uk/check-british-citize ... 06-onwards
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:01 pm

Also, since your ILR BRP is the claim to child’s British Citizenship, you are advised NOT to return your ILR BRP for your child’s future sake even after naturalisation.

Assuming baby born in UK.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:54 pm

Cullinan,

I didn't understand your statement but it seems to be a vital tip
Also, since your ILR BRP is the claim to child’s British Citizenship, you are advised NOT to return your ILR BRP for your child’s future sake even after naturalization.

What do you mean by not to return your ILR BRP ?

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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:02 pm

Since your baby is British by birth (assuming born in UK), your ILR BRP is the proof of baby’s British Citizenship.

HMPO requires original documents including your original ILR BRP to apply for baby’s British Passport.

Note, British Passport alone is not the proof of baby’s British Citizenship. It is your ILR BRP that is the proof.

So do not return your ILR BRP to HO (you are required to return it within 5 days after your naturalisation but do not return it).

Keep it safe for baby’s future sake and avoid problems as it is the proof that your baby is British by birth.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:11 pm

Guys - this is not very clear and very confusing, please can someone explain clearly if possible with no gaps.

As per gov.uk
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-ee ... r-children
Child is automatically a British citizen if they were born both:
in the UK & after you got permanent residence status

It says to apply for a child's passport which takes us to
https://www.gov.uk/get-a-child-passport

In the application it says
Your child must have "British nationality" to be eligible for a British passport.

and this link takes us back to
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-born-uk/under-18 and then to
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.uk/product/mn1

MNI Application form is to Register for British citizenship as a child under 18 and this costs £1012.
and then once you get citizenship you apply for a passport.

Is this the procedure ???

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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:13 pm

You have not answered the MOST relevant question and have left us assuming.

Is your child born in UK????
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:15 pm

Sorry i thought i answered it

yes child is born in UK and he is just 10 days old, also we live in the UK and all of us are physically in the UK now.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:17 pm

Apply for child’s British Passport, your child is British by birth.

https://www.gov.uk/get-a-child-passport ... d-passport

All you need is:
Child’s original UK Birth Certificate.
At least ONE parent(s) original ILR BRP.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:21 pm

Acquisition by birth or adoption.

(1)A person born in the United Kingdom after commencement [F1, or in a qualifying territory on or after the appointed day,] shall be a British citizen if at the time of the birth his father or mother is—

(a)a British citizen; or

(b)settled in the United Kingdom[/quote]

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/61
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:23 pm

Thanks - So its the first passport then

I think this was the question I got stuck in that form which is why i opened this post.

Do you have a naturalization or registration certificate?
Is this a Yes or No ?
Where do we get this if it is Yes

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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:25 pm

vlabathomas wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:23 pm
Thanks - So its the first passport then

I think this was the question I got stuck in that form which is why i opened this post.

Do you have a naturalization or registration certificate?
Is this a Yes or No ?
Where do we get this if it is Yes
No. Your child is British by BIRTH. You dont need it.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:26 pm

Awesome - that cleared out that doubt we had.
Thanks for being very helpful and kind

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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:27 pm

vlabathomas wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:26 pm
Awesome - that cleared out that doubt we had.
Thanks for being very helpful and kind
It is useful to add a cover letter with passport application clarifying that your child is British by birth. Do not worry what is generated in the checklist at the end.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vlabathomas » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:30 pm

Sure thing
Thanks so much.
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Re: Citizenship for baby

Post by vinny » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:42 pm

vlabathomas wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:11 pm
In the application it says
Your child must have "British nationality" to be eligible for a British passport.

CULLINAN provided the correct answer. The Government website will also eventually lead to the same conclusion.

Apply for a first child passport
Your child must have British nationality to be eligible for a British passport.
British nationality
British citizenship
You can check if you’re a British citizen if you’re not sure.
check if you’re a British citizen
Born in the UK on 30 April 2006 onwards
If your parents were not British, Irish, EU or EEA citizens when you were born
You’re automatically a British citizen if when you were born at least one of your parents was living in the UK and had any of the following:

indefinite leave to remain (ILR)
right to re-admission
right of abode
If the parent that meets these conditions is your father and you were born before 1 July 2006, he must have been married to your mother when you were born.

You’re also automatically a British citizen if at least one of your parents was in the UK armed forces and you were born after 12 January 2010.
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