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Is a stop at a country's airport to switch flights considered 'transit' or 'tourist'

Post by wezzleywezzley » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:35 pm

I'm having to detail all travel for the last 2 years on an fiance visa application.

Recently I flew from Turkey to Mexico City airport (MEX), on arrival I cleared immigration, switched terminals and caught a flight to Guatemala.

I arrived on a tourist visa rather than a transit visa.

On the form for the fiance visa application I'm asked to classed this 'visit' to Mexico as 'Tourist' or 'Transit' which should I chose please?

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Re: Is a stop at a country's airport to switch flights considered 'transit' or 'tourist'

Post by TODMATT » Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:01 pm

wezzleywezzley wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:35 pm
I'm having to detail all travel for the last 2 years on an fiance visa application.

Recently I flew from Turkey to Mexico City airport (MEX), on arrival I cleared immigration, switched terminals and caught a flight to Guatemala.

I arrived on a tourist visa rather than a transit visa.

On the form for the fiance visa application I'm asked to classed this 'visit' to Mexico as 'Tourist' or 'Transit' which should I chose please?

Many thanks 🙏
You have answered the question yourself, you mentioned you arrived on a "Tourist"
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Re: Is a stop at a country's airport to switch flights considered 'transit' or 'tourist'

Post by wezzleywezzley » Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:47 pm

got it, thanks 😁

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Fiance visa - detailing travel history - she 'sneaked' over a closed border to meet me - how shall we document this!?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:14 am

Hi all,

In the depth of worldwide lockdowns in early 20202 last year my Russian Fiance was stuck in Russia and very afraid that they will never open their borders again to let people out.

In a bold and romantic move she had herself smuggled in a truck across the border to Belarus where she stayed for a few days and then flew to another country to meet me. At that time the only people who were meant to cross the border were Belarusian people, students and work permit people and people with close relatives.

Now we are filling out the Fiance Visa application and needing to detail her extensive travel history for the last 2 years. We are worried that if we document this particular trip (i.e. a trip to Belarus for tourism) that an astute UKVI staffer might notice that she crossed to Belarus on a date when technically the border was closed to regular tourists.

Are we overthinking this and worrying unnecessarily? I don't want to lie and leave out a trip, particularly because there is a stamp in her passport when she went out of Belarus. There is no entry stamp, and there would not normally be one. I don't feel that the person considering our application will know the nuances of the Belarus border 2 years ago, so perhaps we should just document this trip as normal. What do you think?

The alternative would be to suggest that she went into Belarus a couple of months earlier than she did, and before the border closed, but I don't want to get into lies.

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Re: Fiance visa - detailing travel history - she 'sneaked' over a closed border to meet me - how shall we document this!

Post by vinny » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:02 am

Don’t lie. Document the trip in line with passport stamps.
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Re: Fiance visa - detailing travel history - she 'sneaked' over a closed border to meet me - how shall we document this!

Post by wezzleywezzley » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:07 am

Thanks vinny, this is my instinct too. My GF is getting in a spin that they will realise what she has done and use it to stop her coming to the uk :( The passport stamp only shows exit. So she thinks we could show she arrived earlier before the lockdown, and it would still be 'in line with the passport stamps' What do you think? Thanks for replying by the way - for some reason this question you have kindly replied to has appeared as a reply on an earlier question I wrote - and now I can;t delete it, so I'm glad you found and replied to it, thank you!

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Re: Fiance visa - detailing travel history - she 'sneaked' over a closed border to meet me - how shall we document this!

Post by vinny » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:16 am

Don’t lie nor make things up. Tell the truth to the questions as asked. I doubt that anyone will check when and to whom which borders were opened or closed. If they do subsequently ask follow up questions, then also answer truthfully.
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Re: Fiance visa - detailing travel history - she 'sneaked' over a closed border to meet me - how shall we document this!

Post by wezzleywezzley » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:26 am

thanks friend, i needed this reassurance

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'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:49 pm

Hi all,

not sure what to do here...we have been moving between countries together for the last 2 years. We have stayed in a few places for 3 months and one place for 6 months...but the rest has been 1 or 2 two week stays, even one or 2 night stays.

Someone has suggested to me that it was because we had accidentally chosen 'unmarried couple' at the start of the application and therefore the form was getting ready to make us prove we had co-habited for 2 years, but I started new with the answer to relationship status as 'single' on some advice from the internet and we still have this question on the form asking to provide addresses from the last two years.

Any ideas please? Should we include everything, just some, or should we not be getting this question at all?

Any thoughts much appreciated, thanks!

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by CR001 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:05 pm

Topics merged again. Please keep all your questions in one topic, this one. It is not necessary to start a new topic with each question or scenario you have on the same application.
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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:18 am

wow I'm sorry for this, I did wonder what was going on with my topics merging together.

Does anyone have any ideas about how many of our multiple addresses we've had this last 2 years we should put into the form? Any feedback much appreciated!

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by vinny » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:39 am

All?
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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:45 am

hi, thanks, I just wasn't sure if we will annoy them by including airbnb's that we stayed in for just 1 night when we were on the move, for example

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:55 am

someone has told me that since we didnt have the right to work in these countries we've been visiting, that technically we were not living at the properties at all, and simply visiting, so perhaps we shouldnt mention them. I'm very confused now!

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TB testing...applying for visa as resident in a country not requiring testing..BUT...passport is from country that does

Post by wezzleywezzley » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:48 pm

Hi all,

fiance has Russian passport. She left Russia 10 July 2020. We now have resident cards for Turkey. We are applying for fiance visa from Turkey.

Terbucosis testing requires that she has test if resident of certain countries. Turkey is not on the list. Russia is.

For the puropses of this fiance visa application - do we consider that since she is now a resident of Turkey we can ignore the fact that Russia is on the TB list? ( I sure hope so as otherwise we would need to fly to another country for the test! as there is no official testing centre in turkey)

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by vinny » Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:55 pm

Who does not need to be tested
you lived for at least 6 months in a country where TB screening is not required by the UK, and you’ve been away from that country for no more than 6 months
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Post by wezzleywezzley » Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:39 pm

thanks, as ever, Vinny,

we seem to qualify for this exemption...but our situation is a little complicated by the fact that there is a gap of 1 month between our residence cards:

In summary -

July 20202 came to turky

Aug 2020 became residents of turkey

April 2021 left turkey(8 months later)

Sep 2021 returned to turkey (5.5 months later) and became residents again since last residency card had expired by 1 month


First card valid from 27.08.2020 to 26.08.2021 second card valid from 26.09.2021 to 26.09.2022

So in fact on the fiance visa application, when it asked how long we have been resident of Turkey I had to put 26.09.2021

Are we good? Many thanks for your replies

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Post by wezzleywezzley » Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:47 pm

typo

July 2020 came to turkey

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:26 am

Hi friends, do you think we still qualify for this exemption, if we lived 9 months in turkey and then left for 5.5 months and then came back to turkey for 3 months and are now applying for fiance visa. I think we do - but just have a niggling doubt for some reason

Who does not need to be tested:
"you lived for at least 6 months in a country where TB screening is not required by the UK, and you’ve been away from that country for no more than 6 months"

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Do uploaded digital letters need to be signed these days?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:48 pm

Hi all,

fiance visa - uploading covering letter (from applicant, my fiance) and letter of support (from sponsor, me) - letters are written on Word. Can I just 'save as PDF' and upload them as supporting documents for the visa application - or do we have to go through the hassle of printing them off, signing them & scan them?

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Re: Do uploaded digital letters need to be signed these days?

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:45 am

wezzleywezzley wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:48 pm
Hi all,

fiance visa - uploading covering letter (from applicant, my fiance) and letter of support (from sponsor, me) - letters are written on Word. Can I just 'save as PDF' and upload them as supporting documents for the visa application - or do we have to go through the hassle of printing them off, signing them & scan them?

Thanks!
It requires signing, if you can do that then it's only to sign, convert to pdf and upload.

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do digital letter have to be printed and hand signed before uploading?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:40 pm

Hi friend, sorry, I;m a little confused by your kind answer, can I try to clarify please? - We have our letters writting in Microsoft Word. Ideally we will save them as a PDF and upload them. We cannot print our letters to sign them...is that going to be a problem? Are we supposed to print them off, sign them by hand, photograph them, convert to pdf and upload them?

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Re: do digital letter have to be printed and hand signed before uploading?

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:22 pm

wezzleywezzley wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:40 pm
Hi friend, sorry, I;m a little confused by your kind answer, can I try to clarify please? - We have our letters writting in Microsoft Word. Ideally we will save them as a PDF and upload them. We cannot print our letters to sign them...is that going to be a problem? Are we supposed to print them off, sign them by hand, photograph them, convert to pdf and upload them?
If you have electronic signature put it on it, convert to or save as PDF and upload or if not print it out, sign, scan and upload.

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by wezzleywezzley » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:17 pm

so electronic signature is fine? thanks!

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Re: 'fiance visa' - we have traveled a LOT the last two years...how should we deal with the past addresses question?

Post by AmazonianX » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:07 am

wezzleywezzley wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:17 pm
so electronic signature is fine? thanks!
Yes acceptable.

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