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ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:03 pm

Hi,
I am on T2 general visa. My first issued BRP shows valid date from 14/04/2017 (I have second BRP issued in 2020), passport 1 month entry clearance date shows valid from 06/05/2017 to 05/06/2017. I entered UK on 14/05/2017. I am not clear which date will be the reference date when counting 28 days application rule. Many thanks.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by mitra_krishna » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:48 pm

rza22 wrote:
Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:03 pm
Hi,
I am on T2 general visa. My first issued BRP shows valid date from 14/04/2017 (I have second BRP issued in 2020), passport 1 month entry clearance date shows valid from 06/05/2017 to 05/06/2017. I entered UK on 14/05/2017. I am not clear which date will be the reference date when counting 28 days application rule. Many thanks.
As far as I remember, the 28 days is counted from the landing date in the UK, i.e., 14/05/2017. So, around 18 April 2022, you can apply for ILR. However, others can inform better, as I am slightly rusty.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by zimba » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:55 pm

It is from the earliest date of visa approval, so the date on your first BRP. Add 5 years minus 28 days
Note that many immigration documents cannot be backdated, so a sticker may have a later date because it was issued later but your eligibility is based on your visa approval date which could be earlier than another document's issue date. Your first-ever issued BRP often has the visa approval date.
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:55 pm

Hi Zimba,
Many thanks for the reply. In the application form it says "6.1 When did you (the main applicant) first enter the UK? This refers to the date you entered the UK at the beginning of the period of stay on which this application is based." Here I have to enter "14/05/2017" based on my passport stamp. So, how they should count it based on BRP issue date 14/04/2017?
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by zimba » Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:01 pm

rza22 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:55 pm
Hi Zimba,
Many thanks for the reply. In the application form it says "6.1 When did you (the main applicant) first enter the UK? This refers to the date you entered the UK at the beginning of the period of stay on which this application is based." Here I have to enter "14/05/2017" based on my passport stamp. So, how they should count it based on BRP issue date 14/04/2017?
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by CR001 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:01 pm

rza22 wrote:
Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:55 pm
Hi Zimba,
Many thanks for the reply. In the application form it says "6.1 When did you (the main applicant) first enter the UK? This refers to the date you entered the UK at the beginning of the period of stay on which this application is based." Here I have to enter "14/05/2017" based on my passport stamp. So, how they should count it based on BRP issue date 14/04/2017?
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The date entered is entirely separate to the qualifying date. If you entered the UK on the 14th May 2017, then that is the correct date for the question. It doesn't ask you anything other than the actual date you entered.

Please bear in mind that UKVI is well aware of the rules and which date is the start of the qualifying period.
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:32 pm

Thank you Zimba and CR001,
My wife, daughter, and I all arrived at the same time and they are on a T2 General Dependant pass. They, like me, are qualified to apply for ILR.

1. I intend to apply for a super priority service for me only, and I will submit a separate application later for them (my daughter's passport expired and waiting for application submission for a new one). I believe nothing wrong with this, they can apply separately, RIGHT?
2. I guess, they'll have to fill out the SET(O) form as well. Is it possible for them to apply together or would they have to submit separate applications?

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by zimba » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:41 pm

1. Correct
2. They all can apply using one SET(O) application
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by SumitC » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:19 pm

Hi rza22,
My case is very close to as yours.
Did you get the decision?

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by SumitC » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:50 pm

Zimba wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:41 pm
1. Correct
2. They all can apply using one SET(O) application
Hi Zimba,
In this case on point 2, am i correct to say that....dependent needs to apply for set(M) as main applicant will have ILR by the time their application will be processed.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by CR001 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:53 pm

No, dependents apply on set O.

Set m is for those who hold a qualifying spouse settlement visa for 5 years as the spouse of a person settled or a British citizen.
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by SumitC » Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:05 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:53 pm
No, dependents apply on set O.

Set m is for those who hold a qualifying spouse settlement visa for 5 years as the spouse of a person settled or a British citizen.
Hi CR001,
My case is very close to this one....could you please have a look on this thread and help me on my 4 questions? :D
indefinite-leave-to-remain/date-of-entr ... l#p2062022

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:26 am

Hi Sumit,
No I haven't applied yet. I found that My BRP issue date is 24/04/2017 (not 14th as mentioned before), Vignette Issue date 06/05/2017. According to Zimba's advice I was thinking of considering BRP date minus 28 days, but the last reply you received from Vinny on your above link created another confusion. Not sure why Vinny is suggesting Vignette date to consider as a reference date.
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by vinny » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:27 am

Normally, an entry clearance vignette is issued before a BRP? But perhaps it’s different now?
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:37 am

I don't know this. But, in the Vignette I can see: Valid from 06/05/2017---Valid until 05/06/2017. I entered UK on 14/05/2017. I collected my BRP after arriving in the UK. In the BRP I can see: Place and date of issue UK 22/04/2017-- Valid until 28/05/2022.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:38 am

sorry, In the BRP I can see: Place and date of issue UK 22/04/2017-- Valid until 28/05/2017.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by vinny » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:43 am

Very strange. Perhaps use the earlier date as the start of your qualifying period?
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by vinny » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:52 am

My guess is that they decided to grant leave 22/04/2017. Then there was a delay in issuing the vignette?
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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:12 am

This is what Zimba has explained before in the post, I believe.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by dev-ag » Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:18 am

@rza22 did you apply. If yes, what date did you use?

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 am

Hi All, this is the summary.
My First BRP issue date: 22/04/2017.
Vignette valid from: 6/05/2017.
I entered UK: 14/05/2017.
I made ILR application: 28/03/2022.
UKVCAS appointment: 13/04/2022.
Received Successful decision email: 14/04/2022.
Thank you everyone for valuable comments.

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Re: ILR 5 years qualifying period count

Post by rza22 » Tue May 10, 2022 12:37 pm

rza22 wrote:
Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 am
Hi All, this is the summary.
My First BRP issue date: 22/04/2017.
Vignette valid from: 6/05/2017.
I entered UK: 14/05/2017.
I made ILR application: 28/03/2022.
UKVCAS appointment: 13/04/2022.
Received Successful decision email: 14/04/2022.
Thank you everyone for valuable comments.
Please note that my application date was based on the BRP reference date, but because I didn't get an earlier UKVCAS appointment date, the appointment date was based on the Vignette reference date.

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