Confusion over profession ('other' option contains students and voluntary workers)

[sm12]

The reason that I ask is that my brother, who wants to apply for citizenship, knows professionals from the list in our home country.
In the UK, he only knows a doctor who is a family friend, but it is not clear whether doctors can be referees.

[AmazonianX]

The reason that I ask is that my brother, who wants to apply for citizenship, knows professionals from the list in our home country. I would think since application is in ref for BC, would be right for such referee to be in the UK. Stand to becorrected
In the UK, he only knows a doctor who is a family friend, but it is not clear whether doctors can be referees. Drs no more on the list

[sm12]

The reason that I ask is that my brother, who wants to apply for citizenship, knows professionals from the list in our home country. I would think since application is in ref for BC, would be right for such referee to be in the UK. Stand to becorrected
In the UK, he only knows a doctor who is a family friend, but it is not clear whether doctors can be referees. Drs no more on the list

Thank you. I read on the passport application page that a doctor who is friend (rather than someone who knows you only professionally) can sometimes be a referee, so I wondered if the same applied to the BC application.

[vinny]

I don’t think that they restrict a professional referee’s location?

[sm12]

My brother was working for over a decade in the UK, before he had to quit work due to disability.

In the form, there's an option to state he is unemployed, but there's no place to provide his past employment history.

Will it negatively affect his application if he is unemployed?

[AmazonianX]

My brother was working for over a decade in the UK, before he had to quit work due to disability.

In the form, there's an option to state he is unemployed, but there's no place to provide his past employment history.

Will it negatively affect his application if he is unemployed?

No, there is no employment requirement for BC application to be approved. If concerned and there such information put in additional info section.

[sm12]

I don’t think that they restrict a professional referee’s location?

Hi Vinny,
Thank you for your reply.
I noticed that the form actually only provides the option for city and post code, and not country, which made me wonder if the expectation is that the person should be in the UK.

Also, would a CIPD professional count, even though this professional qualification is not in the list provided by HO? The person in question is planning to move abroad soon though and he might not be willing to give a reference as he doesn't know my brother. The doctor, on the other hand, knows him very well and has known our family for decades.

[sm12]

My brother was working for over a decade in the UK, before he had to quit work due to disability.

In the form, there's an option to state he is unemployed, but there's no place to provide his past employment history.

Will it negatively affect his application if he is unemployed?

No, there is no employment requirement for BC application to be approved. If concerned and there such information put in additional info section.

Thank you. Do documents have to be provided for 5 years? The online form is only asking about current employment, but it seems from some posts that 5 years of employment history has to be provided?

[alterhase58]

My brother was working for over a decade in the UK, before he had to quit work due to disability.

In the form, there's an option to state he is unemployed, but there's no place to provide his past employment history.

Will it negatively affect his application if he is unemployed?

No, there is no employment requirement for BC application to be approved. If concerned and there such information put in additional info section.

Thank you. Do documents have to be provided for 5 years? The online form is only asking about current employment, but it seems from some posts that 5 years of employment history has to be provided?

Following the new Immigration & Borders Act there have been updates implemented, including removal of the employment history section. Effective 28 June 2022. So not required. However, if you wish to provide additional information you are free to do so - note there wasn't a requirement to prove employment. Unemployment is not a barrier to approval.

[Ticktack]

I don’t think that they restrict a professional referee’s location?

Hi Vinny,
Thank you for your reply.
I noticed that the form actually only provides the option for city and post code, and not country, which made me wonder if the expectation is that the person should be in the UK.

Also, would a CIPD professional count, even though this professional qualification is not in the list provided by HO? The person in question is planning to move abroad soon though and he might not be willing to give a reference as he doesn't know my brother. The doctor, on the other hand, knows him very well and has known our family for decades.

Professionals outside the UK would take much longer to verify. Thereby delaying the application much longer than it should be.

[sm12]

Thank you.
Would a CIPD professional count?

Also, on the pages for passport applications, it says that doctors can't sign unless they know the patient very well, and not just in a professional capacity. Does this apply to naturalization as well?

[sm12]

Hello,

My brother is disabled so I filled his form for him, as he wants to become a British citizen.

He is unable to work due to his disability and was forced to quit his job, but he has been studying (just a couple of online courses), and undertook some volunteer work.

I had ticked 'no' on the form for the question of whether he is employed, but later I realised that if you click 'yes', it shows you an 'other' option, which in brackets is for voluntary workers and students.

I am somewhat puzzled as he not employed by the charity he did voluntary work for, so even though he undertook voluntary work, he is not employed. Moreover, he is technically a student as he studying two courses online, but it still doesn't mean that he is employed.

Could someone please advise whether I should just go with the 'no' option, or go with 'yes' and click the other option? They ask for the 'employer's address and there is no place to explain there is no employer for a volunteer/student.

[Ticktack]

Hello,

My brother is disabled so I filled his form for him, as he wants to become a British citizen.

He is unable to work due to his disability and was forced to quit his job, but he has been studying (just a couple of online courses), and undertook some volunteer work.

I had ticked 'no' on the form for the question of whether he is employed, but later I realised that if you click 'yes', it shows you an 'other' option, which in brackets is for voluntary workers and students.

I am somewhat puzzled as he not employed by the charity he did voluntary work for, so even though he undertook voluntary work, he is not employed. Moreover, he is technically a student as he studying two courses online, but it still doesn't mean that he is employed.

Could someone please advise whether I should just go with the 'no' option, or go with 'yes' and click the other option? They ask for the 'employer's address and there is no place to explain there is no employer for a volunteer/student.

It doesn't matter what you go along with. Employment isn't a requirement for British Citizenship.
Just answer the questions as true to the current situation as possible. It has no effect on the application.