Work Experience Letter

[pipo_2004]

Hi,

I have submitted my HSMP application and I don't know if my work experience letter would be rejected or not. Here is the content,

This is to certify that Mr. XXX was employed at XXX Company as XX Manager under XXX Department. He has been with the company from the period xxx until xxx. This certification is issued upon the request of Mr. xxx for whatever legal purpose it may serve him.

This letter has been issued a long time ago even before HSMP was conceived and I never cared about it until now. This type of letter is the standard norm in our country. Anybody here who has a good comment about it. Do you think the caseworker would reject it?

[lightpace]

i daresay the letter may not serve the full purpose of the caseworker's job. dont forget the full description of duties and responsibilities must be included for it to fly.

[pipo_2004]

Thanks Mate.. Then I would definitely get a 0 points for this. Would anybody here in this forum have any template letter for a senior/specialist position. I am in the IT industry and have tons of MS and Sun Certifications as well as trainings abroad. Could I claim in the letter that I am a specialist and corroborate it with my IT certifications/training certificates just to prove my point. The HR manager who previously signed the letter below has already moved to another company. Could I still make him sign using the previous company's letterhead and say that it's just a supplement to the previous letter or should I just let the current president of the company sign it to be credible enough. Any ideas guys? please help me as I needed the 35 points just to be able to pass the 65 points cutoff. Please I desperately need anybody's good opinion on this!!!

[lynn132]

I called the HR department of a past employer and they wrote me a short letter. Key items: an explicit statement that the position required a graduate degree, an explicit statement that the position was a a specialist in "whatever- you're a specialist" in, and a full listing of duties and responsibilities.

[pipo_2004]

Thanks lynn132. The situation is I have already submitted the old one. Now I am submitting a "supplement" just to highlight the duties and responsibilites in addition to the old letter. That's the reason why I am contacting the past HR manager just to be consistent but she is already connected with another company. Would this complicate things because its printed on the company's letterhead with a former HR manager signing it.

[lynn132]

Just include an explanation. With my application, I included a list of supporting information that included notes about anything out of the ordinary like that.

[pipo_2004]

BTW would this be a paid or unpaid appeal?

[lynn132]

I think the rule is that if you provide new documents, you have to pay, if you are simply explaining the documents you originally submitted, it's unpaid. But check the rest of the forum, as that topic has been discussed in great detail.

[Saint]

did you receive your decision? If not it's actually not an appeal and you don't have to pay anything to send additional docs. However, if your case is already assigned to a caseworker, HO might not take your additional docs into consideration.

[lynn132]

Saint is right - if you have applied but not received a decision yet, you may just want to wait and see. Sending docs while your application is pending can be complicated - I saw one guy that sent them in, but was rejected because the documents didn't get put with his application. He was approved on appeal - and I don't think he had to pay an additional fee.

[pipo_2004]

Yes you're right lynn. I might as well wait for the decision. It's better to wait than actually clutter them with a follow-up document even before the decision is made. It's actually on its way but I have not got it yet. I am little bit nervous because of this letter. I will let you guys know what they will say about it.

[pipo_2004]

Hi All,

I have just talked with our former hr manager who signed the original work experience letter and she is willing to write a new one stating my duties and responsibilities. The problem is, she wants to put the date just before she left our old company years ago. Would this be a problem? Or should I just ask her to print an explanation why she "back-dated" it using her current company's letter head. Would this complicate matters to the case worker.

[JhonnyECU]

hey pipo,

check this link to analyze all of your documents

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en ... de_to.html

jhonny

[Junior0300]

I applied for the HSMP incountry application and got rejected on the work experience letter. my previous letter was something like this

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This is to certify that mr xxx has been in our full time employment as Analyst / Developer, starting from xxx till xxx. He has been withdrawing a salary of Rs. ***** per month plus benefits.

The responsibilities he has been carrying out were to gather market information, analyze interpret and determine implications for business decisions and finally to develop business and financial solutions in line with the business needs. Some of the tools and technologies used were Visual Basic, Visual C++, SQL Server, UML etc. He possesses strong analytical and problem solving skills along with brilliant programming skills.

This role is normally offered to graduates having a minimum educational standard of a UK first degree level qualification or equivalent. The candidate does not necessarily have to hold a degree but the post normally requires one. In overall service he proved himself as a skillful, devoted and honest worker. His strong communication skills are also a quality. I wish him a very bright future.

Note: All of his work experience (more than 4 years) within the company should be considered as a full time professional work without any training period.

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HSMP team has refused my application stating

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With reference to paragraph 7.2.1 of the HSMP guidance notes, the evidence provided should demonstrate that the job roles undertaken would normally require a minimum educational standard of a UK first degree level qualification of equivalent. We were not satisfied that sufficient evidence was provided to demonstrate any graduate level experience as described in the published guidance notes of the HSMP arrangements. Consequently we were unable to award points for this category.
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Could anyone let me know whats going on with the HSMP team!!!

[f2k]

I think the problem was that, you copied the exact wording for the requirements from the guidance notes

This role is normally offered to graduates having a minimum educational standard of a UK first degree level qualification or equivalent. The candidate does not necessarily have to hold a degree but the post normally requires one.

Just a question were you employed in the UK for the duration you are claiming experience for, if not then there will be great concern from the caseworker about why the role you were working in required a minimum UK standards etc.
Also in terms of the letter itself, was it on the company letterhead, who was it signed by and are you currently working there or not, you see there might be suspicion that the letter is not genuine

[Junior0300]

My case was refused earlier on the same reason, at that time it was written in my reference letter that i was doing a graduate level job. After getting refused i copied the exact text from their guidance notes but still they are not convinced.
All of my work experience is from my home country Pakistan, the letter is on the company s letter head and signed by the director.

Shall I go for the paid service like workpermit.com

[narveer]

Hi Junior,

You should call up the caseworker and should ask whats wrong with the letter.Its very important to know why they have rejected your letter so that you appeal and add important points in your letter.