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ILR query

Post by indian89 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:52 pm

Currently have a spouse visa (extended 2 years back). The BRP expiry is end of October 2023, can I apply prior to expiry date, e.g. get application submitted 2 days before BRP.

Do the biometrics have to be done prior to RRP expiry or can they be done even after BRP expiry as long as application submitted?

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Re: ILR query

Post by CR001 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:02 pm

Date of application is the date you submit and pay online and must be done before visa expiry.

Biometrics can be done at any time even if the visa has expired.
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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:26 pm

Thank you. Do you not become overstayer if biometrics are done after BRP expiry even if application was submitted before?

Also how many forms of address letters is needed for ILR submission, e.g. council tax bills, electric etc

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Re: ILR query

Post by CR001 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:29 pm

Do you not become overstayer if biometrics are done after BRP expiry even if application was submitted before?
No! Biometrics is ONLY for identity check and finger prints and photo. They are done by a third party agent, not UKVI. The date of application is the date you submit and pay for the application online. That is it.
Also how many forms of address letters is needed for ILR submission, e.g. council tax bills, electric etc
Last two years, from 3 to 6 different sources, spread evenly for every 3 to 4 months.
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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:46 pm

CR001 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:29 pm
Do you not become overstayer if biometrics are done after BRP expiry even if application was submitted before?
No! Biometrics is ONLY for identity check and finger prints and photo. They are done by a third party agent, not UKVI. The date of application is the date you submit and pay for the application online. That is it.
Also how many forms of address letters is needed for ILR submission, e.g. council tax bills, electric etc
Last two years, from 3 to 6 different sources, spread evenly for every 3 to 4 months.
Thank you. Do the supporting documents have to be submitted before BRP expiry?

I understand they are uploaded onto UKVCAs system?

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Re: ILR query

Post by CR001 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:23 pm

No, the don't!
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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:47 am

CR001 wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:23 pm
No, the don't!
Thanks - it seems weird all you need to do is submit application before expiry.

What is the reason biometrics and supporting documentation can be done far later?

Is this written somewhere on government website

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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:03 am

If the supporting documents are uploaded after BRP expiry is this ok as long as application is completed?

I have read the application is not sent for processing until supporting documents are done so if BRP expired by this point is that the issue?

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Re: ILR query

Post by CR001 » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:43 am

1. Yes!!!

2. No issue!!!!
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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:11 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:43 am
1. Yes!!!

2. No issue!!!!
Where is this part on UK gov website, I tried to look for it but never found.

Appreciate your help and for answering my ques, probably can tell I am stressed!

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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:45 am

I am sticking to my own thread as requested. Plesse could you help me understand why biometrics and supporting documents upload can be done even if BRP expired

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Re: ILR query

Post by vinny » Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:36 am

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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:46 am

vinny wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:36 am
Mirza.
Sorry I am not seeing which part answers my question

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Re: ILR query

Post by vinny » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:05 pm

indian89 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:47 am
What is the reason biometrics and supporting documentation can be done far later?
indian89 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:46 am
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Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:36 am
Mirza.
Sorry I am not seeing which part answers my question
The Supreme Court confirmed that a Biometrics appointment may be after expiry of leave. But the application date should be in-time to trigger Section 3C.
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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:48 pm

vinny wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:05 pm
indian89 wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:47 am
What is the reason biometrics and supporting documentation can be done far later?
indian89 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:46 am
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Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:36 am
Mirza.
Sorry I am not seeing which part answers my question
The Supreme Court confirmed that a Biometrics appointment may be after expiry of leave. But the application date should be in-time to trigger Section 3C.
What about supporting documents upload on UKVCAS, is that ok AFTER BRP expiry?

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Re: ILR query

Post by zimba » Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:15 am

The date of BRP expiry is not relevant at all as section 3C applies, so your leave is automatically extended
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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:49 pm

zimba wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:15 am
The date of BRP expiry is not relevant at all as section 3C applies, so your leave is automatically extended
Thanks for confirming.

I have a diff question, do we have to provide pictures to prove relationship for ILR? We have done this previously for initial spouse visa and renewal.

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Re: ILR query

Post by zimba » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:59 pm

No such requirement exists
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Is ILR moving to 8 years?

Post by indian89 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:54 pm

Currently spouse visa and next step ILR application in September.

Is the time frame for ILR moving to 8 years from previous 5?

Also can biometrics be done after visa expiry date on BRP?

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Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:56 pm

The 8 years is just a proposal by the New Conservatives group of MPs as part of their proposals to clamp down on immigration.
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Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?

Post by indian89 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:56 pm
The 8 years is just a proposal by the New Conservatives group of MPs as part of their proposals to clamp down on immigration.
What do you mean new group

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Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?

Post by zimba » Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:02 pm

indian89 wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:54 pm
Currently spouse visa and next step ILR application in September.

Is the time frame for ILR moving to 8 years from previous 5?

Also can biometrics be done after visa expiry date on BRP?
No. There has never been ANY official home office or proposed government policy to change the ILR qualifying period.
The panic seems to have originated from a political pressure group conference: general-uk-immigration-forum/ilr-change ... l#p2120794

The date of application is the date you submit it online. If you apply for a new application before visa expiry, you get section 3C protection. This means your visa gets extended automatically after its expiry date until you get a decision. The Biometrics date does not affect anything and does not matter. This was already explained to you above
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Re: Is ILR moving to 8 years?

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:12 pm

indian89 wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:00 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:56 pm
The 8 years is just a proposal by the New Conservatives group of MPs as part of their proposals to clamp down on immigration.
What do you mean new group
The group is called “New Conservatives”. As said there’s no government proposal to change current requirements.
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ILR application form confusing question

Post by indian89 » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:36 am

Would appreciate help on following please.

Whilst completing ILR partner visa there is the following questions:

Do you have any friends in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?

Are you part of any social groups or do you have other cultural ties in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?
(Required)
This could include social networks or connections to any of these countries


My spouse has lived in UK for over 5 years but is the question aimed at her previous country of birth or does it include friends and social groups in UK too?

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Re: ILR query

Post by indian89 » Sat Aug 19, 2023 12:01 pm

Passed B1 IELTS life skills speaking and listening in 08/2020. Used this for spouse extension visa.
The certificate says CEFR level - B1

Can it also be used for indefinite leave to remain application or is a new one needed now it has been 3 years?

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