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Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

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Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by rk12345 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:52 am

Here is the history

2019-2020- Tier 4 DES
2020-2022 - skilled worker visas
2022-2023 - Global Talent
2023 onwards - ILR

Can I apply this year for citizenship or does Tier 4 DES not count towards the 5 year lawful residence period?

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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by CR001 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:21 am

It counts. Why would it not count? It is a visa.

And unless you are married to a British citizen, you don't qualify for citizenship yet.
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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by rk12345 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:04 am

[quote=CR001 post_id=2165761 time=1717485664 user_id=70994]
It counts. Why would it not count? It is a visa.

And unless you are married to a British citizen, you don't qualify for citizenship yet.
[/quote]

Thank you for that!

To clarify, I have lived in the UK since 2015, first on TIER 4 GENERAL from 2015-2019, then the Tier 4 DES period, then 2 years of skilled worker visas, then Global Talent and then ILR. I will very soon have had ILR for one year. So are you saying that the Tier 4 and Tier 4 DES does not count towards the 5 year period for citizenship (which includes one year of ILR?) ?

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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by CR001 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:43 am

Read the first to words I typed again in my response.

Where do you conclude I said it does not count??

Citizenship is not an immigration application where certain visas are excluded from a qualifying period.
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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by rk12345 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:48 am

[quote=CR001 post_id=2165778 time=1717497823 user_id=70994]
Read the first to words I typed again in my response.

Where do you conclude I said it does not count??

Citizenship is not an immigration application where certain visas are excluded from a qualifying period.
[/quote]

Sorry, I know you said that counts, my query was in relation to the latter part, which I should have phrased better. Why would I need to be married to a British citizen to qualify if I have 5 years residence (including one year ILR)? Have I misunderstood somehow?

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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by CR001 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:53 am

If you are married to a British citizen, it is an application based on 3 years residence and you do not need to wait 12 months on ilr.

I was merely indicating you don't qualify for citizenship yet.
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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by rk12345 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:20 pm

Thanks, I understand now!

Basically I just need to just wait for the 12 month mark of ILR at which point I can consider applying.

Thanks for the advice and clarifications!

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Re: Does Tier 4 DES count towards 5 years lawful residence?

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:39 am

rk12345 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:20 pm
Thanks, I understand now!

Basically I just need to just wait for the 12 month mark of ILR at which point I can consider applying. Correct.

Thanks for the advice and clarifications!

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