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[PN1991]

Hi,
I am looking to apply for my ILR from an Ancestry Visa, but have a few questions.

I arrived in the UK 30 August 2019, making 30 August 2020 my 5 year mark.

I have spent many months out of the country during this period. Do those subtract any of the 5 years?

My visa expires on the 5-year mark, which I assume is common, for that reason, I can't apply for ILR until my Ancestry Visa is close to expiring. What I understand is that I can stay in the UK while my visa is pending, is that right? So I apply for my ILR in August 2024 and continue working while the ILR process continues, even though my Ancestry Visa would have expired?
What happens if I am not accepted? Can I pivot to applying for another visa?
I know I can't leave the country during the processing period.
Once I receive the ILR do I also have to remain in the country for a period?

Another question, I am currently in the UK working, but I am here following my partner's career. There is a chance she will find a job in Canada while I am waiting on my ILR/just received my ILR etc.
Is there any repercussion regarding returning to the UK on a different visa in my long-term future, if I've left the UK during ILR processing? What are the consequences of moving right after I receive my ILR?

Final question, I have been out of the country for a maximum of 175 days in any calendar period (phew!). However, I have been out of the country for 183 days only if half days are included as being outside the UK (ie. travel days where I started in the UK and took a flight/train outside the UK).

According to Gov.UK they don't count half days (see below), but I thought I would flag it, just in case anyone has had bad experiences in this realm?
"Count whole days (12:00 am to 12:00 pm)
You must only include whole days when calculating an applicant’s absences. Part day absences, less than 24 hours are not counted.
For example, if the applicant was absent for 180 days during the 12 month period and started their journey back to the UK on day 180 but arrived on day 181, day 181 would not be a day of absence and the period would not exceed 180 days."

Other options I am considering:
-1 Year CoS
-Become a dependent on my partner's visa (this may be the best option?)
-Renew Ancestry Visa

Thanks so much for your help!

Best,
Phil

[CR001]

I have spent many months out of the country during this period. Do those subtract any of the 5 years?

That is not how it works. The rules are simple, you cannot have more than 180 days absence in any rolling 12 month period. So it all depends on how extensive your absences are. If more than 180 days in any 12 month period, your continuous residence is broken.

My visa expires on the 5-year mark, which I assume is common, for that reason, I can't apply for ILR until my Ancestry Visa is close to expiring. What I understand is that I can stay in the UK while my visa is pending, is that right?

You can apply 28 days before you reach 5 years. You were already advised of this in your other topic.

So I apply for my ILR in August 2024 and continue working while the ILR process continues, even though my Ancestry Visa would have expired?

Correct, provided you submitted and paid for your application before your visa expires.

What happens if I am not accepted? Can I pivot to applying for another visa?

UKVI usually give you an option to apply for a visa and ask you to pay the immigration health surcharge.

I know I can't leave the country during the processing period.
Once I receive the ILR do I also have to remain in the country for a period?

No.

Another question, I am currently in the UK working, but I am here following my partner's career. There is a chance she will find a job in Canada while I am waiting on my ILR/just received my ILR etc.
Is there any repercussion regarding returning to the UK on a different visa in my long-term future, if I've left the UK during ILR processing? What are the consequences of moving right after I receive my ILR?

No issues, irrelevant. You were already advised of this in your other topic.

Final question, I have been out of the country for a maximum of 175 days in any calendar period (phew!). However, I have been out of the country for 183 days only if half days are included as being outside the UK (ie. travel days where I started in the UK and took a flight/train outside the UK).

It is not counted by calendar years. It is ANY 12 month period. Half days are not counted. It is only WHOLE days out of the UK that are counted as absence.

Other options I am considering:
-1 Year CoS
-Become a dependent on my partner's visa (this may be the best option?)
-Renew Ancestry Visa

You have already been given extensive advice about this!!

general-uk-immigration-forum/visa-renew ... l#p2143240

[PN1991]

Hi, sorry for the delayed response. I just wanted to say I found this information very helpful, and have looked into certain options more thoroughly. Thanks so much again! <3

[PN1991]

Hi all,

I will soon be able to apply for ILR via the Ancestry Route.

As I understand it, I don't need to prove my finances, but instead prove that I have work. My current position is a temporary one until October 2024 (my Ancestry Visa expires 30th of August 2024). However, my temporary contract is in the pipeline to be extended for another year.

Is this the type of thing that could cause me problems?

I have asked my boss to expedite the process if possible so that I have some kind of paperwork to prove my job extension.

Thanks in advance for any help!

[zimba]

No. You do not even need to be employed at the date of application:

Applicant unemployed on date of application
If the applicant is unemployed when they apply for further permission to stay or
settlement, you must ask for evidence of their employment record throughout their
previous 5 years on this route and of any attempts they have made, and are making,
to find work (if they have not provided this information with their application). If the
applicant has been unemployed for the entire 5 years, you must ask them to explain
the reasons for this, if they have not done so on their application form.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... cestry.pdf

[PN1991]

Thanks so much for your help!

[PN1991]

Hi all,

I am currently filling out the ILR application. Near the end of the application, it says to submit:
"All previous passports, travel documents or national identity cards that you have used to travel to or remain in the UK"

and later on,

"Any passports provided must be originals."

Does this mean I have to locate my childhood passport for when I was around 2 years old and visited the UK? I will have to get this mailed to myself from Canada, if indeed it exists.

I appreciate, that this is what it literally says, but it seems quite demanding.

Thanks so much!

[meself2]

You don't send any physical documents anywhere. At most, youd need a scanned copy (if you need to add it at all - others will advise on that).

[zxyzhgp]

I did not submit my previous passport, not even mentioned it because it was not related to that ILR route
what ILR route you use?

[AmazonianX]

Hi all,

I am currently filling out the ILR application. Near the end of the application, it says to submit:
"All previous passports, travel documents or national identity cards that you have used to travel to or remain in the UK"

and later on,

"Any passports provided must be originals."

Does this mean I have to locate my childhood passport for when I was around 2 years old and visited the UK? I will have to get this mailed to myself from Canada, if indeed it exists.

I appreciate, that this is what it literally says, but it seems quite demanding.

Thanks so much!

Scan only the passport(s) containing relevant immigration history for the ILR application you are making.

[zimba]

Online applications, UKVCAS appointments, eVisa & BRP queries - Read before you post

[PN1991]

Hi everyone, thanks for the feedback.

I suppose I undersood: "Any passports provided must be originals." to mean physical copies, but if a scan is sufficient that is helpful.

I also understood: "All previous passports, travel documents or national identity cards that you have used to travel to or remain in the UK" to mean any passport I have ever had associated with travelling to the UK in my past.

But do we think that my trip to the UK at 2 years old is not relevant to this? I don't think it would be, but the wording says "all previous passports...used to travel to...the UK"

I am happy to only scan my most recent passports if you think that will be fine.

I am on the 5 Year Ancestry Route.


Thanks again!

[zimba]

Only the last 5 years are relevant as that is your qualifying period. No physical document is submitted or sent and this has been the case since 2018

[PN1991]

Hi,

This is a question on my ILR application, but it seems ambiguous to me:
"Does a relative or friend of you or your spouse or partner (if applicable) regularly give you money?"

Should I say Yes or No to this?
This is my situation - I pay the full rent each month, and then my girlfriend bank transfers me to reimburse me for half.

Thank you!

[zimba]

Just say NO

[AmazonianX]

Hi,

This is a question on my ILR application, but it seems ambiguous to me:
"Does a relative or friend of you or your spouse or partner (if applicable) regularly give you money?"

Should I say Yes or No to this?
This is my situation - I pay the full rent each month, and then my girlfriend bank transfers me to reimburse me for half.

Thank you!

[PN1991]

Thank you, I will follow your advice.

Another similar question - this time regarding the Part 1, 2, 3 of "Consent for the Home Office to verify application information"

Is it best if I do or don't sign Part 3 which states that
"Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?"

(this is in regards to them doing verification checks on my girlfriend)

I could sign just in case?... as financially speaking I make enough money by myself. But my girlfriend has much more funds than me, and so if this will help my application, I am happy for them to check her funds.

Or maybe not worth it, it will just confuse the application?

Thanks!

[CR001]

Thank you, I will follow your advice.

Another similar question - this time regarding the Part 1, 2, 3 of "Consent for the Home Office to verify application information"

Is it best if I do or don't sign Part 3 which states that
"Does the account with the bank or utility company for which you have supplied information and supporting documentation relate to another person who is to provide you financial support?"

(this is in regards to them doing verification checks on my girlfriend)

I could sign just in case?... as financially speaking I make enough money by myself. But my girlfriend has much more funds than me, and so if this will help my application, I am happy for them to check her funds.

Or maybe not worth it, it will just confuse the application?

Thanks!

Your girlfriend is NOT part of the application and her income is totally irrelevant to your application. You do not need to sign part 3.

[PN1991]

Hi all,

I am so close to submitting my ILR Set "O" from a 5-year Ancestry route! I just want to make sure all is well before I spend the £2885.

I have calculated my absences for each rolling 12-month period with an online tool, and have just snuck in under the 180 at 176 days absent.

Most absences were short 3-10 holidays, but during covid (21 March 2020 - 06 September 2020), I went back home to Canada for 168 days, pushing me very close to the edge.

Essentially my question is this: Is it black & white and 176 days out of the country is as good as any amount below 180?
Or is it worth me getting help from an immigration solicitor just to be safe? (I'd rather not bother)

Second,

I have prepared a lot of documentation to prove my absences, but have nowhere to submit them.
I have printouts of emails of flight confirmations, travel insurance (if I didn't fly), scans of passport stamps etc.

Is there any supplemental information that is best to submit with my application, or do I submit it all after?
For example, should I be submitting any additional arguments for why I was out of the country for so long? Essentially it is because during the pandemic, life was very unsure, and I wanted to be near family.

Here is my excerpt on my application:
"This was an extended visit to my girlfriend's family and my family in Canada due to the uncertainty of the Covid-19 pandemic. We were concerned that lockdowns & illness would prevent our travel, and we wanted to be around our family during this time of crisis."

Because I am still under 180 days it may not be worth to argue more than that?

My other explanations for absences sound something like this:
"Road trip from Kent to Bruges, Belgium with myself, girlfriend and two friends. We drove through France to get there."

Is that acceptable?

ALSO, I have limited proof of one small (1 day) absence when I did a road trip to Belgium, as there is no flight information, so all I have is travel insurance documentation, and one outbound passport stamp (for some reason they didn't stamp my passport upon my return).

Is this going to be a problem?

And, one last unrelated question...


As I go to submit my application, there is only one option (£2885), and not a second or third option for expedited service. Does this mean I am out of luck?
I would prefer to pay the extra £500, so I have the option to leave the country in the next 6 months, rather than wait for 6 months to hear back!


Sorry for so many questions, and thanks so much for everyone on this forum for their amazing advice!!

[CR001]

I have calculated my absences for each rolling 12-month period with an online tool, and have just snuck in under the 180 at 176 days absent.

Most absences were short 3-10 holidays, but during covid (21 March 2020 - 06 September 2020), I went back home to Canada for 168 days, pushing me very close to the edge.

Essentially my question is this: Is it black & white and 176 days out of the country is as good as any amount below 180?
Or is it worth me getting help from an immigration solicitor just to be safe? (I'd rather not bother)

An immigration solicitor doesn't add any value or influence to an application. The rule is simple, no more than 180 days absence in ANY 12 month period.

I have prepared a lot of documentation to prove my absences, but have nowhere to submit them.
I have printouts of emails of flight confirmations, travel insurance (if I didn't fly), scans of passport stamps etc.

Is there any supplemental information that is best to submit with my application, or do I submit it all after?
For example, should I be submitting any additional arguments for why I was out of the country for so long? Essentially it is because during the pandemic, life was very unsure, and I wanted to be near family.

There is no requirement to submit flight confirmations, travel insurance etc. Passport stamps only.

Here is my excerpt on my application:
"This was an extended visit to my girlfriend's family and my family in Canada due to the uncertainty of the Covid-19 pandemic. We were concerned that lockdowns & illness would prevent our travel, and we wanted to be around our family during this time of crisis."

Because I am still under 180 days it may not be worth to argue more than that?

You are overthinking here. You don't have submit any justification if you are below the 180 days in any 12 month limit.

My other explanations for absences sound something like this:
"Road trip from Kent to Bruges, Belgium with myself, girlfriend and two friends. We drove through France to get there."

Is that acceptable?

You do not need to justify anything or how you travellled.

ALSO, I have limited proof of one small (1 day) absence when I did a road trip to Belgium, as there is no flight information, so all I have is travel insurance documentation, and one outbound passport stamp (for some reason they didn't stamp my passport upon my return).

Is this going to be a problem?

Stamped passport only!

And, one last unrelated question...

As I go to submit my application, there is only one option (£2885), and not a second or third option for expedited service. Does this mean I am out of luck?
I would prefer to pay the extra £500, so I have the option to leave the country in the next 6 months, rather than wait for 6 months to hear back!

The £500 priority 5 days service is not available for Ancestry ILR. You only have the option of standard service or the more pricey (£1000) Super Priority service. This is clearly stated on the UKVI website.

https://www.gov.uk/faster-decision-visa ... ide-the-uk

[PN1991]

Thanks so much as always! Very helpful.

When do I submit copies of the stamps in my passport? Is this during my BRP appointment?

Also, is it a big problem that (for some reason) I only have an outbound stamp, and not a returning stamp in my passport (for my roadtrip to Belgium)? They must have not stamped my passport on my return to the UK.

Thanks again!

[AmazonianX]

Hi all,

I am currently filling out the ILR application. Near the end of the application, it says to submit:
"All previous passports, travel documents or national identity cards that you have used to travel to or remain in the UK"

and later on,

"Any passports provided must be originals."

Does this mean I have to locate my childhood passport for when I was around 2 years old and visited the UK? I will have to get this mailed to myself from Canada, if indeed it exists.

I appreciate, that this is what it literally says, but it seems quite demanding.

Thanks so much!

Scan only the passport(s) containing relevant immigration history for the ILR application you are making.

Scan and upload as part of supporting documents.
Should not be a problem

[PN1991]

Hi all,
Sorry if this is a stupid question.
I've just paid the money and submitted my ILR application before my ancestry visa expiry, woohoo!

And now they've given me 2 months to meet with UKVCAS for my BRP appointment.

I know I can ATTEND this UKVCAS BRP appointment after my visa expires (30 Aug 2024). But is it okay if I wait to BOOK with UKVCAS until after my Visa expires?

I kind of want to keep waiting and checking back to find a convenient time slot & location, which may mean waiting for a few weeks (until after my visa expiry) to even book.

I imagine it's fine to wait, but I didn't want to take any risks!

ALSO 2nd question - my ancestry visa BRP expires 30 August, and now I've applied for ILR. I've gotten an email saying "Replace your BRP with an eVisa now". Do I need to worry about this? Or is this irrelevant in my situation.

You guys are awesome, thanks!

[AmazonianX]

Yes you can do the booking as outlined. It is the submission that is important to be done before expiration of current leave.

[zimba]

There is no risk, you need to understand what section 3C is.
I explained it here: Applicants can benefit from the date of the ILR decision

The request to apply for an eVisa has no relevance to your ILR application either