p60 question

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:11 pm

In april i will have all my documents complete to apply for settlement visa for my pakistani wife apart from p60 which my employer says will come in may, I just want to how much weight does the p60 have on the suceess of the application i.e if i dont submit a p60 will it be a big disadvantage, i I have my 6 months payslip. I also got hold of a p2 notice of tax code but this does not show if I am paying tax

Post by **batleykhan** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:14 am

It is desirable and advantageous but not an essential requirement.

The P2is irrelevant because all that shows is your tax code allowance for that year.

The advantage the P60 has it that it shows what you have earned in a 12 month period.

Although wage slips are useful,however sometime people only send wage slips for periods when they have had a good pay( ie overtime/tips etc). This doesnt show an overall picture, whereas the P60 does.

My advice is if you can get it, then send it.

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:53 am

ok thanks but if the p60 shows what you have earned over a 12 months period then it might be a disadvantage for me because i didnt have a job 7 months ago. you said "Although wage slips are useful,however sometime people only send wage slips for periods when they have had a good pay( ie overtime/tips etc)"
but on my wage slip it clearly state what my basic pay is and what overtime is.

Post by **batleykhan** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:19 am

Beside sending your P60, you will also need a letter from your employers which should state when you started, what job you do, how many hours you work and what your pay rates are.

If you send this, then the ECO should spot the fact that you have only being employed for 4 months or so and thats why your P60 is showing only a fraction of your yearly pay.

If you cant get P60 then a letter like the above should suffice along with your wage slips.Dont just send wage slips

You say your wage slips show basic pay/overtime, but is the overtime paid on a regular basis, or is it a one off now and then. because if it is the latter, then I am afraid your wage slips wont give a true reflection of what you might earn over a year.

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:26 am

yes but i got a letter showing what im hourly rate is how many hours im contracted to and it shows on my payslip what hours are my contract(basic pay) and what is over time. my combined earnins from my 2 jobs is about 1'200

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:28 am

1'200 is my monthly pay from my contracted hours alone

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:04 am

I came accross this post

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 6a96973b6b

he/ shes visa was refused and one of the paragraphs states;

Your sponsor has not provided a p60 or any reliable evidence of her national insurance contributions, nor any indication that the claimed employment is registered with the local Inland Revenue Office.

Why did the eco put this in if p60 is not important

Post by **batleykhan** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:29 am

Who says its not important?.

The P60 is a record from the Inland Revenue to say how much you have earned, how much tax and NI you HAVE paid.

Wage slips can easily be manipulated to say what you want someone to believe. You would be suprised what someone people produce do to get a visa.

Like i have said before, it is desirable and advantageous to send this off with an application.

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:06 pm

you are confusing me. is there a chance my wifes application will be on the basis of not having p60. i got genuine payslips

nightrider · Post by **nightrider** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:14 pm

2036789 wrote:you are confusing me. is there a chance my wifes application will be on the basis of not having p60. i got genuine payslips

do you have regular income in your bank account?

Does your company pay you by bac transfer?

Do you have original bank statements

Do you have over Â£1000 in your bank account?

If yes to all the points above, relax you are fine.

Mate i got rejected because they said i sent photocopied statements and my company stamped wageslips might be fake. I'm legit and a taxpayer. yet they rejected me.. Its all hit and miss.

I've sent a compaint letter to islamabad and have go my mp involved. Lets see what happens..

Post by **batleykhan** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:31 am

Mate i got rejected because they said i sent photocopied statements and my company stamped wage slips might be fake. I'm legit and a taxpayer. yet they rejected me.. Its all hit and miss.

Without genuine documents and documentary evidence from very reliable sources ( eg Inland Revenue, local authority etc) to back up, the above is a classic example of the outcome.

If the ECO has any doubt whatsoever about your application it is going to be most likely refused than being granted.The utmost thing in an ECO mind when deciding to grant visa is whether the sponsor can support and accomadate the applicant without recourse to public funds.

For this reason he has to be 100% sure the applicant is and has genuinely being employed and earning a decent wage to support his spouse. He therefore pays close attention to peoples employment details (including carrying out checks with employers, checking Inland Revenue records etc).

you are confusing me. is there a chance my wifes application will be on the basis of not having p60. i got genuine payslips

They will judge your wifes application on its overall merit, not on the basis of one document. Your task would be made easier if you had this, particularly seeing you are doing two jobs and that you are most likely to be employed by tow different employers.

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:56 pm

i dont get why they rejected you over photocopied bank statement, i thought you are suppose to submit photocopies of this anyway and not the originals

nightrider · Post by **nightrider** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:03 pm

2036789 wrote:i dont get why they rejected you over photocopied bank statement, i thought you are suppose to submit photocopies of this anyway and not the originals

mate i received e-statements from bank, didnt get any statements through the post, when i ordered statements they sent me duplicate balck and white. Got these bank stamped and they charged me Â£10.

eco said during copying process changes may have been made ie names etc and then goes on to say that these may be real but on balance of probabilty we will go negative. lol

What is one suppose to do when they dont receive paper statements, i have started to receive paper statements and have sent latest 2 months worth of wageslips. I understand the eco has to review if new evidence comes to light.

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:16 pm

ok thanks, but when we submit documents, do they have to be originals, e.g original wedding cert, origianal bank statement, payslip etc. because what if the bhs loose them

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:29 pm

also do i nee my national insurance card when submitting to gerrys

Post by **batleykhan** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:18 am

Everything must be original. Only copies of your passport(certified by a solicitor) are allowed.

However make sure you keep copies of everything, because normally you don't get them all back

You don't need to send your NI card. Your NI should be on your wage slip ( or P60 if you are sending one)

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:30 pm

what do you mean you dont always get originals backs, that very worrying, also if you keep photocopies of everything does that mean you can get originals again if they are lost

Post by **batleykhan** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:15 pm

Docs such as marriage , educational certificates are normally return to you, however bank statements,employment letters(sometime wage slips) etc which are solely provided for this specific purpose are for some unknown reasons not always returned.

You keep the photocopies just in case some of the docs are not returned to you because they might not be obtained in their original format again.

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:25 pm

thanks, also one other thing is that my name is spelt differently by my employers one of the spell it "ishaq" and the other "ishaaq" with an extra a. on my passport and birth certificate name is spelt ishaq but when i write it for anything i spell it ishaaq. so on my bank statement, qualificationcertificates, marraige certificate its spelt ishaaq. i just want to know if this will be a problem. as because my employers spell it differently so on my employment letter and p60 it will be different but they both got my national insurance number so i presume it wont please clarify thanks

Post by **batleykhan** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:28 pm

Should not be a problem,dont worry about it

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:12 pm

baitley khan why are you scaring me over the p60 thing ive asked so many lawyers and people and they say im fine without p60 as my payslips are sufficent. how do you know so much have ypou worked in immigration or something. im going to supply a p2 taxing notice for one of my job as they are sending p60 end of may i cant wait

2036789 · Post by **2036789** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:14 pm

batley khan why are you scaring me over the p60 thing ive asked so many lawyers and people and they say im fine without p60 as my payslips are sufficent. how do you know so much have ypou worked in immigration or something. im going to supply a p2 taxing notice for one of my job as they are sending p60 end of may i cant wait

Post by **batleykhan** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:29 am

Supply what you want, seek advice from whom you want, do what you yourself thinks the best.
That is my best advice to you.

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