which EU countries are fast to issue a resident card ?

eueueu · Post by **eueueu** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:43 am

I would like to know which EU countries are fast to issue a resident card for the family member of EU national. If you know that ,please let me know it.

Rozen · Post by **Rozen** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:59 pm

eueueu wrote:I would like to know which EU countries are fast to issue a resident card for the family member of EU national. If you know that ,please let me know it.

The Netherlands issue it in under two months (povided you qualify ofcourse)!
You get to keep your passport (in which they affix a 6 month temporary 'leave to remain' sticker) during the process.
The Resident Card itself (Verblijfsdocument) is separate from your passport, similar to a UK Driving Licence.
Sorry I can't speak for other countries, excepting UK, which is a nightmare when it comes to issuing RCs for Family Members!

86ti · Post by **86ti** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:06 pm

Rozen wrote:You get to keep your passport (in which they affix a 6 month temporary 'leave to remain' sticker) during the process. [

Does this also give the right to work? I know it should but...

Rozen · Post by **Rozen** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:22 pm

86ti wrote:
Rozen wrote:You get to keep your passport (in which they affix a 6 month temporary 'leave to remain' sticker) during the process. [
Does this also give the right to work? I know it should but...

Yes it does!

ck4137 · Post by **ck4137** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:00 am

I just know that Sweden is very,very slow to issue a resident card.

Post by **Directive/2004/38/EC** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:19 am

Some cities in Germany used to issue residence permits to EU citizen the same day once you had a job. Not sure about Residence Cards, but I guess it would also be issued same day. Note that these timings were pre Directive 2004/38/EC, though I donâ€™t see a reason for them to be slower now.

Rozen · Post by **Rozen** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:36 am

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Some cities in Germany used to issue residence permits to EU citizen the same day once you had a job. Not sure about Residence Cards, but I guess it would also be issued same day. Note that these timings were pre Directive 2004/38/EC, though I donâ€™t see a reason for them to be slower now.

Even in the UK, EU citizens can have their RC issued same day at Croydon! It's the non EU Family Members for whom it takes aaaaaggeesssszzzz....

86ti · Post by **86ti** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:41 am

Rozen wrote:Even in the UK, EU citizens can have their RC issued same day at Croydon! It's the non EU Family Members for whom it takes aaaaaggeesssszzzz....

Yes, but it's an appointment system. What are the waiting times at the moment?

Rozen · Post by **Rozen** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:05 pm

86ti wrote: Yes, but it's an appointment system. What are the waiting times at the moment?

Dunno! But the point I was trying to make is that it's relatively easier (and faster) for an EU national to obtain an RC rather than for the non EU national. Sad, but true.

86ti · Post by **86ti** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:09 pm

Rozen wrote:
86ti wrote: Yes, but it's an appointment system. What are the waiting times at the moment?
Dunno! But the point I was trying to make is that it's relatively easier (and faster) for an EU national to obtain an RC rather than for the non EU national. Sad, but true.

I just read in the Directive the other day that the residence certificate can be asked for when applying for the residence card. Sounds like some potential for delay tactics for a "creative" bureaucracy...

zsxue · Post by **zsxue** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:50 pm

What is the processing time for Denmark to issue a resident card to the family member of an EU national?

eldane · Post by **eldane** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:32 pm

My buddy brought his Thai wife back to Denmark from the UK and as a Danish citizen he has to apply at the Danish immigration service which is renowned taking looooooong time in processing applications.
They got hers in just under 2 months.

If the person applying is an EU citizen (not a Danish national returning back to Denmark) s/he must apply at the local stats forvaltning (Local county council) http://www.statsforvaltning.dk/site.aspx?p=4082 and they are known for speedy service and usually delivers in 2 weeks.

Regards,

Michael

ciaramc · Post by **ciaramc** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:50 am

Eldane, Should your buddy not have been considered under EU law? As you mention he was returning back to Denmark from the UK? I know i as an Irish citizen returning back to Ireland with my non-eu spouse after exercising treaty rights in Italy would be considered under EU law? I had to fight this point with the DoJ in Dublin but in the end they got my point!

Had your buddy exercisied treaty rights in the UK?

Anyway 2 months for issuing the RC is fantastic!!

Nobody come to Italy it takes forever well over the six months 9I have know people that have been waiting longer than a year!), unless your lucky/know somebody!

Post by **Directive/2004/38/EC** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:07 am

I would not be surprised if applications under EU law (under the Singh ruling) for family of a EU national who is returning to their own country take a little longer to process than those of family of EU citizens arriving at a new member state.

eldane · Post by **eldane** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:19 am

So my buddy did exercise treaty rights and was indeed considered under the Singh rule. The strange part is that when one apply for a EU residence card as a returning Danish national theres no-where one can tick to make the case worker aware that one is applying under the Singh rule. Just 3-4 questions like if one has been exercising treaty right in another EEA country, how long, hwo many hours one was workign etc. and if one has any futher to add to the case. I have asked who decide if the applicantion is to be worked under Singh or national rules and was told the case worker does. I told I find that totally unresonable. But was politely told to f@@@ off.
The route whre the application is worked under is crucial to know as as you all know EEA cases should be processed in less than 6 months and if not the immigration services can easily justify this by saying: "ahh, but we are procissing your application under national rules". And that puts you chess mate.
The problem with Danish immigration is that many processes are not public as in the UK hence it is very difficult to fight your case. Denmark is specialists in making everything look peaceful and correct on paper but then behind the scenes things are very different.

My point is; Denmark has two points of "entry" where cards are issued.

Danish nationals who has exercised treaty rights = Immigration department
Other EU nationals = Country council

Now, my buddy was lucky that it only took 2 months. There are many stories of it taking more than the EU stipulated 6 months as the maximum processing time.

Best regards,

Michael

global gypsy · Post by **global gypsy** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:23 pm

I have a question somewhat related to this topic:
Which EU country offers the fastest route to citizenship?
This is from the point when one becomes a resident.

Based on my research so far, it seems the fastest is 5 years.
(I am excluding Nordic countries that offer citizenship to fellow Nordics in 3 years.)

Post by **Directive/2004/38/EC** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:38 pm

global gypsy wrote:I have a question somewhat related to this topic:
Which EU country offers the fastest route to citizenship?
This is from the point when one becomes a resident.

Based on my research so far, it seems the fastest is 5 years.
(I am excluding Nordic countries that offer citizenship to fellow Nordics in 3 years.)

It so much depends on the particular situation of the person doing the application. Do they have other citizenships? Who are they married to? How long have they been resident? How fast is the real application process as opposed to the official application process?

global gypsy · Post by **global gypsy** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:52 pm

I am referring to the following scenario:
1. non-marriage route
2. EU citizen who has taken up residence in another EU country

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