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They certainly do mate. They will also be subjected to answering irrelevant and stupid question.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do the non-EU have to fill out a form?
I was asked why i haven't led an independent life? even though i showed them my university admission letter and Tution fees paid by my sister, and the fact that i have never worked and under 21 years.ciaramc wrote:Obie can I ask you what kind of questions they ask?
I can only imagine, I always wondered about this? Lets say in a couple of years myself (Irish citizen exercising treaty rights moving home under EU law) and my Non-EU spouse arrive at Dublin airport? Does he go through the non-eu queue alone or could I go with him??
Could it be he did not have a passport himself and was wondering about the process of getting one?Obie wrote:The officer even had the audacity of asking her how she obtained her British Passport.
I thought along those lines as well. Or perhaps there was some underlying cognitive deficiency.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote: Could it be he did not have a passport himself and was wondering about the process of getting one?
I had already told him we will not dignify that question with an answer, before my sister intervened and answered his silly question.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Remember they can ask all the questions they want, but you do not have to answer them. It may be worth very visibly writing down the questions they are asking.
When travelling together we always go to the non-EU queue together and hand in both passports. Usually 0 questions are asked and the non-EU passport simply stamped. We do this as I am willing to stand up to the Immigration officers should they get "arsy". We have tried both going to the EU counter together only to be turned back so haven't done this since. We've gone seperately and my husband has been asked questions (nothing harassing or difficult). It's just easier to go together we've found. We do the same when we visit other EU countries. When we've handed in the 2 passports together my husband has been asked far fewer (usually none) questions.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Question about arriving as a family with some people having EU passports, and some having non-visa-requiring passports.
Do the non-EU have to use a different lane from the EU? Do they need to fill out forms, or is the passport just stamped on entry?
Or is the inspection just as quick as the EU inspection?
I asked this question to the European Commission on 04/06/09 and am awaiting a reply.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Question about arriving as a family with some people having EU passports, and some having non-visa-requiring passports.
Do the non-EU have to use a different lane from the EU? Do they need to fill out forms, or is the passport just stamped on entry?
Or is the inspection just as quick as the EU inspection?
In my experience, currently there are no forms / landing cards at Irish ports of entry.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do the non-EU have to fill out a form?
Incorrect. An EU national's right to reside in accordance with the Directive is, beyond the first three months, conditional on his/her exercising a Treaty Right. It is reasonable, therefore, that an EU national is asked "what she is doing in Ireland".Obie wrote:My sister (EU National) was asked what she is doing in Ireland. Even though she is an EU national and not allowed to be asked that kind of question.
They gave me a form to fill in my details. Perhaps that is not a landing form. It might be due to me not providing them with a visa. I will check with my sister as she was the one that filled it.benifa wrote:
No, currently there are no forms / landing cards at Irish ports of entry.
I sort of agree with you in a way. But my point was, she showed them a work transfer letter and it was her first entrance into Ireland.benifa wrote:Incorrect. An EU national's right to reside in accordance with the Directive is, beyond the first three months, conditional on his/her exercising a Treaty Right. It is reasonable, therefore, that an EU national is asked "what she is doing in Ireland".
I do not see why it is reasonable to ask an EU citizen on arrival. They can enter as they wish. Even if they previously were not working and staying too long, each arrival resets the clock and they get the initial 90 days of time to do whatever they want.Incorrect. An EU national's right to reside in accordance with the Directive is, beyond the first three months, conditional on his/her exercising a Treaty Right. It is reasonable, therefore, that an EU national is asked "what she is doing in Ireland".
You suppose wrong Obie.Obie wrote:I suppose you will agree with them asking her "How did she obtain her British Passport" as well.
Exactly archigabe - this is the main problem.archigabe wrote:I guess the questions depend on the officers manning the booth.
Sorry i was a bit sleepy earlier. What exactly did i post that is incorrect.benifa wrote:*sigh*
You see this is what you do - you post something, get corrected or read an alternative opinion, defend yourself, then post back all humble-like with your tale between your legs.
So many threads of late have been like this. What's the point?
Unfortunately phpBB2 doesn't have an ignore facility.
Same experience. On the flight home just before landing the airline staff go through the plan handing out Landing Cards to all non-EU passengers. The card is from Immigration and has to be handed in to the Immigration staff.esharknz wrote:I've been asked to fill out an entry form twice to Ireland. Once coming in from Prague, and the other from Philidelphia. Just basic questions really. Have flown in countless time otherwise and never had these.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do the non-EU have to fill out a form?
My sister has confirmed that the form we filled bears the hallmarks of a Landing form, albeit it was not given to us on the plane but when we went to the immigration officer's desk.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Do the non-EU have to fill out a form?