Issue with Letter from the University

[Noor]

Hi,

Im in UK right now and planning to switch to Tier 1 (General).

To satisfy the attribute for English Language, I have requested for a letter from my universtiy, stating that the Master’s degree was taught in English language.
I have recieved the letter with the authorized signature, but it does not have a university seal on that.

Is that OK, or do I need to get another letter from the university with stamp?

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks,
Noor

[push]

Hi,

Im in UK right now and planning to switch to Tier 1 (General).

To satisfy the attribute for English Language, I have requested for a letter from my universtiy, stating that the Master’s degree was taught in English language.
I have recieved the letter with the authorized signature, but it does not have a university seal on that.

Is that OK, or do I need to get another letter from the university with stamp?

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks,
Noor

I dont think such letters are acceptable. Read the guidance carefully - In additiona to saying that the course was taught in English you have to prove that it was equivalent to sertain EU standards.

Check the points calculator. if it awards you 10 points under the English language criteria you dont need to submit anything else apart fromthe degree.

[ChetanOjha]

Hi,

Im in UK right now and planning to switch to Tier 1 (General).

To satisfy the attribute for English Language, I have requested for a letter from my universtiy, stating that the Master’s degree was taught in English language.
I have recieved the letter with the authorized signature, but it does not have a university seal on that.

Is that OK, or do I need to get another letter from the university with stamp?

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks,
Noor

Agree with Push here. In good old HSMP days, such letters were accepted(even I used myself for my initial HSMP application).But nowadays you need a letter which specifically states that degree is taugh to a competent standard of English equivalent to level C1 on the Council of Europe’s Common European Framework of Reference for Languages: Learning, Teaching, Assessment (CEFR). (Point 192, Page 33 Guidance notes)

[Nona]

Hi,

Im in UK right now and planning to switch to Tier 1 (General).

To satisfy the attribute for English Language, I have requested for a letter from my universtiy, stating that the Master’s degree was taught in English language.
I have recieved the letter with the authorized signature, but it does not have a university seal on that.

Is that OK, or do I need to get another letter from the university with stamp?

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks,
Noor

I dont think such letters are acceptable. Read the guidance carefully - In additiona to saying that the course was taught in English you have to prove that it was equivalent to sertain EU standards.

Check the points calculator. if it awards you 10 points under the English language criteria you dont need to submit anything else apart fromthe degree.

For further clarity....
You are both emphasizing on clause 189 - Degree must be recognised by UK NARIC as equivalent to at least a UK Bachelor’s degree; and have been taught in English to a standard comparable to that of level C1 on the CEFR.

My Bachelor's' appearing on the calculator. Should I still have this C1 CEFR? I don't find other applicants who have done both. Hence checking again.

Nona

[ChetanOjha]

Hi,

Im in UK right now and planning to switch to Tier 1 (General).

To satisfy the attribute for English Language, I have requested for a letter from my universtiy, stating that the Master’s degree was taught in English language.
I have recieved the letter with the authorized signature, but it does not have a university seal on that.

Is that OK, or do I need to get another letter from the university with stamp?

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks,
Noor

I dont think such letters are acceptable. Read the guidance carefully - In additiona to saying that the course was taught in English you have to prove that it was equivalent to sertain EU standards.

Check the points calculator. if it awards you 10 points under the English language criteria you dont need to submit anything else apart fromthe degree.

For further clarity....
You are both emphasizing on clause 189 - Degree must be recognised by UK NARIC as equivalent to at least a UK Bachelor’s degree; and have been taught in English to a standard comparable to that of level C1 on the CEFR.

My Bachelor's' appearing on the calculator. Should I still have this C1 CEFR? I don't find other applicants who have done both. Hence checking again.

Nona

You can use your Bachelor's for English Language points but for Qualification you need master degree.

[email257525]

Hi

Page 33 point 190 states that

Where the degree was taken in a majority English speaking country, listed below, we will assume it to have been taught in English:

I have MBA degree From British University studied in UK, Do i still need to get letter from University stating that it was taught in English?

[push]

Hi

Page 33 point 190 states that

Where the degree was taken in a majority English speaking country, listed below, we will assume it to have been taught in English:

I have MBA degree From British University studied in UK, Do i still need to get letter from University stating that it was taught in English?

Nope

[Nona]

Hi,

Im in UK right now and planning to switch to Tier 1 (General).

To satisfy the attribute for English Language, I have requested for a letter from my universtiy, stating that the Master’s degree was taught in English language.
I have recieved the letter with the authorized signature, but it does not have a university seal on that.

Is that OK, or do I need to get another letter from the university with stamp?

Please reply ASAP.

Thanks,
Noor

I dont think such letters are acceptable. Read the guidance carefully - In additiona to saying that the course was taught in English you have to prove that it was equivalent to sertain EU standards.

Check the points calculator. if it awards you 10 points under the English language criteria you dont need to submit anything else apart fromthe degree.

For further clarity....
You are both emphasizing on clause 189 - Degree must be recognised by UK NARIC as equivalent to at least a UK Bachelor’s degree; and have been taught in English to a standard comparable to that of level C1 on the CEFR.

My Bachelor's' appearing on the calculator. Should I still have this C1 CEFR? I don't find other applicants who have done both. Hence checking again.

Nona

You can use your Bachelor's for English Language points but for Qualification you need master degree.

I don't require C1 then. Ok thanks chetanojha.

[push]

If the points calculator awards you 10 points for your degree then you do not have to provide any letter/ certification etc. The original degree itself would suffice.

[jitendar]

I dont think such letters are acceptable. Read the guidance carefully - In additiona to saying that the course was taught in English you have to prove that it was equivalent to sertain EU standards.

Check the points calculator. if it awards you 10 points under the English language criteria you dont need to submit anything else apart fromthe degree.

For further clarity....
You are both emphasizing on clause 189 - Degree must be recognised by UK NARIC as equivalent to at least a UK Bachelor’s degree; and have been taught in English to a standard comparable to that of level C1 on the CEFR.

My Bachelor's' appearing on the calculator. Should I still have this C1 CEFR? I don't find other applicants who have done both. Hence checking again.

Nona

You can use your Bachelor's for English Language points but for Qualification you need master degree.

I don't require C1 then. Ok thanks chetanojha.

There is 'NO' indication that bachelors English language will be considered for points. Complete document refers to 'the degree' and 'the degree' being taught in English. And in case of Tier 1, masters is the reference degree. I would suggest that if there is a way to get certification for masters try your level best for it.

[push]

There is 'NO' indication that bachelors English language will be considered for points. Complete document refers to 'the degree' and 'the degree' being taught in English. And in case of Tier 1, masters is the reference degree. I would suggest that if there is a way to get certification for masters try your level best for it.

Thats not correct. Read the guidance notes carefully. See the following from Para 188

Degree taught in EnglishAn applicant may provide evidence that he/she holds a degree which is equivalent to United Kingdom Bachelors level or higher and which was taught or researched in English to a particular level as evidence of his/her English language ability.

[Noor]

Hi All,

Thanks for the wonderful reply’s, I could not see them till today as I was not well. By the way, by seeing all your comments, I came to a conclusion, want you guys to confirm on that.

Letter from the university is there, which according to you guys is not required.

Apart from that, I requested for Certificate of Comparability from NARIC for my Master’s Degree. And I have received the letter from NARIC, stating that my Master’s degree is equivalent to the Master’s Degree in UK.

And I have selected this Master’s degree for claiming points for English language.

As I got the letter from NARIC, would it suffice along with the English language certificate from the university for claiming points for English language.

Please respond, as I am applying for Tier 1 tomorrow morning

Thanks one and all

[rizwan567]

I think you still have not learnt from the replies from other experienced members and asking the same question again.

Use UKBA points calculator, If your masters degree gives you points for English language and education section then thats it. You do not need anything else no letter from Uni, no letter from NARIC.

If your degree is not listed in UKBA points calculator then you need to get a letter from NARIC.

[mvent00]

I think it is not right.

NARIC letter will not fulfil English language requirement. It is just a comparison with UK education equivalence. For ENGLISH language criteria there are only two options:

1-If PBS calculator approves that your degree can claim points for English language, then you are good to go.

2- If PBS calculator does not approve, then you have to take a specified exam to claim English language points.

There is no other way out, please see below:

Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance pages 33, 34 of 49

Checking qualifications

193. An applicant should check his/her degree by referring to the points based calculator on our website at: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/pointscalculator

194. Where the points based calculator is unable to confirm these details, points will not be awarded for the qualification in question.

195. Where the applicant is unable to find details of their qualification on the points based calculator, UK NARIC will not be able to verify whether a qualification satisfies the English Language requirement. In these circumstances, applicants should either present an alternative qualification from the points based calculator if they possess one, or select an alternative means of satisfying the English Language requirement.

I think you still have not learnt from the replies from other experienced members and asking the same question again.

Use UKBA points calculator, If your masters degree gives you points for English language and education section then thats it. You do not need anything else no letter from Uni, no letter from NARIC.

If your degree is not listed in UKBA points calculator then you need to get a letter from NARIC.

[Noor]

Thanks Rizwan and Mvent00,

Its true, the question was posted agian, but when confused , no other option, my aplogies.

I have selected my university, and master's degree (as my degree was not availble in pbs), it accepted the same for english lanugage, while running the pbs.

As my degree is not avialble in pbs, I got a NARIC letter.