Citizenship rule not changed for HSMP !!!!!

sanjana · Post by **sanjana** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:20 pm

Hi friends,
i received reply to my objection for path to citizenship bill from Mr. Woolas, the immigration minister.

It says those who obtain ILR before the commencement of new rule before july 2011, will be eligible to apply for citizenship with a grace period of two years ( i.e July 2013) from july 2011.

He also stated " THOSE MIGRANT WHO ENETERED ON HIGHLY SKILLED MIGRANT PROGRAMME WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO APPLY UNDER THE SYSTEM AS IT WAS THEN WHEN THEY APPLIED TO THE PROGRAMME"

So it does says immunity for HSMPians but i dont know what happens if some one needs to apply for citizenship after JUly 2013 whose initial leave to remain is under HSMP.

Your thoughts welcome.
Thanks

Sanjana[/b]

Hope2007 · Post by **Hope2007** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:15 pm

interesting...could you post the reply if it was an email reply. any idea, how would the new BC Changes affect hsmp dependants ?

nionlight · Post by **nionlight** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:48 pm

sanjana wrote:Hi friends,
i received reply to my objection for path to citizenship bill from Mr. Woolas, the immigration minister.

It says those who obtain ILR before the commencement of new rule before july 2011, will be eligible to apply for citizenship with a grace period of two years ( i.e July 2013) from july 2011.
He also stated " THOSE MIGRANT WHO ENETERED ON HIGHLY SKILLED MIGRANT PROGRAMME WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO APPLY UNDER THE SYSTEM AS IT WAS THEN WHEN THEY APPLIED TO THE PROGRAMME"

So it does says immunity for HSMPians but i dont know what happens if some one needs to apply for citizenship after JUly 2013 whose initial leave to remain is under HSMP.

Your thoughts welcome.
Thanks

Sanjana[/b]

so does it mean if some one in HSMP, for example my case, i entered UK on HSMP end of 2007. so i will not have ILR untill end of 2012. so will i still be able to qualify under old rule? or as it says ILR has to be before july 2011 to qualify for old rule?

confusedhsmp · Post by **confusedhsmp** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:59 pm

1. Post a copy of full reply from the minister on the board.

2. Keep a copy so that we can use it against the new minister we might have then.

Post by **push** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:04 pm

sanjana wrote:Hi friends,
i received reply to my objection for path to citizenship bill from Mr. Woolas, the immigration minister.

It says those who obtain ILR before the commencement of new rule before july 2011, will be eligible to apply for citizenship with a grace period of two years ( i.e July 2013) from july 2011.

He also stated " THOSE MIGRANT WHO ENETERED ON HIGHLY SKILLED MIGRANT PROGRAMME WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO APPLY UNDER THE SYSTEM AS IT WAS THEN WHEN THEY APPLIED TO THE PROGRAMME"

So it does says immunity for HSMPians but i dont know what happens if some one needs to apply for citizenship after JUly 2013 whose initial leave to remain is under HSMP.

Your thoughts welcome.
Thanks

Sanjana[/b]

Please email your original email and his response. Based on what you have quoted above, I think what Mr. Woolas means is that HSMP applicants too would be eligible to apply for citizenship by July 2013 (including 2 year grace period) if they got ILR by July 2011. Nothing new in it - thats how the current bill reads.

nionlight · Post by **nionlight** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:30 pm

why Home office chose 2011? whom they are covering? atleast they should set the rule so that all HSMP holders who are already in UK are covered by OLD rule as they were promised. why this random 2011? where some one will be covered and some wont? its redicilous...

srirags · Post by **srirags** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:44 pm

even I'm not clear about this july 2011 calculation...can anyone throw some light on it pls.?

djb123 · Post by **djb123** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:51 pm

srirags wrote:even I'm not clear about this july 2011 calculation...can anyone throw some light on it pls.?

Might be wrong, but I thought it was july 2011 because the new rules became law in july 2009 so it give the BIA 2 years to sort out the new processes.

srirags · Post by **srirags** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:14 pm

i strongly feel the govt. will not make another mistake similar to what happned in hsmp jr.

if they bring this rule all of a sudden in july 2011 without covering those who enterd under hsmp rule, then I see its going to be a failure?

rizwan567 · Post by **rizwan567** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:08 am

I think before commenting further on this post we need to see 'original email' and 'response' from the minister. As this could purely be another rumor..

nionlight · Post by **nionlight** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:42 pm

srirags wrote:i strongly feel the govt. will not make another mistake similar to what happned in hsmp jr.

if they bring this rule all of a sudden in july 2011 without covering those who enterd under hsmp rule, then I see its going to be a failure?

i really hope HO will not break promises as usual

.. even though i dont trust them a single bit.

but unfortunately this new law has been passed in the parlament with royal ascent or whatever it is. so may be high court will not go against a decision that is made in parlament. lets see what happens...

Post by **push** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:08 pm

Read the comprehensive post under another sub forum. The date July 2011 was announced during the discussion on the Bill. Lets see what the final act and rules say.

sanjana · Post by **sanjana** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:52 pm

Hi there,
sorry in delayed reply as busy at work. I got 4 pages reply from minister its a not an email unfortunately. Bit lenghthy to type. Sorry. But will try to type paragraph over the weekend.

Sanjana

engrmbk · Post by **engrmbk** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:02 pm

Hi Sanjana, thanks for letting us know. did you contact Mr Woola directly or through your MP. It would be good if can have scanned copy of that letter of course omitting your personal details.

Many thanks.

Radtw78 · Post by **Radtw78** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:58 pm

sanjana wrote:Hi there,
sorry in delayed reply as busy at work. I got 4 pages reply from minister its a not an email unfortunately. Bit lenghthy to type. Sorry. But will try to type paragraph over the weekend.

Sanjana

Hello.
Will you have time to type the content of the letter any time soon?
Thanks.

wphsmpteir1 · Post by **wphsmpteir1** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:44 pm

It would be really helpful to see what he says, yes please keep a copy just incase for new MP.

sanjana · Post by **sanjana** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:14 pm

Push ( Moderator),
could you forward me your email id i can send the scanned copy to you.
Thanks

Sanjana

Post by **push** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:23 am

sanjana wrote:Push ( Moderator),
could you forward me your email id i can send the scanned copy to you.
Thanks

Sanjana

Have sent you a PM

hsmp2010 · Post by **hsmp2010** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:08 am

cud u plz tell us reply of minister

Radtw78 · Post by **Radtw78** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:03 pm

sanjana wrote:Push ( Moderator),
could you forward me your email id i can send the scanned copy to you.
Thanks

Sanjana

Can you consider to send a email copy to HSMP Forum Ltd. as well?
The more people retaining this evidence, the less chance government can deny later.

hsmp2010 · Post by **hsmp2010** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:07 pm

push if u have recieved email from Sanjana cud u plz give us highlights of that reply.

Smart22 · Post by **Smart22** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:19 pm

Can somebody give more details from Phil Woolas reply?

Spear · Post by **Spear** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:41 pm

This thread / alleged letter from Phil Woolas sounds very dodgy to me. This has been going on for 2 weeks now and there is no evidence, just a lot of playing with words / postponing from the original poster.
How hard / time consuming could it be to type a few lines ? Think about it.
I hope I am proved wrong but I think someone is having some fun / playing with peoples hopes, at the expense of honest hardworking HSMP migrants.

hsmp2010 · Post by **hsmp2010** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:16 pm

I agree with u spear. someone who have received letter , cant type even some words from it or summary in just 3,4 lines isnt it?

Hope2007 · Post by **Hope2007** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:45 pm

May be Phil Woolas had told her to keep it in the dark place....sounds pretty rubbish...i had lost my faith ages ago on this thread...

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