Schengan tourist visa rejected impact on Tier 1 dependant ap

[hiteshdargan]

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

[gotcha]

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

Is it incountry application ?

I don't remember need to fill anything about visa rejections in in-country applications. I'm not sure about out-of country applications.
But, I think you need to mention about old passports. And need to provide one , if it's been used for iniital entry in UK.

[nksg]

Not sure where you plan to apply from (incountry or out) but if there is a section on the form which asks you "Have you ever been refused any other country's visa" better answer yes. I have seen some cases on the forums where the visa was rejected by not declaring under deception.

on the contrary i personally know some people who got UK T1 after rejection from some other country as they did declare it on the application form.

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

[mvent00]

Yes, they ask for it, and it is better to declare it. You should explain why it was rejected.

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/ ... 03073/vaf9
6.3 Have you ever been refused a visa for any country including the UK?
If ‘Yes’ please provide details below:

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

Is it incountry application ?

I don't remember need to fill anything about visa rejections in in-country applications. I'm not sure about out-of country applications.
But, I think you need to mention about old passports. And need to provide one , if it's been used for iniital entry in UK.

[hiteshdargan]

Yes, they ask for it, and it is better to declare it. You should explain why it was rejected.

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/ ... 03073/vaf9
6.3 Have you ever been refused a visa for any country including the UK?
If ‘Yes’ please provide details below:

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

Is it incountry application ?

I don't remember need to fill anything about visa rejections in in-country applications. I'm not sure about out-of country applications.
But, I think you need to mention about old passports. And need to provide one , if it's been used for iniital entry in UK.

The problem here is that ,I have no clue why it was rejected. This was before marriage.

I am applying from India. This stamp is on her old passport which was in her name before marriage. The passport also stands cancelled, as a new passport has been issued in her new name post marriage.

If I declare this in my application and mention that since this is a 7 yr old case, the details are not available. Will it work ?

[hiteshdargan]

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

Is it incountry application ?

I don't remember need to fill anything about visa rejections in in-country applications. I'm not sure about out-of country applications.
But, I think you need to mention about old passports. And need to provide one , if it's been used for iniital entry in UK.

Hi

I am applying from India. The old passport has not been used for initial entry in UK, do i still need to provide the same to VFS

[gotcha]

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

Is it incountry application ?

I don't remember need to fill anything about visa rejections in in-country applications. I'm not sure about out-of country applications.
But, I think you need to mention about old passports. And need to provide one , if it's been used for iniital entry in UK.

Hi

I am applying from India. The old passport has not been used for initial entry in UK, do i still need to provide the same to VFS

I've not seen form for EC, but, if it mentioned in it, then yes.

About visa rejection, yes, definitely you need to mention it. And don't worry, it doesn't affect out come.

[hiteshdargan]

Yes, they ask for it, and it is better to declare it. You should explain why it was rejected.

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/ ... 03073/vaf9
6.3 Have you ever been refused a visa for any country including the UK?
If ‘Yes’ please provide details below:

Hi

My wife had applied for a schengan visa 7 yrs back ( before our marriage)

Her old passport in her maiden name has a stamo which mentions the date of applying for the visa but it does not mention that visa has been refused or rejected.

Now she has a new passport, which mentions the number of the old passport.

Do i need to submit the old passport as well. It has been stamped cancelled by the passport office, new delhi and returned to us

Should I mention anything about this stamp in the dependant application, I do not have details about this stamp like reference no. or any letter from the embassy

Is it incountry application ?

I don't remember need to fill anything about visa rejections in in-country applications. I'm not sure about out-of country applications.
But, I think you need to mention about old passports. And need to provide one , if it's been used for iniital entry in UK.

Hi

The stamp is a rectangle which says the following
Schengen Visa Applied for on 31.7.02
NOR New Delhi
Type _________

Is this a rejection stamp ?

[mvent00]

It is strange that you do not know why that visa was rejected. Normally when a tourist visa is rejected, they give a reason, such as lack of funds, etc. You can call them and ask about giving details that why it was rejected? You must provide the details about its rejection in the application form, otherwise it will make the application doubtful.

The problem here is that ,I have no clue why it was rejected. This was before marriage.
I am applying from India. This stamp is on her old passport which was in her name before marriage. The passport also stands cancelled, as a new passport has been issued in her new name post marriage.
If I declare this in my application and mention that since this is a 7 yr old case, the details are not available. Will it work ?

[86ti]

It is strange that you do not know why that visa was rejected. Normally when a tourist visa is rejected, they give a reason, such as lack of funds, etc. You can call them and ask about giving details that why it was rejected?

No. Schengen states do not need to give a reason for rejection unless their national law says so.

[hiteshdargan]

It is strange that you do not know why that visa was rejected. Normally when a tourist visa is rejected, they give a reason, such as lack of funds, etc. You can call them and ask about giving details that why it was rejected?

No. Schengen states do not need to give a reason for rejection unless their national law says so.

As a next step. I will go to the norway embassy and find out the reason for the rejection and whatever they tell me, I will mention the same in the additional information while applying for dependant visa.

Will update once I have done this

Thanks for all the help

[mvent00]

No. Schengen states do not need to give a reason for rejection unless their national law says so.

I am sorry, but I think mostly they do, including Norway, and give the right to appeal.

[hiteshdargan]

No. Schengen states do not need to give a reason for rejection unless their national law says so.

I am sorry, but I think mostly they do, including Norway, and give the right to appeal.

Do they give a written reason for rejection or is it verbal.

Will they still have the record as to why the visa request was rejected

[hiteshdargan]

Hi

It would be really helpful, if you could help with another query in the following thread

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=44453

[mvent00]

No. Schengen states do not need to give a reason for rejection unless their national law says so.

I am sorry, but I think mostly they do, including Norway, and give the right to appeal.

Do they give a written reason for rejection or is it verbal.
As per my knowledge it is verbal, but if applicant wants in written, he/she has to ask for it in person. You can call/email them about it.

Will they still have the record as to why the visa request was rejected
They keep record.

[LankanFunkin]

Has your wife been able to get a new schengen visa since that rejection? If so, you can answer "No".

I was declined a visa as there was a dispute as to which country would be my "main destination" in a multiple destination trip. So I went to the other embassy and got a visa approved by them. When it came to my HSMP-->Tier 1 app, I mentioned this to my agent who was making the application on my behalf. Since I had received a new schengen visa after the rejection, he said that it was fine to answer "No".

[LankanFunkin]

Has your wife been able to get a new schengen visa since that rejection? If so, you can answer "No".

I was declined a visa as there was a dispute as to which country would be my "main destination" in a multiple destination trip. So I went to the other embassy and got a visa approved by them. When it came to my HSMP-->Tier 1 app, I mentioned this to my agent who was making the application on my behalf. Since I had received a new schengen visa after the rejection, he said that it was fine to answer "No".

[86ti]

No. Schengen states do not need to give a reason for rejection unless their national law says so.

I am sorry, but I think mostly they do, including Norway, and give the right to appeal.

I think all I said was that according to V.2.4 of the Common Consular Instructions giving reason for refusal and a possible right of appeal is left to the legislation of each member state. If Norway does so then obviously good for the OP.