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1. Not true really, think single parents.mochyn wrote:1. a son needs his father and you need to work out what is best for him.
2. If you carry on living in this country without permission you will have to be very circumspect in everything you do.The risk if you are caught is possibly a 10 year exclusion from the UK
3. If you go back to Nigeria now and apply for a visa then it will not affect your son too much although it will be painful for you.
4. If you went back to Nigeria in five years time then it would be harmful to the childs progress
5. If you were all to travel to Nigeria then your wife and child being present when you apply for your visa may well tug the heartstrings of the ECM
6. No easy way out of this dilemma
So single parents are inferior?stmellon wrote:Wanderer wrote:1. Not true really, think single parents.mochyn wrote:1. a son needs his father and you need to work out what is best for him.
I'm thinking single parents, and I'm thinking mochyn has got it entirely correct.
For once, I find someone thinking straight!mochyn wrote:I don't mean to infer that single parents are inferior.
The point I was trying to make is that for a balanced upbringing the child needs a father and a mother both contributing to his growing needs.
A child deprived of his father for whatever reason be it imprisonment, working abroad may not have the stability it needs
I really dont understand what the guy that called himself wanderer was talking about. People like you should not be on this forum. I believe this forum is about sharing knowledge and experience and offer a genuine advise to those in need. Peolpe posted their personal problem and worries on a forum, expecting a good advice and if any, constructive criticism. People that are illegal are not happy to be in such conditions but some people find themselves in situations they cant help and looking for a way out, to live happily and contribute to a society in which they live.Wanderer wrote:So single parents are inferior?stmellon wrote:Wanderer wrote:1. Not true really, think single parents.mochyn wrote:1. a son needs his father and you need to work out what is best for him.
I'm thinking single parents, and I'm thinking mochyn has got it entirely correct.
If the OP was such a great dad maybe he should have thought about that before having a child whilst not having any legal status - really u folks all think - 'oh a kid, all transgressions are forgiven, stay in the UK' - we'll pick up the tab, if the OP is so concerned he should return home and apply in the proper manner making sacrifices like we've like we've all to do and I for one will welcome him if/when he does.
Skirting around the danger zone like this only prolongs the inevitable.
When my younger three where kids I worked away hardly saw them - I had to - I was a responsible parent, I provided. Now have we suffered being apart early on in their upbringing? Not really, it's just a bloody excuse.
This crap really grinds my shit.
Thanks for your encouragement and informed advice. That was exactly what my solicitor told me, and also my personal research. Its really sad how people mis informed other people on this forum or turn a general case to a personal thing.immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi
In your situation you can
1.Apply on human rights for DL for 3 years.Indeed you should refer Chikwamba and Baku case law in your application.But problem with this application is nobody can give time frame for this application.Second you can be refused without right of appeal as you have no legal right of stay.Third home office can give your deportation order..If you are lucky and home issue your deportation order then you have right of appeal and then in appeal you can win on human right.
2.Apply outside under rule 246.Less time consuming and easy route.Remember your overstay would not be problem due to home office concessions for this visa category.But you need contact order for this application.
You are welcome.If you have any other question dont hesitate to ask.HRY2005 wrote:Thanks for your encouragement and informed advice. That was exactly what my solicitor told me, and also my personal research. Its really sad how people mis informed other people on this forum or turn a general case to a personal thing.immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi
In your situation you can
1.Apply on human rights for DL for 3 years.Indeed you should refer Chikwamba and Baku case law in your application.But problem with this application is nobody can give time frame for this application.Second you can be refused without right of appeal as you have no legal right of stay.Third home office can give your deportation order..If you are lucky and home issue your deportation order then you have right of appeal and then in appeal you can win on human right.
2.Apply outside under rule 246.Less time consuming and easy route.Remember your overstay would not be problem due to home office concessions for this visa category.But you need contact order for this application.
My respect to those genuine people who give informed advice and critizise people constructively, thanks very much.
1. Not true really, think single parents.Wanderer wrote:mochyn wrote:1. a son needs his father and you need to work out what is best for him.
2. If you carry on living in this country without permission you will have to be very circumspect in everything you do.The risk if you are caught is possibly a 10 year exclusion from the UK
3. If you go back to Nigeria now and apply for a visa then it will not affect your son too much although it will be painful for you.
4. If you went back to Nigeria in five years time then it would be harmful to the childs progress
5. If you were all to travel to Nigeria then your wife and child being present when you apply for your visa may well tug the heartstrings of the ECM
6. No easy way out of this dilemma
Well hard to pick out the nuggets from all that insane rambling, but no, to most of them. But then again I didn't break the law and become a criminal by overstaying/entering illegally either.destiny20484 wrote:["wanderer "*****LET ME ASK YOU FEW QUESHIONS ABOUT YOU BCOZ I THINK YOU ARE TAKING THE PI**, :twisted: (1) :evil: WHY THE F****** HELL YOU ARE TELLING EVERYBODY TO LEAVE THE NEW BORN OR LEAVE THE KIDS HERE & GO BACK TO HOME COUNTRY (2) DO YOU OWN THIS COUNTRY ?( 3) DO YOU OWN THIS WEBSITE ?(4) DO YOU WORK FOR ANY TRAVEL COMPANY ?(5) R U MARRIED IF NO THEN HAVE YOU GOT GF? (6) HAVE YOU GOT KIDS ? (7) WOULD YOU DO THAT & LEAVE THE KIDS ?(8) DID YOU SPEND YOUR CHILDHOOD WITH YOUR DAD?.....YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR SELF IN THE SAME SHOES THEN TELL ANY BODY WHAT TO DO ....GIVE THE ANSWERS .....(.1) YES OR NO ? .....LIKE THIS OK ......
Wanderer with due respect op is asking for help not for a lecture on what is right or wrong in yours perspective.Wanderer wrote:Well hard to pick out the nuggets from all that insane rambling, but no, to most of them. But then again I didn't break the law and become a criminal by overstaying/entering illegally either.destiny20484 wrote:["wanderer "*****LET ME ASK YOU FEW QUESHIONS ABOUT YOU BCOZ I THINK YOU ARE TAKING THE PI**,(1)
WHY THE F****** HELL YOU ARE TELLING EVERYBODY TO LEAVE THE NEW BORN OR LEAVE THE KIDS HERE & GO BACK TO HOME COUNTRY (2) DO YOU OWN THIS COUNTRY ?( 3) DO YOU OWN THIS WEBSITE ?(4) DO YOU WORK FOR ANY TRAVEL COMPANY ?(5) R U MARRIED IF NO THEN HAVE YOU GOT GF? (6) HAVE YOU GOT KIDS ? (7) WOULD YOU DO THAT & LEAVE THE KIDS ?(8) DID YOU SPEND YOUR CHILDHOOD WITH YOUR DAD?.....YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR SELF IN THE SAME SHOES THEN TELL ANY BODY WHAT TO DO ....GIVE THE ANSWERS .....(.1) YES OR NO ? .....LIKE THIS OK ......
Some people don't like the hard truth, and you are one of them. If you wait long enough someone will give you the answer you want, God knows you've posted the same question enough times.
No comments.Sorry for language - watching 'In The Loop'!!
Mochyn is Welsh for Pig IIRC....****"wanderer "*****LET ME ASK YOU FEW QUESHIONS ABOUT YOU BCOZ I THINK YOU ARE TAKING THE PI**,(1)
WHY THE F****** HELL YOU ARE TELLING EVERYBODY TO LEAVE THE NEW BORN OR LEAVE THE KIDS HERE & GO BACK TO HOME COUNTRY (2) DO YOU OWN THIS COUNTRY ?( 3) DO YOU OWN THIS WEBSITE ?(4) DO YOU WORK FOR ANY TRAVEL COMPANY ?(5) R U MARRIED IF NO THEN HAVE YOU GOT GF? (6) HAVE YOU GOT KIDS ? (7) WOULD YOU DO THAT & LEAVE THE KIDS ?(8) DID YOU SPEND YOUR CHILDHOOD WITH YOUR DAD?.....YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR SELF IN THE SAME SHOES THEN TELL ANY BODY WHAT TO DO ....GIVE THE ANSWERS .....(.1) YES OR NO ? .....LIKE THIS OK ......