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Post by c4551m » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:00 pm

Hi Everyone
I need information regarding the Accommodation detail.
I am about to apply for dependent visa for my wife,As I am an International student, I rent a 3 bed property and is shared by friend who is student as well,so its 2 of us in 3 bed room property.As I got letter from my landlord stating that he has no objection if my wife comes in the property.Now my questions are :

Do I have to show a single tenancy agreement form with my name & my friends name on or shall I show seperate tenency agreement.
Do I need a council survey letter that the property is not over crowded.
I have got the Council tax letter from the college,do i have to register it with the coucil ,I dont know if landlord is paying council tax or not ,what will be better for me to do ?
Do I need a letter from my friend as well that he has no issue if my wife comes in the property

As there is ample of space in the property,kindly help me in this issue and what will be better for me to show,

Thnks every 1 in advance

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Post by ElenaW » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:24 pm

It would probably be best to have a tenancy agreement in your name. I was told that you can just take photos of the inside of the property and write down the room measurements.

If you're a full time student you don't need to pay council tax and if you have a letter stating that you're exempt from paying it, I think you don't need to do anything further.

I'm pretty sure the letter from your friend is not requird but it wouldn't harm your application if he/she did write one.
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Post by c4551m » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:21 pm

Thnks for your reply,
So its not important to have council report,will that effect the application?
Thnks

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Post by ElenaW » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:44 pm

c4551m wrote:Thnks for your reply,
So its not important to have council report,will that effect the application?
Thnks
In my oppinion I think that the report would be unneccessary, but I'm not a professional.
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Post by andyb123 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:12 pm

boulevardofbrokendreams wrote:
c4551m wrote:Thnks for your reply,
So its not important to have council report,will that effect the application?
Thnks
In my oppinion I think that the report would be unneccessary, but I'm not a professional.
I've seen information online that a "housing inspection for entry clearance" is the only definitive "proof" that the ECO will accept... my council did this for free so it's not worth taking the risk on not doing it

you don't need to show a tenancy agreement in only your name, if the one you have is joint with your friend that is fine (or even if it is in only his name that's fine too, if you include a letter from him stating that you live with him and that he's also inviting your wife to stay in the house).

You will need some kind of utility bill, or a letter from a government department (such as from HM Revenue and Customs - if you're paying tax you can call and ask for a coding notice)

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Post by c4551m » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:58 pm

Thnks andyb123
well my council is charging 110 pounds,
I have my landline bills on my name as proof of address, and you are right no point of taking risk better I shall go for council inspection.
thnks every 1

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Post by batleykhan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:08 pm

I have been watching this post for some time, so I will add my two penneth here.

My concerns here would be that I have just dealt with 3 people who were refused on the grounds that they were "sharing the accomadation with their friends".

The ECO argued as the tennancy agreement was on their friends name, there was a possibility that the applicants could be kicked out at any time by the tennancy holder, and therefore was not satisfied that the applicant had suitable accomadation. I agreed with the ECO.

Accomadation solely used by the applicant or even shared with his own personal family stands a better chance of succeeding than it would with friends because its more secure.

My advise to OP would be not to rely on his friends tennancy agreement and even the words of his friend or landlord that his wife can stay and share the house. I am afraid empty gestures are not accepted.

As to whether the OP needs a housing report or not, I am of the opinion that he doesnt solely becuase of the above reason. If teh ECO is not prepared to accept what I have stated above first, then paying for and doing a housing report is a waste of money.

My advice to OP would be have the tennancy agreement in his own name rather tahn his friends. Alternatively seek accomadation of his own which is secured. If he does this then he would not need a housing report.

This report is only required when one is sharing accomadation with his own family and there are about 5-6 people in the same house. It is not normally required if there was just husnabd and wife sharing as the chances of it being overcrowded would be nil.

One can do the housing report themselves by taking photograpghs of teh house and its room and give the measurements with it. That should suffice.

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Post by ElenaW » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:20 pm

wow very useful information Batley. What exactly is considered sharing? For example if students live in a house consisting of lets say 4 self contained flats, would this still be considered a shared student house?
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Post by batleykhan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:16 pm

wow very useful information Batley. What exactly is considered sharing? For example if students live in a house consisting of lets say 4 self contained flats, would this still be considered a shared student house?
In my opinion it would be where at least 2 or more unrelated people live under the same roof but share the bathroom(s) even though they may have their own rooms. I would class that as sharing.

However if the same property has has self contained flats in it and each flat has its own bathroom, then it would not be considered as shared even though it is under one roof and may have one front door.

Getting back to the OP , what if he suddenly falls out with the friend he is sharing ( which does occasionally happen when a third person joins in, )?.

If his name is not on the tennancy agreement, he doesnt have a leg to stand on if his friend wants him out. This is what teh ECO dreads and he has to take into consideration when someone says they are sharing with friends.

I forgot to mention in my last post that if both he and his friends were to have the tennancy agreemnt in both their name, that would also suffice

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Post by ElenaW » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:36 pm

Yeah I completely agree with Batley, the tenancy agreement needs to have your name on it to give you rights and protection in your rented flat. I would make sure my name were on it even if there was no visa to apply for, it's just the safer thing to do, I think.
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Post by c4551m » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:35 pm

Thnks batleykhan for the detailed information

Well the tenancy agreement is on my name and I rented out one of the room to my friend.As its 3 bed property , I have 2 rooms for my use. So what would you suggest me to do now. Me getting abit confused.
and whats land registry ?

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Post by batleykhan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:28 pm

Well the tenancy agreement is on my name and I rented out one of the room to my friend.As its 3 bed property , I have 2 rooms for my use. So what would you suggest me to do now. Me getting abit confused.
and whats land registry ?
Ok.

The tennancy agreement is in your name..... Thats good.

Is it an Assured Shorthold Tennancy agreement. If it is thats good.

How long is the Agreement for ?( normally above are 6 months plus).

When you send it as part of your wifes application make sure there at least 4+months of agreement left, otherwise if its a short period,the visa could be refused.

Forget the bit about land registry, it doesnt apply to you.

How do you pay your rent?. You will need to provide evidence that your rent is upto date. This could be rent book or a letter from landlord confirming payments are upto date.

As far as the Accomadation/Overcrowding report is concerened, if you want one, then do it yourself rather than paying over £150.

Take photo of all house and each room in it (tidy and clean it up first), particularly the front door with number on it as this will prove that it is the house where you live ( amd not the 6 bed mansion down the road).Write the measurement of each room on the photo. Hopefully the photo will show it as being habitable and has cookinfg facilities and tiolet and bathroom which are are essential requirement).

This should be enough for you. Hope that answers your question.
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Post by immigrationuk2009 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:43 pm

Let me summaries this for you.

Accommodation documents:

1.Landlord permission letter

2.Property Inspection report. i.You can get from your local council or you can contact some estate agent for upto 50 pounds.But I would advice must include this as for evidence property is good for accommodation.


3.Council Tax Bill...If you are students then visit your council with your college letter.they would send you council tax bill in 2 weeks times.

4.If you have election electrol then add this as well

5.Tenancy agreement.On single name is better.If on joint name then add letter from other person as well saying he has no objection.

6.If you have utility bills then add these as well.

7.Take whole house pictures and include with your application.


Hope answer your question

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Post by c4551m » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:19 am

Thanks alot Batleykhan & Immigrationuk for the information,

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Post by ca4nul » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:22 pm

immigrationuk2009 wrote:Let me summaries this for you.

Accommodation documents:

1.Landlord permission letter

2.Property Inspection report. i.You can get from your local council or you can contact some estate agent for upto 50 pounds.But I would advice must include this as for evidence property is good for accommodation.


3.Council Tax Bill...If you are students then visit your council with your college letter.they would send you council tax bill in 2 weeks times.

4.If you have election electrol then add this as well

5.Tenancy agreement.On single name is better.If on joint name then add letter from other person as well saying he has no objection.

6.If you have utility bills then add these as well.

7.Take whole house pictures and include with your application.


Hope answer your question
HI immigrationuk2009

i'm reading this post. i'm also planning to apply my wife's visa as WP-Dependent. is these are same accommodation proofs that i needed?

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Post by immigrationuk2009 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:42 pm

ca4nul wrote:
immigrationuk2009 wrote:Let me summaries this for you.

Accommodation documents:

1.Landlord permission letter

2.Property Inspection report. i.You can get from your local council or you can contact some estate agent for upto 50 pounds.But I would advice must include this as for evidence property is good for accommodation.


3.Council Tax Bill...If you are students then visit your council with your college letter.they would send you council tax bill in 2 weeks times.

4.If you have election electrol then add this as well

5.Tenancy agreement.On single name is better.If on joint name then add letter from other person as well saying he has no objection.

6.If you have utility bills then add these as well.

7.Take whole house pictures and include with your application.


Hope answer your question
HI immigrationuk2009

i'm reading this post. i'm also planning to apply my wife's visa as WP-Dependent. is these are same accommodation proofs that i needed?

If your accommodation is not arranged by your employer and you have rented privately.Then yes you need nearly same proofs

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