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You're the family member of an EU national (not of an Irish national), correct? If so, EU1 is indeed the form to be submitted to the Department of Justice. This wasn't the case since last week though, it's been the case since 2006. Perhaps the Garda got his wires crossed?Emc wrote:Hi all, i am soo happy, i ve got my EU family member visa D to Ireland and my hubby and I are in Dublin right now. Thanx to all for advise given.
We went to GNIB office to register me as told to at the border, but they said that one week ago the rules have been changed and i must apply for EU1 first, then when i get a letter back with our passports to come back and get a stamp at GNIB office.
If you're the family member of an EU national you can start work today if you wish.Emc wrote:Does it mean i will be able to work when i get a stamp??
Emc wrote:Hi all, i am soo happy, i ve got my EU family member visa D to Ireland and my hubby and I are in Dublin right now. Thanx to all for advise given.
We went to GNIB office to register me as told to at the border, but they said that one week ago the rules have been changed and i must apply for EU1 first, then when i get a letter back with our passports to come back and get a stamp at GNIB office. Does it mean i will be able to work when i get a stamp??
Hi Emc, Many thanks for your Information I have gone through the link you provided, its very informative.Emc wrote:Hi churri, if you are a spouse of EU citizen , then you will only need
--Application form
--Passport
--Clear copy of passport of EU citizen
--Marriage certificate
They might ask for a few more things, don't wory if the request is reasonble, i had to provide my husband's P45 to confirm that he has left his job in order to move to Ireland with me, they asked for a letter from his employer, but he had already quit.
Well, the embassy originaly told me that i can't apply for Visa D untill my husband moves to IE and finds a job-which is a lot of b...t!! Even the superviser of visa department has confirmed that he must have a job first!! Can you imagine??!! After long research and determination we have proved to Visa office that there is EU law and they have to follow it. However they replied that they only take instructions from INIS not from EU directive!! So then with God's help i stumbeled across the page on INIS http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000002, right side of the page you will see Documentation to accompany a Visa Application (Size 188KB), open that and find page 28 and it confirms the list of documents according to EU law. Add this infor to the letter or email with your application, they will have no option but to follow the law.
Best of luck !!
Hi Emc, Thank for your Observation, I thought as much that I shouldnt be needing a visa, but i have been getting lots of conflicting information, that i didnt know what to do next.... I wrote to the Irish embassey STATING MY LEGAL STATUS IN ANOTHER MEMBER STATE... Please read through the reply below from Irish embassey....Emc wrote:hi, it looks like you Do Not need a visa to travel to Ireland, since you have EU Fam card from another EU country. But since you have applied for visa any way, you should have selected the type of visa--Join spouse(EEU national) not a tourist option. By law you don't have to have the visa, you can just email the embassy and get them to confirm the fact, it will save you time and money translating all the documents. I have seen your other posts and the reply you have got from Ben is the best and most conclusive, just follow his advice, know your rights according to EU directive. Good luck!
madridembassy@dfa.ie to me
show details 4:34 PM (6 hours ago)
Good evening,
you have to go to the Irish Embassy website www.irlanda.es and there you will find the information you need to apply for a visa.
Regards
Emc wrote:hi, well, the thing is that by EU freedom of movement you Do Not need a visa to come to Ireland, the other matter is to prove that to irish immigration office/visa office. Mate, you will just have to be patient and email them your situation and the part of EU law where it mentions that you do not need visa, but be prepaired that they will come back with negative answer, just be polite and persistant with further evidence. I am afraid i am not the best person to point you in the right direction regarding evidence, but Ben on this forum is very helpfull and might have the right info to support your case. Best of luck !!
Emc wrote:Hi churri, if you are a spouse of EU citizen , then you will only need
--Application form
--Passport
--Clear copy of passport of EU citizen
--Marriage certificate
They might ask for a few more things, don't wory if the request is reasonble, i had to provide my husband's P45 to confirm that he has left his job in order to move to Ireland with me, they asked for a letter from his employer, but he had already quit.
Well, the embassy originaly told me that i can't apply for Visa D untill my husband moves to IE and finds a job-which is a lot of b...t!! Even the superviser of visa department has confirmed that he must have a job first!! Can you imagine??!! After long research and determination we have proved to Visa office that there is EU law and they have to follow it. However they replied that they only take instructions from INIS not from EU directive!! So then with God's help i stumbeled across the page on INIS http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000002, right side of the page you will see Documentation to accompany a Visa Application (Size 188KB), open that and find page 28 and it confirms the list of documents according to EU law. Add this infor to the letter or email with your application, they will have no option but to follow the law.
Best of luck !!
Emc wrote:Hi churri, if you are a spouse of EU citizen , then you will only need
--Application form
--Passport
--Clear copy of passport of EU citizen
--Marriage certificate
They might ask for a few more things, don't wory if the request is reasonble, i had to provide my husband's P45 to confirm that he has left his job in order to move to Ireland with me, they asked for a letter from his employer, but he had already quit.
Well, the embassy originaly told me that i can't apply for Visa D untill my husband moves to IE and finds a job-which is a lot of b...t!! Even the superviser of visa department has confirmed that he must have a job first!! Can you imagine??!! After long research and determination we have proved to Visa office that there is EU law and they have to follow it. However they replied that they only take instructions from INIS not from EU directive!! So then with God's help i stumbeled across the page on INIS http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000002, right side of the page you will see Documentation to accompany a Visa Application (Size 188KB), open that and find page 28 and it confirms the list of documents according to EU law. Add this infor to the letter or email with your application, they will have no option but to follow the law.
Best of luck !!
Emc wrote:hi, thank you. I am soo happy I ve got my EU1 now. I am sure you will get yours in time.
I totally understand your problem with the embassy. Just be strong and don't give up, as you can see from my previouse posts I went through hell to get my visa to Ireland too. Just be polite and send them an email and refer to http://www.inis.gov.ie/
Frequent Downloads- Documentation to accompany a Visa Application (Size 188KB) it is second up on the left bottom coner of the page. Then go to page 26 or 28 depending if you have EU4 from another EU state. just copy and paste into the email and explain where you have got it from-INIS, page so and so, ext. also you can attach info from EU directive on what is needed for EU family members to travel with their EU. I hav etried to find it online now, but could not. But you will see it on many links on this forum. Just be strait and say that by EU Freedom of movement you don't need to provide all those items and Irish INIS knows that so they should check thier guidlines better refer to INIS site page I gave you. Good luck
Polite and helpfulEmc wrote:HI again, sorry to hear that you get so much truble over visa. Why don't you just go with your wife to Ireland without visa, since you have EU4 card? I don't know what to say, the visa application is free, so maybe to apply and attach the infor that you don't have to provide bank statements and see what they say. They just can't refuse on the basis of no statement. There is one stabborn and stupid person at that embassy. maybe contacting and complaining to INIS will help too. It is just frustrating to see how EU family memebers being treated by officials who supposed to know their jobs well. Urgh.... The thing is INIS is actually very officient and staff polite and helpfull. They were in my case anyway, but embassy staff including the supervisours are absolutely useless. Good luck mate, please update us how it is going.
Emc wrote:HI again, sorry to hear that you get so much truble over visa. Why don't you just go with your wife to Ireland without visa, since you have EU4 card? I don't know what to say, the visa application is free, so maybe to apply and attach the infor that you don't have to provide bank statements and see what they say. They just can't refuse on the basis of no statement. There is one stabborn and stupid person at that embassy. maybe contacting and complaining to INIS will help too. It is just frustrating to see how EU family memebers being treated by officials who supposed to know their jobs well. Urgh.... The thing is INIS is actually very officient and staff polite and helpfull. They were in my case anyway, but embassy staff including the supervisours are absolutely useless. Good luck mate, please update us how it is going.
fatty patty wrote:Polite and helpfulEmc wrote:HI again, sorry to hear that you get so much truble over visa. Why don't you just go with your wife to Ireland without visa, since you have EU4 card? I don't know what to say, the visa application is free, so maybe to apply and attach the infor that you don't have to provide bank statements and see what they say. They just can't refuse on the basis of no statement. There is one stabborn and stupid person at that embassy. maybe contacting and complaining to INIS will help too. It is just frustrating to see how EU family memebers being treated by officials who supposed to know their jobs well. Urgh.... The thing is INIS is actually very officient and staff polite and helpfull. They were in my case anyway, but embassy staff including the supervisours are absolutely useless. Good luck mate, please update us how it is going.!!?? Is that Italian Naturalization & Immigration Services you are talking about or the Irish Naturalization & Immigration Services? Actually a friend of mine visited Dublin with her German spouse, they both live in London, she just turned up at the airport with the printout of that EU directive the airline obliged after few minutes of checking. Also hubbie/wife stayed in the same line at the Immigration queue @ the airport & didnt take too long for them to get out. But if you wanna be sure to be sure man get a visa as its going to be free for you anyway, its upto you.