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Your income would be assessed at its level at the time you applied. Basically you will need to show income at or above Income Support level for a couple, after you have paid rent and council tax. At the moment, that's around £105 a week.Cold wrote:For example, if I go to college for 4 years and get student debts by the time she can move over here, will my income be shunted too much to be enough for both of us to live on?
Depends on what your actual income would be without graduating: see above.If I skipped college and just worked, would that be enough to satisfy the "finacially stable" rules, even if it's a low paid job?
How much money would they expect me to have/earn monthly to satisfy the financially stable rules for her to stay here?
If you marry elsewhere and she applies as a spouse, she can work straight away. if she comes as a fiancée, then she can only work after you are married AND she has successfully applied for further leave to remain as a spouse.How long can she stay here after we get married before she can work? I hear different numbers, ranging from "immediately" to "two years" and can't seem to find a consensus.
Personally, I would go the route of marrying elsewhere and using the spouse route. The fiancée route involves an initial settlement application at £644, and then a further application inside the UK after the wedding to amend your wife's status to spouse. She can't work until she has spouse status.Would it be easier for us to marry here under a fiancee visa and change to spouse, or marry elsewhere and bring her here as a spouse? Again, I keep reading completely contradictory stories on this and can't figure out which ones would be easier.
So the plan would be :-The EEA rules are different? If we got married (where would be good/easy for us to get married, actually..?) and I got a job in Ireland or somethin', she would not only be able to work straight away, but come over here w/o waitin' till she's 21?
Treaty rights can also be exercised as a student.John wrote:So the plan would be :-The EEA rules are different? If we got married (where would be good/easy for us to get married, actually..?) and I got a job in Ireland or somethin', she would not only be able to work straight away, but come over here w/o waitin' till she's 21?
- get married
- you would start exercising EU Treaty Rights, in another country such as Ireland, and indeed exercising those Treaty Rights in an economic way .... employed or self-employed .... and your wife (as she would be) would have the right to also live in that country, and also have the same treaty Rights, including the ability to work.
- After you exercising those Treaty Rights for a while, your wife would applying for an EEA Family Permit, and once that is issued the two of you would move to the UK. That is the minimum age of 21 does not apply to EEA/EU applications.
Neither of us are top class students and we've spent the past six months lookin' at various ways to get student visas. They generally are looking for top-of-the-class students of current qualifications that she (hell, neither of us) have and would take probably longer for her to get the neccesary qualifications to come over and said student visa and only be able to stay temporarily. We're looking for a permanent and fast (as reasonably possible) solution.ElenaW wrote:What about the OP's girl friend coming over on a student visa? I know it's pricey but it's an option. Also, it would mean no need for relocation (which is really hard to do as well).
If she were to obtain one and keep studying until she turns 21, she can switch to flr(m) (spouse) so it would be permanent eventually.Cold wrote:
Neither of us are top class students and we've spent the past six months lookin' at various ways to get student visas. They generally are looking for top-of-the-class students of current qualifications that she (hell, neither of us) have and would take probably longer for her to get the neccesary qualifications to come over and said student visa and only be able to stay temporarily. We're looking for a permanent and fast (as reasonably possible) solution.
Not at all, I jus' worry about how likely it'll be for a relatively inexperienced student to grab a job in another country when they can easily hire locals. I won't be able to apply for anythin' that any local can't do and I'd have to worry about findin' a nearby flat as well, if I hoped to bring her here to stay w/ me.John wrote:So Cold, are you ruling out living and working in say Ireland for a few months?
Why? You don't need to have a Work Permit or anything like that. You have a right to live and work in any other EEA country. The work need not be too high-level, and could be the likes of McDonalds, or working in a bar in Spain, Greece etc..I won't be able to apply for anythin' that any local can't do
No, the minimum age of 21 does not apply to applications under the terms of the EU Directive.Although, "months?" Wouldn't we have to live/work there until we were both 21 and thusly eligible to bring her back to UK as a spouse?
Suggest you do a search on this Board, or indeed on the internet generally, searching for say .... Surinder Singh .... and have a read, and then you will have a better idea about these matters.Forgive me, I'm still not really sure about how this EEA thing works
I'll just pick up on this question. I suspect that there is no place that qualifies for everything in your list. And it depends on what you mean by cheap, given the two of you have probably got to travel to get to the same country.Where would be an easy, cheap place for us to get married? (I say easy as in terms of minimum paperwork required, no language barriers, minimum residency period, etc and definitely cheap as possible because...well....we're students who spend most of our money visitin' each other)
If your partner is from US be very careful getting married there, you must leave the US immediately after getting married. If you wanted to live together in the US then you would have to apply from UK after you return, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. I know this from experience, no matter what the US lawyers or INS tell you regarding adjustment of status from within the US it's a big no no, by the time your interview arrives you would have overstayed the Visa waiver if you enter that way. Hope that helps.Cold wrote:
Been lookin' at US and Canada mainly. Las Vegas is world-renown for bein' an easy city to get married in. Seems like an easy option, but the added cost of gettin' from Ohio to Las Vegas adds a few problems.
Neither of us want to stay in the US for any real length. We want to get married in the US so that we don't have to bring her to the UK to get married here in three years, jus' for her to have to leave to make applications and come back again, costin' an absolute fortune in plane tickets thta we really can't afford. We'd rather get married elsewhere so that we can bring her here as a spouse already; seems much easier that way, esp. if we can get her into Ireland sooner than 21.lonelyhusband wrote:
If your partner is from US be very careful getting married there, you must leave the US immediately after getting married. If you wanted to live together in the US then you would have to apply from UK after you return, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. I know this from experience, no matter what the US lawyers or INS tell you regarding adjustment of status from within the US it's a big no no, by the time your interview arrives you would have overstayed the Visa waiver if you enter that way. Hope that helps.